EvH Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Can we close this joke of a thread, the verbal/written jousting is getting boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 ^^^^ Co-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) It's not about doubting your own statements, it's just that your statements are all wrong. And why am I being insecure? I'm the one proving each one of your points to be wrong. You can stand still for it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. By pushing it, you're only making a fool of yourself and I'm certainly not the only one who sees it. And, where did I say it should be 50-50? The possibility of Slash being an asshole is there, and could be very high likely, but like I said before, there are no facts to back that up. You can't claim something it's impossible when there is a chance for the opposite, even if it's small.My statements are not wrong and you don't prove jack poo-poo I'll tell you why....At some point, in this thread, you decided to butt into a conversation I was having with some guys, where I finished my opinion with "impossible". Actually, the complete sentence was: "This is the second time Slash comments on Duff returning to GNR. It's impossible he doesn't know the name. Impossible". (page 16)Of course, I was using the term mostly in a figurative way. I am naturally inclined to use hyperbole when I express myself. And I guess most people are not literal when they speak or write, specially when they are giving opinion or talking about themselves.Later (page 20) you came and picked that one word to turn it into a battle of the logical use of logic and to intellectualize the topic. You said my statements were wrong and proceeded to explain the whole thing by using the "benefit of the doubt" and the "half-full, half-empty glass" system. Basically, you gave a free lesson of how there is a chance of Slash forgetting the name on purpose and how there isn't one.OK.Two things: first, you can't label my opinion as write or wrong. Opinions are not right or wrong. Correct or incorrect. They are just opinions. You completely overlooked that, probably in your anxiety to lecture me. And that is the exact minute when you failed with your whole lecture. Because you started your reply with that authoritarian tone that I despise in people. Whenever someone talks to me like that, I automatically lose respect for any following word that comes out of their mouth.Second, you took my expression literal and from there, you built up an entire lecture on something that has nothing to do with logic or mathematics. That's why I stand still in my statements because, even knowing there is a chance that he might forgotten the name or don't know who Tommy Stinson is, I choose to believe Slash does know the name and that he didn't mention Stinson on purpose.That is MY opinion, that is my glass half-empty and I DO NOT give him the benefit of the doubt. I used the term "impossible" as a figure of speech, where in my opinion, the chances that I mentioned before are a 99% inclined to the side of the scale where he is guilty.This doesn't make me better or worse than you. This does not make my opinions and statements WRONG. This does not put you in place to lecturize me in way for anything, because this is a discussion board where people discuss ideas and give opinion on GN'R facts, news, shows, albums, etc. Authoritarian tones and statements SHOULD NOT belong here.I don't know who Mr. Maths is. If you say the same proof you have is the same I have, then you're agreeing that you're wrong. The difference between my statement and yours is that I never claimed it's impossible that Slash knew Stinson's name or that it's impossible that Slash said "what's his name" in a derogatory way.Why would it be a fact that Slash knows who Stinson is? There is no evidence whatsoever that Slash knew his name, and even if he did, you have no reason to believe he didn't forget his name. I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over because you choose to ignore common sense. Oh, and where did I say it was not a mere speculation? I'm not the one claiming something "it's impossible".I could never agree with you on being wrong, because unlike you, I'm not an egocentric jerk and I never put myself on a pedestal where I tell people their opinions are right or wrong. What I meant with that is that I could be as RIGHT OR WRONG as you. You choose to give Slash the benefit of the doubt. You say have no proof to believe otherwise and that you need an audio file.Fine. I don't need an audio file. I believe the publication and the accuracy of the quote printed by the Daily Star. It doesn't make me wrong. It doesn't make you wrong to need an audio file. Its your opinion. It's my opinion. You are not more valuable than I am. Perhaps, in your selfish mind you are, but that's ok. I have no problem with that. I'm confident with myself as well.Everything is about me. See how angry you are, it's actually hilarious. I mean, I understand you're angry because I wiped the floor with your flawed logic. I understand you're angry because I proved and keep proving you wrong every time you post."You have not proven my point wrong AT ALL" doesn't actually mean I haven't but keep living in denial. Just next time you come back, attack the argument and not the user -- unless you want to keep ridiculing yourself. LOL Everything is about you? wow.... YES.... probably, in your own pathetic and selfish world everything revolves around you and there's no room for anyone else... But not here and not with me, certainly. I don't know you and the only reason why I'm talking to you is because you addressed me like 3 pages ago and out of politeness, I'm replying. I dont know if you understand that... Ummm...No. I'm not angry at all. Angry at some random unknown guy in a GN'R board? My gosh!Just because I stand up and I have enough confidence to answer to each one of