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Rock in Rio 2001: "We'll be back next summer with a whole bunch of new songs" (Axl).

How did that work out?

Chinese Democracy second album in 2009 (Axl).

How did that work out?

In real life Fernando is like a wet fart of publicity.

I'm not sure if this band is like Elvis, Sinatra or Freddie Mercury just before they died, but I keep thinking about an old goldfish flapping around upside down in a bowl whilst a young child tries to imagine whats going on and denies anything bad.

Freddie Mercury? The man who literally sang until the end? Famous for downing a shot of vodka before recording Show Must Go On in one brilliant take? I think you can remove him from that list...

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What gets me is, I mean not you personally Bran but the forum in general, you do realise this Fernando bloke is taking the piss out of you right? And quite frankly you all deserve it cuz you're behav

I just wanna say... I read what Len said and i totally agree. Axl and the management have been pissing on their fans over the last five years, at least. Why the fuck do we treat Fernando like he's wor

Honestly, hand on heart, if you were in the fans position, what would you think? OK, you could say, y'know, it's only a band so, whatever, I'd sit back and wait on a release etc, be supportive, fair

What gets me is, I mean not you personally Bran but the forum in general, you do realise this Fernando bloke is taking the piss out of you right? And quite frankly you all deserve it cuz you're behaving like wankers. I mean, it's mostly adults in here right, grown ups, you ain't fuckin' 13 yr olds here so why do yous all behave so much like it? You think you're gonna get news, or new music, or a tour? It's fuckin' jokes and you're it. You ain't gonna get shit worth talking about.

And the funniest bit is, you get cunted off by this band and their management umpteen times and whenever one of em shows up here it ends up you lot feeling sorry for them instead :lol:

So uh, whys it been all quiet on the western front?

Well some people said some mean things and, see, this is why we don't give you news, cuz you're mean people!

Look, personally, it's beyond me, i don't even really care but do you not see that you're having the piss taken out of you REALLY badly? I mean all this 'you say mean stuff about us' stuff, no offence but how fuckin' old are you?

Do you not realise that you're actually in charge of something quite big and important? I mean it's an organisation worth a fair bit of money with a huge fucking following. It's like fuckin' Obama stepping up to the lectern and the worlds press going 'so, Mr President, any news on those bills you were gonna push through three months ago?' 'Shit, why should i tell yous lot anything, you say mean things about me in the papers and you're horrible about me' :lol:

The entire thing here is this guy or whoever from the 'inside' has got news of some kind of inside info so they dangle it in front of you like the kid in primary school goes 'i'll give you a lend of my new Mario game but you gotta be my slave for the rest of the day!' and the other kid actually does it, it's HILAIRIOUS to watch :lol:

And then they go for five seconds and it's like 'see see?!?! it's him, there, the one that called him a meanie!' :lol: All this fuckin' fannying about and all you get is 'SOME kinda news in 2-4 months', so you don't even know what you're working on, like you don't even have an idea, you can't even say whether it's like, tours or something? :lol: And yet and still you fawn like a bunch of fuckin' retards getting a chocolate biscuit waved at em, it's the funniest thing in the world.

And y'know what, it ain't even Fernandos fault, or Guns management, or Axl, it's you lot, you lot all get mugged off because, our survey says, you're a bunch of fuckin' mugs. Take this advice from your Uncle Len and heed it, if you are there to be taken in this life well then you can get your last fuckin Rolo that you will be taken, and there will be 10 people lined up to take you, thats the way the world works, the world doesn't forgive stupidity, it takes advantage of it, if you walk down the street in any city in this world with your wallet dangling out of your back pocket then it's gonna get taken and it ain't the thieves fault, it's YOUR fault because YOU should know better. Kinda like Floyd Mayweather fighting Andre Berto, it's pathetic but it's no better that boxing fans deserve because they keep paying for it sooo...

Have you ever gotten any information of any kind of substance whatsoever, even once from the management of this band? No you haven't. And apparently, it's all your fault because you're all baaaad baaad people :lol: Racists and abusers and foul cowardly internet cupcakes with no guts that attack these poor people that are TRYING so hard to do their job if only people like you didn't taint and soil their psyche and prevent them from doing it, you awful awful people!'

'So uh...any news about the band?'

'Shut up! Abuser, abuser, shut up! For this you shall drink bitter waters! You'll not hear from Axl for another 11 years now!'

