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Entertainer Sir Elton John is to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin over LGBT rights in Russia


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Hitler was talented too dont mean to say I'd go for a pint with him. Actually, thinking about it I probably would :lol:

*shakes his head* 6 million though man, fuck was you thinkin?

Ah, let me explain zee situation!

You can't mate, can't explain it, cant explain it at all!

Have zey forgotten?

What, Jews? Oh yeah, definitely, come, lets get the tube to Golders Green!

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His favourite film I've variously heard was either Battleship Potempkin or The Niebelungun (not sure i spelt that right at all!)

Lives of a Bengal Lancer (1935).

"I like this film because it depicted a handful of Britons holding a continent in thrall. That is how a superior race must behave and the film is a compulsory viewing for the SS."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_a_Bengal_Lancer_(film)

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Macho countries like Russia do not give a shit about gay rights. It is only pansy PC countries like Britain that do. Did you see Barrack Obama in some African country a few weeks ago - it may have been Ethiopia? He made a speech about Africa improving gay rights and the leader of this country completely contradicted him in his speech, saying ''we are a conservative christian country'' and do not really care about the subject basically. Obama looked a bit bemused.

Who are we to say what Russia and Uganda should do?

But when you ban love and label it mentally ill and a crime, then that's what all these talks are about.

Homosexuality will never be the same as heterosexuality. The fact is, two people of the opposite sex can procreate, two of the same never can. So while it may or may not be a mental illness, this obsession with equating it to heterosexuality is ridiculous.

Homosexuals get all the luck. They can fuck around and not risk knocking each other up.

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Macho countries like Russia do not give a shit about gay rights. It is only pansy PC countries like Britain that do. Did you see Barrack Obama in some African country a few weeks ago - it may have been Ethiopia? He made a speech about Africa improving gay rights and the leader of this country completely contradicted him in his speech, saying ''we are a conservative christian country'' and do not really care about the subject basically. Obama looked a bit bemused.

Indeed.

You can make laws where it's not OK to dislike/discriminate against gays but at the end of the day there is a hell of a lot of people who can't stand that shit, and making it illegal doesn't change their way of thinking.

At the end of the day, it boils down to one bloke fucking the other bloke in the ass and right or wrong some people just can't handle that.

Yet these intolerant pigs are shunned where you have 700 something rock chuckers trampled to death over some imaginary bullshit and anybody who dares question or ridicule their belief is persona non grata.

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I saw this vid on liveleak of these guys somewhere in africa, think it was Kenya, being set on fucking fire and massive jagged rocks being thrown at them as they burnt, they legged it with gasoline poured all over them, some bastard eventually got a match onto them and they were flailing around burning and just gave up after a minute, they were still smashing rocks on their heads as if they were trying to throw them through them into the depths of the earth, it was awful, their crime was being gay apparently.

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What effect does President Putin's diplomacy to the outside world do for Putin's policy in Russia? - Without being in tune with Russian media such as television, radio or internet.. I honestly have no clue/idea whatsoever, whether or not President Vladimir Putin listens or not.

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I saw this vid on liveleak of these guys somewhere in africa, think it was Kenya, being set on fucking fire and massive jagged rocks being thrown at them as they burnt, they legged it with gasoline poured all over them, some bastard eventually got a match onto them and they were flailing around burning and just gave up after a minute, they were still smashing rocks on their heads as if they were trying to throw them through them into the depths of the earth, it was awful, their crime was being gay apparently.

In some of these countries there is no prescedent to homosexuality? Certain places in Africa, Asia etc there just is no concept for that, I mean we're talking about places that are pretty sexually repressed in a sense even in terms of their responses to heterosexuality, they are a HELLUVA lot of social evolution away from being able to accept homosexuality as a concept, it's almost impossible to understand for them, there just are none in the typical sense of what we would understand a homosexual to be, i.e. grown consenting adults finding each other attractive.

However they do have the concept of fancying boys, but it's not like grown men, nobody wants to shag a bloke or have a relationship with a bloke, there's just no attraction there, it literally becomes boys. My personal theory is that the homosexual impulse is there in em but being able to have a relationship with a bloke is just so far from being anything that could possibly be a practiceable reality, coupled with their own repression what you're left with is these guys, especially in areas like Afghanistan etc that just fancy boys, young boys, 14/15 etc. In the lawless areas etc they actually marry these boys, have em on the side, like bitch boys or whatever, it's some crazy shit (and pretty specific to certain areas and rare).

So because of that the association with homosexuality on the parts of the general population of these countries becomes associated with pedophillia, thats the level that they see it on and how it is understood, like pederesty, because no ones going around at consenting age fancying other grown men, the only way it is understood in is as grown men that prey on vulnerable little boys...and thats how homosexuality is understood in a lot of these places, especially in places like Africa, many places of which just have no reference point for homosexuality whatsoever.

Its kinda like how in the old days, in the 40s/50s etc when being gay was illegal over here these guys would go to places like Shanghai and what have you cruising for boys...so they'd invariably be shagging these teenage boys abroad, not cuz they were nonces or on the noncey side of things it's just thats what was available if you like...see when the law and the resultant morality is crooked then it creates an imbalance in society that leads to real immorality and deviant behaviour, seriously deviant.

The point is in the same way where the truth of where we are at is unique and specific to a specific circumstance and cultural experience and has to be approached in a unique way, same applies for all these other countries too, they are best understood by a right minded educated few from within their own populations that know how best to approach their situation and get them to a place where they have a fair and decent society, it's not this across the board thing where whats right for America or England or Europe today is precisely the best thing for Africa, Asia etc today, the world just doesn't work like that.

Yes there should be equality, freedom of expression, the right to act as you wish as long as you're not trodding on no one but just as you don't give a man thats just come out of a 9 hour trek through the Sahara a jug of ice cold water right away, there is a specific tailored approach required for each culture that is best understood, concieved and implemented by the people from that culture, not Barack Obama flying over going 'hey you ignorant Asians and Africans, we just changed to doing it THIS-A way now, you have a fortnight to catch up before we start calling you cunts, buh bye!'.

Like I said earlier too, a lot of these places ain't got right with heterosexuality yet (shit, I'm not even sure we have!), there's places out there where women can't show their faces in public for crying out loud, accepting benders already is kinda putting the carts arse before the horses front, if that makes sense, they're a good century away from even being able to CONSIDER benders as a concept. I don't think our particular media driven commodifying of it is exactly the fast-track to a well adjusted society and/or a culture where gender relations are configured in some kind of healthy way. Letting Caitlyn Jenners rent-a-tits on the cover of Vanity Fair does not a just society make.

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