Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, action said: I've watched it two days ago, as a matter of fact. great, great performance. but there is certain sadness and loneliness in his eyes. I see a clear invisible wall between Elvis and the exctatic crowd full of cheering ladies. that was no rock n roll audience, and I can't honestly feel how Elvis felt at home there Well how the hell is Freddie Mercury (or anyone for that matter?) into it on a stadium stage? 1 minute ago, action said: the diego maradona of rock n roll I posted Pele up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Len Cnut said: There’s always an argument to be made You are trying to annoy me, aren't you? I took the fact that Little Richard is behind a piano as suitable grounds for omission, but if we are including him it is somewhat a tie between the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Len Cnut said: Well how the hell is Freddie Mercury (or anyone for that matter?) into it on a stadium stage? that's not difficult to answer. the various sing along interactions with the public. elvis never did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, action said: that's not difficult to answer. the various sing along interactions with the public. elvis never did that. Why should the public be asked to sing - Rose did with Heaven's Dawawa also? I'm the paying customer. You're the singer. You sing the song you lazy wanker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, action said: that's not difficult to answer. the various sing along interactions with the public. elvis never did that. Stadiums are cold impersonal, there’s no such thing as stadium rock n roll, not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: This I believe ends the conversation on who is the greatest frontman, He looks like an Easter Egg after he takes his blazer off. And did he wear knee pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Why should the public be asked to sing - Rose did with Heaven's Dawawa also? I'm the paying customer. You're the singer. You sing the song you lazy wanker. the customer is king, as they say. I want to feel entertained, I want to feel a connection with the artist. otherwise I could just put on a record at home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Why should the public be asked to sing - Rose did with Heaven's Dawawa also? I'm the paying customer. You're the singer. You sing the song you lazy wanker. Thank you, this ain’t a 1940s pub 1 minute ago, soon said: He looks like an Easter Egg after he takes his blazer off. And did he wear knee pads? He’d better have the way he did those jumps onto his knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Len Cnut said: Stadiums are cold impersonal, there’s no such thing as stadium rock n roll, not really. motley crue, AC/DC, the rolling stones, guns n roses, metallica..... their music comes alive in a stadium setting. fire, confetti, strippers, madness, moshpits... you know, there was music made after 1959, you're aware of that yes? 8 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: I posted Pele up there! pele is a boring wannabee diego is smoke and mirrors (and the last part, you can take litterally) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, action said: motley crue, AC/DC, the rolling stones, guns n roses, metallica..... their music comes alive in a stadium setting. fire, confetti, strippers, madness, moshpits... you know, there was music made after 1959, you're aware of that yes? Rock n Roll ain’t fuckin’ Coca Cola sponsored bullshit, its played in cavernous dives and bars and clubs, stadiums are for selling hot dogs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Rock n Roll ain’t fuckin’ Coca Cola sponsored bullshit, its played in cavernous dives and bars and clubs, stadiums are for selling hot dogs. the beatles never made it past the caverns. they played a roof once, but that doesn't count. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 this is entertainment, folks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, action said: this is entertainment, folks Wankers. A mickey mouse New York Dolls with all the make up and none of the charm, gormless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 the folk from the netherlands sure know how to throw a party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Stand a million miles away from a couple of dots of a prefab stage and watch the show on a giant telly hanging over ya...and get yourself a T shirt on the way out for 20 quid, bollocks to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, action said: the folk from the netherlands sure know how to throw a party A colleague of mine went to see the Toppers, it's an annual thing... needless to say I never looked at him the same way again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Stand a million miles away from a couple of dots of a prefab stage and watch the show on a giant telly hanging over ya...and get yourself a T shirt on the way out for 20 quid, bollocks to that. on the contrary my dear watson, that must be the single most uplifting performance I ever seen. that's something else than the granny music from the 50s, which my granddad is humming along to, with his pipe and dangling his knee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, action said: on the contrary my dear watson, that must be the single most uplifting performance I ever seen. that's something else than the granny music from the 50s, which my granddad is humming along to, with his pipe and dangling his knee And thats modern is it? I had to google the wankers to find out who they were, Europop/disco? Welcome to 1972 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Len Cnut said: And thats modern is it? I had to google the wankers to find out who they were, Europop/disco? Welcome to 1972 they are an absolute phenomenon, almost identifiying them with a whole nation. I see "the toppers" I see dutch attitude, partying, laughing, having a good time. it's one of the most purest examples of music directly stemming from a base culture, it basically advertises itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, action said: they are an absolute phenomenon, almost identifiying them with a whole nation. I see "the toppers" I see dutch attitude, partying, laughing, having a good time. it's one of the most purest examples of music directly stemming from a base culture, it basically advertises itself. I never thought I’d see the day where you’d be lecturing me on modernism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Len Cnut said: I never thought I’d see the day where you’d be lecturing me on modernism yeah I guess It's come to something when someone who refuses to go past the 90s lectures someone who refuses to go past the 50s . so yeah, compared to you, I guess you could call me a modernist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, action said: they are an absolute phenomenon, almost identifiying them with a whole nation. I see "the toppers" I see dutch attitude, partying, laughing, having a good time. it's one of the most purest examples of music directly stemming from a base culture, it basically advertises itself. It's basically just carnival without the history and tradition behind it, isn't it? Adults dressing up, singing along to medleys, drinking a lot and having a good time. I'd rather get kicked in the balls repeatedly than attend a Toppers concert, but each to their own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, action said: yeah I guess It's come to something when someone who refuses to go past the 90s lectures someone who refuses to go past the 50s . so yeah, compared to you, I guess you could call me a modernist See therein lies the issue, I’m way past the 90s, I could go on at length about 50 Cent, Eminem, hip hop in general pre and post 90s, Grime, Garage etc etc etc but who’d listen on a forum full of metallers? I could talk about Sleaford Mods or Mike Skinner or Tempa T or Wiley but someone around here would have to know who they are first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, action said: you know, there was music made after 1959 Crazy talk. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, action said: they are an absolute phenomenon, almost identifiying them with a whole nation. I see "the toppers" I see dutch attitude, partying, laughing, having a good time. it's one of the most purest examples of music directly stemming from a base culture, it basically advertises itself. Also, this is not what I associate with the Dutch, the south perhaps who have a Burgundian background (like the Belgians) and who are more known for celebrating and enjoying life with food, drink, etc., but the rest of the country comes from a Calvinist background which doesn't really gel with ''partying, laughing, having a good time'' as you see it. Not that it's so black or white anymore nowadays, but that's not how I would associate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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