UK SUBS Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I created a separate thread as a lot of good debate is being lost on a number of different threads.I have mixed opinions about this but in short I believe (as we type and spk) things MAY be evolving.What's your view/take?PLEASE KEEP RESPECTFUL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Welcome back Duff. And like i said before, if Tommy is out, maybe Bucket can step in. Edited April 22, 2014 by Russel Nash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broskirose Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I hope not, and I don't think it will happen. He may guest again, but I doubt he'll ever region on a permanent basis. Just fly down for weddings and join the session musician payroll with Izzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Is this purely speculation on your part Subsy or do you know something we don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOla Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Ok so even the admin(s) is saying that Duff will rejoin Guns. I think it's sealed then. We will know tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 As long as it doesn't delay the next album (lol) I'm fine with it. Assuming that Tommy wants out and isn't being pushed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Welcome back Duff. And like i said before, if Tommy is out, maybe Bucket can step in.Mind blown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Ok so even the admin(s) is saying that Duff will rejoin Guns. I think it's sealed then. We will know tomorrow.Umm he's not saying that at all. He's just encouraging discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I want Slash on bass and Duff singingAxl can play xylophone 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Less and less members of the failed CD era would be on stage, I'd love to see that. The proof that this Axl solo adventure was a failure. Also, happy for Duff. He could play along his friend, make easy money for 4-5 months a year and he could be the bridge between Axl and..... NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 On one hand, touring has visibly taken its toll on Tommy, and few people would dispute the suspicion that he has a tendency to hit the booze hard. Axl will be aware of how Duff rejoining has essentially revitalized the band, and diluted the press' usually hostile perception of modern GNR. It may be that Duff coming back was a sort of trial and error; with a view to asking him back if things went well.But on the other hand, Tommy has maintained from the beginning that he will return in Bethlehem. In my view, that is the fact we should focus on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 What I think?I think Tommy can start a new career as an actor and not require any costume, he can be an extra on this show: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Powerage5 Posted April 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2014 At the very least, Tommy will stick around through the residency. He and the band have stated numerous times that he'll be back in Bethlehem, and Duff has Walking Papers gigs in Europe that conflict with the last week of the residency.Honestly, I don't see it happening unless The Replacements go full time again, which they've said they don't want to do. And even then we don't know if Duff would want to rejoin full time. I guess what I'm saying is as of right now, there's too many angles to assume anything. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I would love it if Duff came back. He's be good for GNR, as we've seen in SA. I think he has some leverage over Axl, so IF there's new music on the way, he won't be holding things up. Nothing against Tommy, but as I became a fan in 1991, so I prefer Duff.What makes me somewhat hopeful ? The fact that GNR seems to post quite a few pics of Axl and Duff on social media. It's not as if they're keeping it low profile. Even on the tweet about Golden Gods, there's this picture of Axl and Duff, without the rest of the band. Furthermore, if Duff replaces Tommy at Golden Gods, the casual fans will think Duff joined GNR again for good, wouldn' t they ? I mean, not everyone keeps up with this saga.And the fact that Subsy made this thread, where only recently he said there was literally no reason to assume that Duff would stay on longer than the 5 SA shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Duff returning to Guns N' Roses is nothing but a great thing, and could foreseeably be an excellent way to motivate Axl to put out more music and tour. Welcome back Duff!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 doubt it.Unfortunately, I'm with you on this one. Would be really nice to be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I created a separate thread as a lot of good debate is being lost on a number of different threads.I have mixed opinions about this but in short I believe (as we type and spk) things MAY be evolving.What's your view/take?PLEASE KEEP RESPECTFUL!I think you used the right word there: evolving...If it does happen, it won't be like the many other line-up changes that we've seen, with one player instantly replacing another. But I can definitely see Duff being used more and more, with Tommy focusing on other projects. The key question, for me at least, is whether there's any chance of new music coming out. As counter-intuitive as this might sound, Duff taking over on bass might indicate that new music is less likely. If GNR is truly nothing more than a touring act that recycles through its back catalogue, then Duff's inclusion makes sense. Tommy might be more inclined to stick around if another album with his contributions was coming out. But now that it's been over five years since the release of the last album, and the horizon shows no indication of another release, there might be very little rationale left for Tommy to stick around. Sure, there's the money, but by this point he's probably past that. Where Duff is in his career seems more line with where Axl currently finds himself. I've always maintained that if Axl loses the drive to release new music he should retire this lineup and get back as many of the classic lineup as he can. My bet is we'll be seeing more and more Duff as time wears on. Just look at the effect his inclusion had on ticket sales in Argentina (if the reports are to be believed). If Axl's playing for his retirement now, he has to be aware of the positive effect Duffy's presence has at the ticket gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 At the very least, Tommy will stick around through the residency. He and the band have stated numerous times that he'll be back in Bethlehem, and Duff has Walking Papers gigs in Europe that conflict with the last week of the residency.Honestly, I don't see it happening unless The Replacements go full time again, which they've said they don't want to do. And even then we don't know if Duff would want to rejoin full time. I guess what I'm saying is as of right now, there's too many angles to assume anything.You can bet your bottom dollar Duff would love to be back in the fold full time, Msl said a while ago that Duff has been trying to get back in the band for years, and most in the band were happy for it to happen (make of that what you will). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Subs - Any particular reason you feel things may be evolving behind the scenes, or are you just speculating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin White Duke Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I don't think so.But, if he joins Guns, does it mean he wouldn't play anymore with Slash if Slash asked him? I doubt it, unless we are missing something here. And I don't think Axl would be happy with that if Duff was officially a GNR member again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 It was amazing seeing Duff with Axl, but I don't want to see Duff being just a hired hand in Axl's GNR. I mean, 5 shows with Duff in SA and Axl couldn't be bothered with So Fine, even when the crowd in Recife was chanting for it.I love Duff, but I dig Tommy's work on ChiDem, and I feel like he genuinely wants to make new music/see the unreleased music out there. I can't see Duff giving up Walking Papers and Loaded to play the same setlist for years on end and put up with late starts, tantrums, etc. More guest appearances from Duff and Izzy would be amazing, but I want this band to get out of the funk it's in and move forward... unless Axl and DJ are planning on making a GNRXX:AM album If Tommy + Bumble leave, I can't see Axl releasing new music ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 i think Tommy will do the residency and betlehem show and stuff i mean he wouldn't just walk off like that without any goodbye show or whatever if he leaves and if Duff would join the band again, things are ofcourse looking like it as what we are discussing right now but i think things will be clear as soon as this tour ends before that we shouldn't pin ourselves onto anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UK SUBS Posted April 22, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2014 Sofine/Dazey (quote not working for some reason).I have really good sources close to Axl (one in particular), im not 'showing off' or anything like that, not my style but it is what it is, anyway..... I know FOR A FACT that Tommy was planned to be back for these awards and that was (**looks at emails..... 15th April). It's there in black and white, Duff's last shows were suppose to be "Fortaleza" I get a response from any emails within 48 hours and usually within hours to any serious question I have/I out forward for the community. I've emailed my source regarding the turn around of events and currently it's gone silent. That maybe a coincidence? It may be that Tommy couldn't make the awards too? but like I say, Tommy WAS due back for these awards, FACT! Something has changed be it genuine or otherwise, that's all I know guys 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR41 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 For Duff's sake, I hope this doesn't happen. If he toured full time with Axl again I don't think they'd ever speak again. Let's stick to the guest spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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