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Should baseball's Opening Day become a national holiday?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/should-major-league-baseballs-opening-day-become-a-national-holiday/

Budweiser sells a lot of beer during baseball season, and this week the company started a campaign with Hall of Fame shortstop Ozzie Smith to have Major League Baseball's Opening Day designated as an official national holiday. The idea produced an online petition that's going to the Obama White House.

Author of the popular "Don't Know Much About" history books, historian Kenneth C. Davis joined the "CBS This Morning: Saturday" co-hosts to discuss how a baseball day off might stack up against other major holidays.

He said the significance of federal holidays is that they are expensive and they shut the government down.

"Usually businesses also shut down, the markets and banks for instance," he said. "So it does have a cost to the economy. But that doesn't stop us from thinking about it might be a good day to take all the kids out to the ballpark so they don't have to play hooky."

According to Major League Baseball, more than 22 million people over the age of 21 have admitted to playing "hooky" to get out of work or other commitments to attend an Opening Day game. The Wall Street Journal released a poll saying 62.9 percent of people think having Opening Day as a holiday is a good idea, while 37.1 percent do not.

While many people may think having this petition approved is a longshot, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, which was the most recently added federal holiday, was a struggle to get signed into law.

"Holidays, going back to the very beginning, are not an ancient idea in America," said Davis. "They don't go back to the beginnings of history. Even though we think of the Fourth of July as the first holiday, it actually didn't become an official federal holiday until 1870, when they created the first four national holidays, including New Year's Day, Christmas and the Fourth of July and Thanksgiving."

He said that this occurred in 1870 because President Ulysses S. Grant thought it would be a good idea to have national holidays to bring the country together after the Civil War.

"An idea that these were days that all Americans could celebrate together," Davis said.

Originally, there was resistance to Thanksgiving being a national holiday.

"People resented it from the very beginning for this very idea of state government versus federal government. That's a very powerful idea," he said. "They didn't want George Washington to proclaim a Thanksgiving Day because they didn't think the president had the right to tell the states which days to take off."

Similarly, while Labor Day might seem inherently American, it also has an interesting backstory. Davis said this was another example "where a political group has a lot to say about the holiday."

"It was 1895. Labor groups were trying to get the government to help them," he said. "Instead troops were being used to put down strikes. So, kinda to throw a bone to the labor movement, Labor Day was created in September."

So far, the petition to make opening day a holiday has reached close to 70,000 signatures....that's just about 30,000 shy of the goal.

You can sign the petition here:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declare-major-league-baseball-opening-day-national-holiday/3XNmgfBb

Personally, I don't think it's a bad idea. Baseball has a very strong historical significance for the U.S....it is the national pass time. I also think it would do some good in getting kids more into sports and the outdoors vs. being inside, in front of the tv and video games. (And people wouldn't have to play "hooky" anymore, from work....or school, yes Ferris, that means you too.... :lol: )

What do you think?

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Guest Len B'stard

Yes, Americans work too hard as it is, you guys don't get no time off for shit. In schools you don't have half term, you have no bank holidays, even on Christmas I'm led to believe yous lot just get the one day off, right? Yeah, why not, give America an excuse to put its feet up a bit :)

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Yes, Americans work too hard as it is, you guys don't get no time off for shit. In schools you don't have half term, you have no bank holidays, even on Christmas I'm led to believe yous lot just get the one day off, right? Yeah, why not, give America an excuse to put its feet up a bit :)

We have holidays similar to bank holidays, it's just that we call them federal holidays. There is no guarantee that banks and other private institutions will give workers the day off (although most do), but all federal, state, and local governments have the day off on federal holidays.

There are also legal holidays, which most state and federal governments shut down for. They can vary from state to state and region to region. For example, in the Chicago area (due to our large Polish population) we have Casmir Pulaski day (which I think might even be a statewide holiday), whereas other states don't.

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Yeah, but even if you take those into account you got, what (now don't laugh here if i get some mixed up :lol:) Presidents day? Veterans day? MLK day? A handful like that, it still don't even up with the rest of the world.

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Yeah, but even if you take those into account you got, what (now don't laugh here if i get some mixed up :lol:) Presidents day? Veterans day? MLK day? A handful like that, it still don't even up with the rest of the world.

We still have quite a bit. Between legal and federal holidays, most people are off for New Year's Day, President's day (mainly schools and government workers) Martin Luther King Day, Memorial Day, Imdependence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.
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Memorial is like veterans right? Whats Labour Day about? The phrase 'Labour Day Weekend' sounds like something I've heard.

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Labor Day is literally a day to take off labor. A holiday dedicated to not working.

As far as us working too much, I agree to an extent. If you get a week's paid vacation from a job in addition to holidays that's considered pretty good for the year. Though for you Brits it's like 5 weeks a year isn't it?

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There was a similar petition in Cincinnati a few years ago, and city council ended up declaring it an official ceremonial holiday. Still have to play hooky, but a lot of businesses close for that day anyways. Wouldn't mind an official extra day off for it with a national holiday.