your provocations, mistreatments, understimations and humillitions you like to inflict on me and on several people in this forum, it doesn't make me angry. Nope, sir. You are mistaken and incorrect at that.Finally, I'll let you think you have "wiped the floor" with my "flawed logic" because that's how you proceed with lunatics. You simply don't engage with their fantasies.The irony of this, is that neither of you realise how childish your exchange is. Even if you may point out factually correct information, none of you are 'right' because of the ridiculous way you try to use it. " I understand you're angry because I wiped the floor with your flawed logic."Don't think that I don't know that I'm treating with some kid on an ego trip. It may look childish, but I don't let people like that step on me and think they are THE UNTOUCHABLE SHIT. I'm on this earth to combat that kind of people. And probably that is my last response to that poor excuse for a human being.I knew from minute one that I'm not RIGHT, as in, there is no chance that someone else has a different opinion and I am the only one who holds the truth. I just simply took a position, a side on this story and I defend my POV. I could go for the easy lane and say "yeah maybe he did forget, maybe he didnt", blah blah... I mean, nothing wrong if you choose to stand in the middle. It's not like a big deal of an issue. But since the topic is heated, I chose to give opinion and try to explain why I believe Slash is "guilty".It gets big here because we only discuss GN'R and any event related to the band is magnified, but that is our choice of entertainment, we can't complain much.Regardless of whether or not you were able to 'wipe the floor' with someone else's viewpoint, the only fact that really stands out is that you are not a good person at all. Something that is always lost on obnoxious little pricks who think its a sign of intelligence to suggest their reality is more than real than that of another person.Yup. Could not have said it better Are you 14? Take a step outside ya fuckin' twat!Lock this thread, Russ, pls Edited June 21, 2014 by ZoSoRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Now I am very intrigued as to exactly, exactly how Slash elucidated the three fabled words 'what's-his-name', they could sell this video for $100,000 to the hoarders, it's hot shit, even more valuable than any sequel tracks or band documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuzeville Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ain't that 4 words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Don't complicate this great mystery there's enough to postulate as it is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darknightfan Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 How come in every thread people get so defensive? Like if their opinion isn't right they freak out and insult? It doesn't even matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin' Cigarettes Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 For the love of God, Please end this stupid ass thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 We need a Russ Signal like the Bat Signal, where instead of the bat it's a padlock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 We need a Russ Signal like the Bat Signal, where instead of the bat it's a padlock.Just now saw all the requests in the thread to lock it. To be honest, I stopped watching the thread closely a while ago. I had the nerve to suggest that everthing Slash says and does might not be geared towards Axl & GN'R, which was insane from what I gather. After that, I figured I'd just let the thread run wild 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The irony of it all is that the guys in Axl's Guns N Roses (except Ashba, probably) probably wouldn't even contest that for the most part people could not care less as to who they are exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The irony of it all is that the guys in Axl's Guns N Roses (except Ashba, probably) probably wouldn't even contest that for the most part people could not care less as to who they are exactly.That's my thing. I can and do genuinely love everyone in this GN'R line up, save for DJ of course, all I want. That doesn't mean I have to be blind to the fact that 99.9% of the rest of the world doesn't have a clue who any of them are. I believe most of the guys know that as well and none of them seem to care that much. They're all content with where they're at with their careers which is a healthy place to be in. I'd be shocked if Tommy Stinson is even remotely aware that Slash said this and even if he were, I'm sure it was in his mind for all of 3.5 seconds before he went back to not caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The irony of it all is that the guys in Axl's Guns N Roses (except Ashba, probably) probably wouldn't even contest that for the most part people could not care less as to who they are exactly.That's my thing. I can and do genuinely love everyone in this GN'R line up, save for DJ of course, all I want. That doesn't mean I have to be blind to the fact that 99.9% of the rest of the world doesn't have a clue who any of them are. I believe most of the guys know that as well and none of them seem to care that much. They're all content with where they're at with their careers which is a healthy place to be in. I'd be shocked if Tommy Stinson is even remotely aware that Slash said this and even if he were, I'm sure it was in his mind for all of 3.5 seconds before he went back to not caring. Exactly.I seriously doubt Tommy or Ron thinks they are going to reach some kind of waypoint where instead of Duff or Slash it's Tommy and or Ron that people think of when somebody mentions Guns N Roses...and I'm sure they took the job knowing that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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