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1 hour ago, downzy said:

 

The entire article is based off "anonymous sources".  That said, if he actually said those exact quotes, it's extremely disappointing and borderline nauseating. 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The entire article is based off "anonymous sources".  That said, if he actually said those exact quotes, it's extremely disappointing and borderline nauseating. 

 

 

 

Of course they are anonymous sources since it comes from, and corroborated by, four people who either continue to work in the administration or are bound by the NDAs Trump forces everyone to sign.

Do you honestly think there’s a chance Trump didn’t say these things?  Bear in mind he’s already on video criticizing McCain; saying in his estimation McCain isn’t a war hero because he got caught. 

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Biden is speaking utter baloney. Neither Edison nor Latimer invented the incandescent light bulb. A multitude of inventors had developed a working electric light bulb stretching back to the 1830s, Jobard, John Starr, Frederick de Moleyns, Jean-Eugène Robert-Houdin, William Sawyer (whom arguably Edison ripped-off), etc. Swan and Edison created the first commercial electric lightbulb. Latimer was draftsman in Edison's company and patented a new method for producing carbon filaments, and other improvements.

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2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Biden is speaking utter baloney. Neither Edison nor Latimer invented the incandescent light bulb. A multitude of inventors had developed a working electric light bulb stretching back to the 1830s, Jobard, John Starr, Frederick de Moleyns, Jean-Eugène Robert-Houdin, William Sawyer (whom arguably Edison ripped-off), etc. Swan and Edison created the first commercial electric lightbulb. Latimer was draftsman in Edison's company and patented a new method for producing carbon filaments, and other improvements.

If you don't know who invented the lightbulb you ain't black.

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1 hour ago, Silent Jay said:
Joe Biden, the gift that keeps on giving :lol:

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

I'll tell my kids that tonight over dinner so they know the truth about the lights in our house.  I hope it makes them better people.

Like many early inventions (Telegraph, telephone, etc) the "light bulb" had a team of scientists/engineers, etc.  The very first ideas of "incandescent lighting" were drawn up decades before the actual "patent" for a light bulb was ever produced.  

The very first "incandescent lighting" was produced by Alessandro Volta, almost 80 years before the "first commercially available" bulb was manufactured/"invented".

 In 1800, Italian inventor Alessandro Volta developed the first practical method of generating electricity, the voltaic pile. Made of alternating discs of zinc and copper — interspersed with layers of cardboards soaked in salt water — the pile conducted electricity when a copper wire was connected at either end. While actually a predecessor of the modern battery, Volta's glowing copper wire is also considered to be one of the earliest manifestations of incandescent lighting.

https://www.livescience.com/43424-who-invented-the-light-bulb.html

 

Then later, Lewis Latimer (who had developed several ideas of his own in relation to "incandescent lighting"  was hired by Thomas Edison. There were a team of engineers working on it.  It wasn't "one person" and it did not happen "overnight".

 

The Edison Electric Light Company in New York City hired Latimer in 1884, as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigation on electric lights. While at Edison, Latimer wrote the first book on electric lighting, Incandescent Electric Lighting (1890)[10] and supervised the installation of public electric lights throughout New York, Philadelphia, Montreal, and London.[11] When that company was combined in 1892 with the Thomson-Houston Electric Company to form General Electric, he continued to work in the legal department. In 1911, he became a patent consultant to law firms.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Howard_Latimer#:~:text=Lewis Howard Latimer (September 4,the light bulb and telephone.

 

 

Long story short, just like many of the earlier inventions, the light bulb was developed by the ingenuity of several people, teams of "engineers"  etc over the course of decades. It started with Volta in 1800, then Davy produced the first "electric lamp" a few years later (1802)..then British chemist Warren de La Rue made advancements about 40 years later...then Joseph Swann...etc  

But it was Thomas Edison that had the organization, the talent (within his team of engineers, including Latimer) and the ability to make it available commercially.   That's why he is credited with the invention since it was his company that developed the final "product".  (And don't be mistaken, Edison was a genius in his own right and was deeply involved with the science of electricity and the development of the light bulb). 

 

So who invented the light bulb?

The ingenuity of mankind, imo...over the course of nearly 80 years.  But Edison was able to put the "final product" together.  (With a lot of help. ;) ) 

 

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57 minutes ago, downzy said:

Of course they are anonymous sources since it comes from, and corroborated by, four people who either continue to work in the administration or are bound by the NDAs Trump forces everyone to sign.

Do you honestly think there’s a chance Trump didn’t say these things?  Bear in mind he’s already on video criticizing McCain; saying in his estimation McCain isn’t a war hero because he got caught. 

I'm not sure.  I have doubts he used those "exact words".  The way the article is written, it seems to "piece together" separate events to form a "conclusion".  There's even a portion of it that dwells into his psyche, theorizing that Trump "fears being dismembered or killed"....which well...that's a bold statement...does Trump have a psychiatrist psychoanalyzing him among his staff? 

And if he said those exact things...as "pro-military" this country is, especially the Republican party....there would be people (not scared) to come forth with that sort of information.  They would get overwhelming support by the majority of the country....there would be no need to be "anonymous", imo.  Some of those comments (if not akin to treason) would be utterly offensive to most people (not just military families, veterans, etc). 