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Yes, Americans work too hard as it is, you guys don't get no time off for shit. In schools you don't have half term, you have no bank holidays, even on Christmas I'm led to believe yous lot just get the one day off, right? Yeah, why not, give America an excuse to put its feet up a bit :)

Mate what are you on about?! Seems like their schools have about the same if not more time than in the UK.

United States[edit]

In the United States, there are typically 180 school days in a year[3] (although school years at colleges and universities are often shorter). Private schools tend to have classes for 170 days each year, but sometimes have them more or fewer days.

Public schools from grades K-12 may have the following breaks or holidays:

Event-based[edit]
  • Thanksgiving Holiday or Break - Occurs at the end of November. This holiday usually consists of the week of Thanksgiving - 2 days before Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving Day, and the day after; the Friday before the break is often a half-day. Some areas have the Monday and Tuesday of the Thanksgiving week as regular days and take Wednesday as a half-day; with Thanksgiving and the day after off.
  • Christmas or Holiday Break - Varies in length per school; usually starts at the third Saturday in December and ends a day or two after New Year's Day (sometimes the first Monday after the New Year's Day), unless New Year's Day falls on a Sunday in which case the first Monday (January 2) is the official holiday and schools may not begin until January 3; the most recent occurrence of this was in the 2011-12 holiday break when January 1, 2012 fell on a Sunday.
  • Martin Luther King Day Break - Martin Luther King Day is always on the third Monday of January each year. Some students have a full or half-day Friday and have the weekend, Martin Luther King day, and sometimes Tuesday off.
  • Easter Break - Usually lasts for one or two weeks in March or April (often starting on Lazarus Saturday). Also referred to as Spring Break.
  • Columbus Day Break - Columbus Day is always the second Monday in October. Many schools take a week off, though some areas only take Columbus Day itself off. In some states, however, Columbus Day is not observed as a school holiday at all.
Season-based[edit]
  • Autumn or Fall Break - Usually lasts for one week in October (in the week of Columbus Day). See Columbus Day above.
  • Winter Break - One week in February (usually at or around President's Day) or March (depending on the region).
  • Summer Vacation or Break - Lasts for about 12 weeks, starting anywhere from late May to late June, and ending anywhere from late August to the day after Labor Day in early September. This often depends on the region - for example, most schools in the Northeastern United States end in June and start just after Labor Day, while the majority of schools in the Southern U.S. have schools end in May and start again in August.
  • Teacher's Day off - Exists in some school districts, being two to three days at any time in school calendar.
  • All federal and state holidays - That includes religious holidays, such as Good Friday; and sometimes Jewish and Islamic holidays, depending on school demographic.
  • Snow days - (in regions where it snows in winter) - Usually is one or two days because of a snowstorm, but can last anywhere up to a full week.

Note: Often in Charter Schools breaks are shorter due to the extended number of days students spend in school (200 days vs. 180 days for standard public schools).

College breaks

Colleges and universities vary widely. Some closely follow the K-12 break schedule, others have the same but longer breaks to accommodate students who live farther away and wish to return home for holidays. Most colleges and universities have the following breaks/holidays:

  • Thanksgiving Holiday - End of November (The week of Thanksgiving - 3 days before Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving Day, and the day after - the Friday before the break is considered a half-day).
  • Christmas/Holiday Break - mid-December to late January
  • Spring Break - a week in March or April (usually starting on Good Friday)
  • Summer Break - Early/mid May to between late August and the day after Labor Day in September
  • Snow Days (In regions where it snows in winter) - usually a few days up to a full week, and no days to make up.

Most colleges and university years are divided into two semesters. The first starting from day after Labor Day in early September until mid-December, and the second lasting from the end of January until early May. Winter and summer classes could be taken in between the breaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_holiday#United_States

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Mate what are you on about?! Seems like their schools have about the same if not more time than in the UK.

I wasn't talking about schools though, except with the half term comment.
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Mate what are you on about?! Seems like their schools have about the same if not more time than in the UK.

I wasn't talking about schools though, except with the half term comment.

According to Wiki, the US has 10 Federal holidays and 10 annual holidays. That is far more time off than we get with our puny 7 or so bank holidays :lol:

And while US schools don't have half-terms they have equivalent holidays with different names.

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I love holidays but baseball just isn't as important in American culture as it used to be, and that's the point of a holiday. Holidays are events where everyone across the country shares something in common. Yes, I know not everyone is Christian and celebrates Christmas but it's a historical tradition at this point. It's something that would feel off if we didn't have it.

Now I understand history can always start and we can start this holiday, but really? I would tell you a good business wouldn't stop operations because baseball started.

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Mate what are you on about?! Seems like their schools have about the same if not more time than in the UK.

I wasn't talking about schools though, except with the half term comment.

According to Wiki, the US has 10 Federal holidays and 10 annual holidays. That is far more time off than we get with our puny 7 or so bank holidays :lol:

And while US schools don't have half-terms they have equivalent holidays with different names.

a lot of people do not get those days off though. i worked 3 thanksgivings in a row, most of those days off only go to federal workers. everyone else it is up to the employer. fuck a pizza hut manager refused to open the door on thanksgiving to let all the workers spend the holiday with their families and he was fired.

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