ralebava Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 What do u think, if the original GNR tour, will they play the ChiDem songs, and, Slash will be able to play Buckethead riffs? I think, if Axl is on strict diet, Slash is on strict guitar lessons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Money Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 They will. And this thread will end up including Adler vs. Sorum theories, so I'll say both of those drummers can handle CD songs (even if many disagree). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralebava Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) They will. And this thread will end up including Adler vs. Sorum theories, so I'll say both of those drummers can handle CD songs (even if many disagree).Yeah, its very clear that Matt and Steven can handle ChiDem songs, but, one thing are the drums, and other very differents the guitars, Buckethead and Bumblefoot are virtuosos guitarist, not better or worse than Slash IMO, but differents. So, if Slash wants to play CD songs, he has to learn to play it, with the same speed, and technisism that Bucket... For Example: Does Slash handle the sweep picking? The Better, IRS and some others songs of ChiDem, are played with sweep picking. Edited September 13, 2015 by ralebava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin' Cigarettes Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 If there ever is a reunion I guarantee you that they either A: Drop the CD stuff altogether and just play the classics or B: they have past & present members making cameo's when they play CD stuff.I'm just gonna tell you, Slash and Izzy aren't going to be playing CD solos and stuff. No way Izzy is going to sit down and learn those CD songs no matter how much of a fanboy you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasFnatic Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Hopefully not. Its supposed to be a return to greatness, not that crap era. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I think it might work to their advantage to go with a two drummer lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafeijo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 On a classic lineup reunion, I doubt very much they're gonna play post-1993 songs, but in case of Slash joining the current band, it's reasonable. (I'd love to see him playing TWAT solo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I love all of the guitar experts on here who say Slash can't play the Chi Dem material. Why couldn't he,if he took the time to learn the songs? He's been a professional musician for almost 30 years. I doubt Axl will drop the album entirely,especially because Dizzy (and possibly Fortus/Pitman) will still be around as a connection to that era. The initial shows would do great business with or without the CD songs and since the album means a lot to Axl ,I doubt he'd neglect it entirely to avoid upsetting a few nerds online. Songs like The Blues and CITR would fit right in alongside classic Illusions era tunes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 One stipulation in Axl's part of the contract states that every show must open with: Sorry, Madagascar, an explanation of the 'feud' [by Slash] clearing Axl of blame in the original break up, then Prostitute, before they play AFD in full [including the stage dive/riot part in Rocket Queen]. An insider told me so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Madagascar, TIL and SOD maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 One stipulation in Axl's part of the contract states that every show must open with: Sorry, Madagascar, an explanation of the 'feud' [by Slash] clearing Axl of blame in the original break up, then Prostitute, before they play AFD in full [including the stage dive/riot part in Rocket Queen]. An insider told me so.You just described my dream show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) I love all of the guitar experts on here who say Slash can't play the Chi Dem material. Why couldn't he,if he took the time to learn the songs? He's been a professional musician for almost 30 years. I doubt Axl will drop the album entirely,especially because Dizzy (and possibly Fortus/Pitman) will still be around as a connection to that era. The initial shows would do great business with or without the CD songs and since the album means a lot to Axl ,I doubt he'd neglect it entirely to avoid upsetting a few nerds online. Songs like The Blues and CITR would fit right in alongside classic Illusions era tunes.You don't need to be an expert to hear that what the guitarists (bumblefoot, buckethead) did is a level or two above anything Slash has ever put to record (we're not talking about anything but the technical side of playing, not good or bad etc). Slash is a brilliant player, but he doesn't have the same technique that is required to pull those parts off like the record... now! could he play something similar in a "Slash" way? yes! At 50 (ish) I can't imagine Slash sitting down learning how to sweep and tap, he's never been in to it and I think he's quite happy with his own style.If you know of a video or any recording that shows Slash playing at the same technical level as either player did on CD, I'll gladly watch it. Before we get bogged down in the "it's not all about technique" discussion, it isn't all about technique... but this particular discussion it is, as we're asking would Slash play the parts in a reunion scenario etc. As for a reunion tour having Chinese material? I would bet a lot that they would not be playing any CD material. Now, let's assume a reunion tour happens and they then decide to make a full album when they finish. I could then imagine them working a song maybe two from CD into the set. There's three issues - 1. the old line-ups back catalogue is what people really care about 2. Willingness of the rest of the band to play CD material 3. A set can only be so long, so if they play a CD song, what UYI, Lies, or AFD song are they cutting.For me I'd like to see some crossover, Better, Street of Dreams, This I love maybe even Chinese itself... obviously not all at once, but rotated on a nightly basis? yes. I hate when bands ignore the history of their bands "that 20 year period never happened, we only have 3 albums..." VH, Metallica (seem to be embracing load/reload a whole lot more these days, Thankfully) being examples of this, VH only playing DLR era VH, Metallica ignoring their 90s material for the guts of 10 years. Edited September 13, 2015 by Tom2112 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RnT Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 No, and that´s why Axl won´t do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakDown2014 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Slash can't play Shackler's Revenge's soloHe certainly could do great things with SOD, TIL and TWAT, at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 This I Love and If The World have potential to sound amazing with Slash playing them. If Fortus stays he could probably play solo's like TWAT and Shackler's. I think Axl would wanna keep at least 1-2 CD songs per show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walapino Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I hope they dont but im sure the original line up can do something like Street of Dreams or This I Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) They will play the songs, but slash will play the solos he way he wants to. Just like when he played crazy train with his band, he kept to he melody of he solo, but played it how he could want to. The way i see it (thinking of irs here) he keeps the solo starts out (the first bend, albeit eithout the octave pedal) its note progression and its ending. Amd instead of sweep picking, he noodles around the way he does on those parts.In the case of solos not his style at all (shacklers, possibly 2nd prostitute solo, riad, TWAT maybe but i could see him being able to play most of it) he ditches it completely and does his own solo Edited September 13, 2015 by Mendez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) If there ever is a reunion I guarantee you that they either A: Drop the CD stuff altogether and just play the classics or B: they have past & present members making cameo's when they play CD stuff.I'm just gonna tell you, Slash and Izzy aren't going to be playing CD solos and stuff. No way Izzy is going to sit down and learn those CD songs no matter how much of a fanboy you are.I don't know that it would be all that hard for Izzy to learn a song or 2. Not sure if you know this but he's "kinda good" at the guitar. I think we would hear shit from all of their out of band efforts, something from CD, something from VR, Something from Slash, and something from Izzy in addition to the old stuff.Not sure why that is hard to grasp for some people. They would be silly not to. Casual fans would think it was new material, hardcore fans would want to hear Slash's take on CD songs, or Axl's vocals on VR or Slash's stuff. It's a win/win.<Edit> Actually it is lose/lose at least here. If they play all old stuff it's a nostalgia act, if they incorporate a full on GnR spin on their separate projects then it's lame. So, haters are going to hate anything they do, fans are going to love whatever they do, it's that simple. Edited September 13, 2015 by DeadSlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockerRoller Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Hahaha so people honestly think izzy would consider playing any of that mostly garbage? Dudes come on itd be a reunion tour so they'd mostly likely just stick with the hits I doubt they'd play any velvet revolver or slash, duff, or izzy solo stuff. And chinese is pretty much axl solo stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IZZYISGNR Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Nobody cares about CD songs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jesus Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I think it might work to their advantage to go with a two drummer lineup.Nope.There is a reason why there is Pitman. He will opperate the Drum Machine and the Tamborine if Adler can't handle the drumming duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 If Axl and Slash ever appear onstage together, 99.99999999999% of the audience is there to relive the 80s and 90s.That does not include the giant shit-bomb that is ChiDem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 What Bucket riffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I can see maybe like a compromise sorta thing; like if they do a ChiDem song then they also do a VR song.If I had to pick a ChiDem song for Slash then I pick either Catcher or The Blues, cause I feel they both fit well with his music style (This I Love does too but that song is kinda boring and repetitive, especially compared to November Rain and Estranged, which would both definitely be on the set).Similarly, if I had to pick a VR song for Axl, Id go with Fall To Pieces, since it was originally intended to be a GNR song in the first place (Axl said so in the 2008 chats. Also in the Making of Estranged video from 1994 you can hear an early version of the riff with Axl whistling on top of it). I can also picture Axl singing Slither. Edited September 14, 2015 by rocknroll41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 If Izzy played Time Gone By and Shuffle it All with GNR that would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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