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36 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Why on earth are you crazy woke yanks now attacking poor old Louis XVI? What the sodden hell has he done to you? He lost his head when he lived and now you have chopped his arm off! 

https://eu.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2020/09/03/king-louis-xvi-statue-in-downtown-louisville-removed/5701120002

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Because he's an old, dead, white man. Simple as.

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17 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

In his response he claims he never called John McCain a loser. 

The story has now been confirmed and corroborated by The Associated Press and The Washington Post.

 

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1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said:

Why on earth are you crazy woke yanks now attacking poor old Louis XVI? What the sodden hell has he done to you? He lost his head when he lived and now you have chopped his arm off! 

https://eu.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2020/09/03/king-louis-xvi-statue-in-downtown-louisville-removed/5701120002

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1 hour ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Because he's an old, dead, white man. Simple as.

"The monument to the last king of France, who was executed by guillotine in 1793 amid the French Revolution, was put up in Louisville in 1967. It was a gift from Montpellier, a southern French sister city to Louisville, as a symbol of friendship."

 

Gone are the days of representing friendship among international sister cities...not because they are any less but because we let the misguided fringe scream the loudest, in an era of misinformation, fallacious senses of justice and newfound prejudices.

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3 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

They would get overwhelming support by the majority of the country....there would be no need to be "anonymous", imo.  Some of those comments (if not akin to treason) would be utterly offensive to most people (not just military families, veterans, etc)

You must see the Republican Party as something different than myself and many others. Most won’t give a shit even if Trump admits it. He’s already on record for calling McCain a loser; has gone after a gold star family, and boasted he knew more about military strategy than the generals. Republicans have backed him regardless. They don’t care. 

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27 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

"The monument to the last king of France, who was executed by guillotine in 1793 amid the French Revolution, was put up in Louisville in 1967. It was a gift from Montpellier, a southern French sister city to Louisville, as a symbol of friendship."

 

Gone are the days of representing friendship among international sister cities...not because they are any less but because we let the misguided fringe scream the loudest, in an era of misinformation, fallacious senses of justice and newfound prejudices.

No alliance with Louis XVI's France, no Battle of Chesapeake and no American Independence. You could argue his support for the American war lost him his throne (and head) considering it bankrupted the French monarchy leading to the French Revolution.

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9 hours ago, downzy said:

You must see the Republican Party as something different than myself and many others. Most won’t give a shit even if Trump admits it. He’s already on record for calling McCain a loser; has gone after a gold star family, and boasted he knew more about military strategy than the generals. Republicans have backed him regardless. They don’t care. 

It's one thing to say you don't like another politician (albeit a war hero) ...but he was in politics.  (Not an excuse but the fact that he was in politics and went against him on some political issues would make some people look the other way) And random comments (said in the spur of the moment) saying he was an expert in military strategy, etc.  These comments go beyond all of those, imo. As president of a nation who's fallen veterans are the reason we are who we are....I mean...it's beyond all those things for him to say anything close to what he (supposedly) said, imo. 

That's why the comments are shocking...and since they are so egregious, I would expect more information to come out, etc.  But I will say that his immediate and direct response denying he said it and referring to someone who said such things as "an animal" was interesting....idk...I don't see Trump calling himself "an animal".  Do you?   Just seems bizarre to me. 

I really don't know what to think if it, tbh. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Jakey Styley said:

That Atlantic article is so obviously untrue. What that article is describing is cartoonishly unrealistic. You seriously need to reevaluate your biases if you don't look at that article with skepticism.

The voice of reason. I'll characterize it as 'big if true.' I'm going to need more than anonymous sources to believe something that really seems as cartoonish as this.

The funny thing is, his comment about asking 'who were the good guys in this war' and why would the US join the allies in WW1 is actually a nuanced comment that seems beyond what Trump would normally say. That might be the most unrealistic of them all!

Edit: it's obvious he has people in his own administration that hate him (he's done a terrible job at staffing, just beyond laughable, it's like these people don't even get interviewed for their positions). It's not hard for me to believe these same people would throw out red meat like this to try and get him out of office. And the press can run it because these are real people in his administration making claims that they can neither prove nor disprove because it's all allegation and nothing was taped.

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9 hours ago, Jakey Styley said:

That Atlantic article is so obviously untrue. What that article is describing is cartoonishly unrealistic. You seriously need to reevaluate your biases if you don't look at that article with skepticism.

What about his entire presidency isn't cartoonishly unrealistic? This isn't hard to believe in the context of the last three four years.

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10 hours ago, Jakey Styley said:

That Atlantic article is so obviously untrue. What that article is describing is cartoonishly unrealistic. You seriously need to reevaluate your biases if you don't look at that article with skepticism.

You'd be suprised how many people believe what the media tells them without a hint of skepticism.

These are people who genuinely believe a black man invented the light bulb.

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Just now, Silent Jay said:

You'd be suprised how many people believe what the media tells them without a hint of skepticism.

These are people who genuinely believe a black man invented the light bulb.

And that Trump isn't a lifelong criminal it's crazy. :lol: 

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