I mean it's almost fuckin' Biblical as punishments go, I mean whats the idea, hang it out long enough so all those that did evil in the eyes of The Rose are consumed by age :lol:

It's a joke and you're it.

good post.

i didnt even know fernando was posting here(shows how much i have been paying attention :lol:) i dont care what he has to say to be honest its usually bullshit or blowing smoke up peoples asses or like you said just saying shit to get at people.

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Freddie Mercury? The man who literally sang until the end? Famous for downing a shot of vodka before recording Show Must Go On in one brilliant take? I think you can remove him from that list...

Sorry, I never was a big fan - I might have been too young, I just remembered how he looked in the last video. thats all I was try to put across. Great singer by anyones standards. Sorry again.

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Ideally, for me anyway, i'd like to see some sort of live archive in the vein of the Fugazi & Bikini Kill websites that offer the chance to download all available live shows from whatever years they deem suitable, either audio or video, aswell as flyers and photos from the concerts and experiences from attendees made up of whatever the band have available to them with hopefully a lot of unreleased or unheard shows. That's just in an ideal situation though because I don't know how keen GNR have been on keeping their shit recorded and stored or whatever, but you never know what fans have available if you reach out to them. Kiss did it with Kissology and AC/DC did it with that big four DVD box set they put out which brought up some cool and exciting results. It's a pretty neat and exciting way of engaging with fans, too.

Whatever's left over of the original Chinese Democracy sessions would be good. Again, having never managed a multi million record selling band I don't know how easy it'd be but in a land of pipe dreams when record label politics aren;t an issue something like what David Lynch did with the Twin Peaks music archives where he released about 60 tracks worth of unheard shit for a big one time price would be good if it was made up of new music and alternate takes and demos of music.

DVD market's is allegedly on it's arse but it'd be good to get live videos up on a Youtube or Vimeo channel, maybe. Again, if it's stuff nobody outside of the band has seen it'd be very exciting to have. Cheap Trick a few years ago discovered and put up a whole bunch of shows on Youtube. Danzig put out a documentary for a one off price on Vimeo.

Anyway, all in an ideal situation.

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I know why 'nothing' is winning, but I also think a lot of people just vote for it, just to show how much they hate present GnR. I'm not saying I'm 100% convinced about things happening but I'm definitely hopeful and I don't see why it's so unreasonable. It's the best time for them to pull their finger out, worldwide music news believe this band is on it's last legs, the fans aren't even sure anymore. This is the perfect time to prove people wrong, hopefully they can see it and make things happen. Keep expectations reasonable and we won't be too disappointed if things do in fact turn out to be nothing at all.

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What a post from Len'Bstard :lol:

You cnuts have been mugged off... and will continue to get mugged off...

Axl once said... "dont expect anything.. go and live your life"... we were all actually warned. So no-one can complain! At the end of the day, its their toy... they can do what they want with it. Unfortunately for Guns.. and its fans, time is running out for them to do anything meaningful .I mean.. lets look at the facts.

1. The last we saw of Axl... he looked average, and sounded average. Note: I could have been a lot harsher with my wording there but for the sake of keeping this post nice.. ill just go with that.

2. Who really gives a shit about Guns version 5.0 with another 2 new hired hands? I f*cking dont. in fact you could shave another 50% of my care factor off if that thats what happens.. which will leave me with a care factor of 1%.

3. New music? You guys are having a laugh..we have had 1 album in 20 years. Yes... a couple of hardcore fans probably still get hard ons for the second half of chinese.. or even the fucking "remix" album that Axl once spoke about.. but really? REALLY? is that what weve all been hanging on the forum for the past god knows how many years? As for NEW music.... if Axl gets 2 new hired stooges... do you think all 5 or 6 members and axl are going to hit the studio and work feverishly on a brand new album and have it pumped out in NORMAL time? :lol: That notion is laughable.

4. Reunion - Half of us believe its an even bigger stretch that option 3. But lets entertain the fact that it might happen for a second... (and also entertain that Slash and Duff would work with TB :facepalm: ).... this option is the only option that Axl has left that would generate any kind of buzz to get the band anywhere near back to the top. But does anyone REALLY see it happening? As much as this option would appeal to me (old band reunites, writes an album, tours it and then calls it a day)... i just dont see it. Duff & Izzy are creating an album together now.. Slash is still touring.. and... AND.... Axl has been unsighted in nearly a year... maybe hes even more unfit than he was 12 months ago? Maybe hes fitter... who knows.

But at the moment sucking up to Fernando... whos answered all of about 3 posts, and mocked magisme (which i couldnt give 2 shits about unless mag can get this guy to actually say something that might be half interesting).. then that thread is pointless. Im not interested in what Axl ate for fucking breakfast or what his new dogs name is. The very fact that management wants to put the blame back on this group of fans is a slap in the face for everyone whos hung around long enough to keep this "band" relevant. I get Fernando doesnt wanna fuck his meal ticket up by giving away exact plans for the future on a message board.. but u lot of have managed to get him to divulge precisely 2 parts of fuck all.

So lets call a spade a spade....

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I do not know why you lot are all sucking this guy's willy off. You see him observing but he is not replying, is he? Then when he does reply it is with really concise inconsequential sentences which you feel the urge to express your gratitude for like fawning obedient dickheads - ''so glad you are speaking to us'' etc etc. You are bombarding him with questions about the ''track listing for CD2'' and ''Axl's 2016 itinerary'' and, despite the fact that these are all basic questions, this guy is taking you for a joke.

But you are all just ''racists'' anyway though so I cannot really blame him.

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TLDR but spotted the thing about Slash and Duff working with TB...

How soon we forget Duff has already worked with TB?

Yes he has (I didnt forget anything). FillING in for 6 shows. There is a difference between that and a full blown reunion. Is there not?

Ill entertain you though.. and say yes, Duff would "on evidence" probably be willing to work TB... Slash??? That still seems a bit of a stretch.

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I do not know why you lot are all sucking this guy's willy off. You see him observing but he is not replying, is he? Then when he does reply it is with really concise inconsequential sentences which you feel the urge to express your gratitude for like fawning obedient dickheads - ''so glad you are speaking to us'' etc etc. You are bombarding him with questions about the ''track listing for CD2'' and ''Axl's 2016 itinerary'' and, despite the fact that these are all basic questions, this guy is taking you for a joke.

But you are all just ''racists'' anyway though so I cannot really blame him.

If you think Fernando is getting his dick sucked here... go over to HTGTH.. hes getting the full treatment over there. ;)

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Noted.

lol. Sad.

Another example of TB's arrogance and contempt for GNR's fan base. If this is the extent of what you have to offer on this board please stick to to the neo-Nazi-ran HTGTH, where everything is pixies and rainbows in GNR-land and anybody that dares to question the Fuhrer disappears in the middle of the night. Edited by Towelie
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I think anybody that is blaming Team Brazil for the way things are really doesn't get it.

Do you think they have Axl on a string? Track record says Axl does what he wants/feels like, and that predates being rich and famous.

Do you guys think replacing TB with *insert manager's name* is going to make Axl change now?

You could get *Manager X* to take over and all that will happen is he will get fired.

Credit where credit is due, they've (TB) managed to get Axl to take the stage in a pretty timely fashion...and they're obviously family to the guy.

I just don't really get people blaming TB for the shit Axl has been doing well before they were on the scene.

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All or nothing for me - it will be nothing or new music.

But I don't have my hopes up (don't get me wrong, I'd love to have new music from Axl & the band) but we've been in this situation before...

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I think anybody that is blaming Team Brazil for the way things are really doesn't get it.

Do you think they have Axl on a string? Track record says Axl does what he wants/feels like, and that predates being rich and famous.

Do you guys think replacing TB with *insert manager's name* is going to make Axl change now?

You could get *Manager X* to take over and all that will happen is he will get fired.

Credit where credit is due, they've (TB) managed to get Axl to take the stage in a pretty timely fashion...and they're obviously family to the guy.

I just don't really get people blaming TB for the shit Axl has been doing well before they were on the scene.

Nobodies blaming TB for Axl being Axl. But management coming onto message boards and calling fans "sad" for wanting news on the band is disgraceful. But then it's hardly surprising. Didn't Rockfuel once refer to TB as "the genius management team?"

I suppose you can't exactly expect professionalism from a bunch of lackeys who only got the job through their eptitude in sycophancy.

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Anything short of new music and I honestly don't care. everytime nugnr has toured I've always gone and been excited to go, can safely say I won't go and watch another gig with the hired hands. New music from Axl would be great tho but I've voted nothing will happen.

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But management coming onto message boards and calling fans "sad" for wanting news on the band is disgraceful.

How do you now that is what Fernando meant by "sad". I thought he was either commeting on Lennys tirade or the fact that most of us don't believe we will get any news in these four months. Of course I could be wrong, I just don't see how you can take that for granted, or did I miss something?

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