Gibbo Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) 1. Guns N' Roses - Chinese DemocracyThis album took 10 years to record (1997–2007).http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ug_news/top_20_hyped_albums_that_utterly_disappointed.html?no_takeover Edited November 9, 2015 by Gibbo 27
DieselDaisy Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It had to be a masterpiece because of the hype, gestation period and money invested, didn't it? It was a shock to the system to discover disposable numetal fodder like Scraped and Shackler's Revenge on there. ''This, was what Axl was working on, all this time?'' Total disbelief from yours truly! 1
Towelie Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It had to be a masterpiece because of the hype, gestation period and money invested, didn't it? It was a shock to the system to discover disposable numetal fodder like Scraped and Shackler's Revenge on there. ''This, was what Axl was working on, all this time?'' Total disbelief from yours truly!I love Shacklers Revenge and rate it in my top GNR songs of all time. I was not shocked to discover a song like that on the album, nor do I consider it disposable or numetal. 3
DieselDaisy Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It had to be a masterpiece because of the hype, gestation period and money invested, didn't it? It was a shock to the system to discover disposable numetal fodder like Scraped and Shackler's Revenge on there. ''This, was what Axl was working on, all this time?'' Total disbelief from yours truly!I love Shacklers Revenge and rate it in my top GNR songs of all time. I was not shocked to discover a song like that on the album, nor do I consider it disposable or numetal.Well then we differ. I cannot find a redeeming quality about the song and certainly believe it comes influenced by numetal, case in point, Which possesses the exact same riff as 'Shackler's Revenge'.
RussTCB Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 While I love the album myself, I do agree that it could be considered the biggest disappointment of all time for many reasons. I wish the article went into more detail than just "It took 10 years". Yes, that's ONE of the reasons but it's certainly not the only one. It just seems lazy to me to leave the whole saga to just that sentence.
MrSoftie Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I've never heard the similarity with that Korn song.
DieselDaisy Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It is the exact same riff! The riff that begins 0:02 (there are a couple of seconds of clanking drums first) on the Korn song is the same riff that begins 0:00 on 'Shackler's Revenge'! It is as obvious as day and night.
maynard Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Schaklers is heavily influenced by Korn. Sounds almost like a ripoff except for the random notes bumble plays where it was supposed to be a solo.
NicoRourke Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 While I love the album myself, I do agree that it could be considered the biggest disappointment of all time for many reasons. I wish the article went into more detail than just "It took 10 years". Yes, that's ONE of the reasons but it's certainly not the only one. It just seems lazy to me to leave the whole saga to just that sentence. I agree with the fact that resuming the journey to one simple sentence about the time it took is beyond ridiculous.The problem with this kind of things is it will further fuel the haters.I for one don't think the album is a disappointment. It's the GNR record that I prefer AND it's one of my favorite record.
gnrjanus Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It is an album that I thought was brilliant. It has it's up and downs. But it's an Axl album and gnr album. Its new and fresh and both old and classic.It has it's flaws. Scraped, I do like the ending guitarriff. That just rocks. And shackler's live is a beast of a song!Catcher has too many layers just break it down and it's a solid track. I.r.s doesn't do it for me. Though the live version totaly kicks balls!And im a fan of chidem and Better just good ol rock songs
Słash Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 ATS sucked big time, many people were waiting for it, I was pretty disappointed. Living things was just ok.
Little EMO Annie Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I love Chinese democracy. I even bought 30 copies of the CD at Best Buy to give as gifts to friiendsand coworkers. They all liked it. and they were not diehard GNR fans by any means. I like every song. Madgascar, Better and This I love and There was a time, Sorry, chinese Democracy, CITR are my favs
maynard Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I hate Chinese Democracy. I haven't even bought a copy of it but got one from a friend. All my friends dislike it, and they are diehard GNR fans. I dislike almost every song. Shaklers, If the World, Scrapd, This I love and IRS are the most pathetic.
BangoSkank Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 While I love the album myself, I do agree that it could be considered the biggest disappointment of all time for many reasons. I wish the article went into more detail than just "It took 10 years". Yes, that's ONE of the reasons but it's certainly not the only one. It just seems lazy to me to leave the whole saga to just that sentence. In all of the write-ups I've seen they rarely mention anything besides the length of time it took (which is a drag, because it has a really rich and interesting back story).It's also just cool to bash CD and New Guns, so unfortunately most music blogs and articles will do that to seem hip.One of the most honest articles I saw on it was actually by Chuck klosterman who ended by saying: "Axl Rose put so much time and effort into proving that he was super-talented that the rest of humanity forgot he always had been. And that will hurt him. This record may tank commercially. Some people will slaughter Chinese Democracy, and for all the reasons you expect. But he did a good thing here."
Gackt Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I liked itWhat more could people expect from Guns post-Illusions? The sound of ChiDem was clearly where the band was progressing anyway, Slash himself said the album sounded exactly like he expected with Axl's songwriting
Billsfan Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I loved it but it's tough to argue that it lived up to expectations. No matter how good it sounded waiting the years they did to release it was one of the biggest killers as far as helping the album..I feel like this conversation has been had before..
DieselDaisy Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I love Chinese democracy. I even bought 30 copies of the CD at Best Buy to give as gifts to friiendsand coworkers. They all liked it. and they were not diehard GNR fans by any means. I like every song. Madgascar, Better and This I love and There was a time, Sorry, chinese Democracy, CITR are my favsYou're an one of them, are you? I made a post awhile back describing what I perceive to be a trait among Axl die hards which entails, buying up multiple copies of Chinese Democracy and handing them out to various people. I find it strange behaviour. Edited November 9, 2015 by DieselDaisy
Little EMO Annie Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I love Chinese democracy. I even bought 30 copies of the CD at Best Buy to give as gifts to friiendsand coworkers. They all liked it. and they were not diehard GNR fans by any means. I like every song. Madgascar, Better and This I love and There was a time, Sorry, chinese Democracy, CITR are my favsYou're an one of them, are you? I made a post awhile back describing what I perceive to be a trait among Axl die hards which entails, buying up multiple copies of Chinese Democracy and handing them out to various people. I find it strange behaviour. Why? I called it Christmas shopping? Edited November 9, 2015 by Little EMO Annie
maynard Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It's also just cool to bash CD and New Gunslol.
moreblack Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Well deserved too.I think Slash said in an interview before the album came out something like he wanted to hear CD to understand what was so important to Axl, that he felt was wroth breaking up the original band.I think everyone that's heard it can categorically say that no, it wasn't worth it. Edited November 9, 2015 by moreblack
BangoSkank Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 It's also just cool to bash CD and New Gunslol.It is, braaaah.
Little EMO Annie Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Well deserved too.I think Slash said in an interview before the album came out something like he wanted to hear CD to understand what was so important to Axl, that he felt was wroth breaking up the original band.I think everyone that's heard it can categorically say that no, it wasn't worth it.I don't think so. That is a very simplistic statement. and not true.
Mr. Dude Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I love Chinese democracy. I even bought 30 copies of the CD at Best Buy to give as gifts to friiendsand coworkers. They all liked it. and they were not diehard GNR fans by any means. I like every song. Madgascar, Better and This I love and There was a time, Sorry, chinese Democracy, CITR are my favsYou're an one of them, are you? I made a post awhile back describing what I perceive to be a trait among Axl die hards which entails, buying up multiple copies of Chinese Democracy and handing them out to various people. I find it strange behaviour. I do this too. I'm thinking of buying a case and sending them to random people for the holidays. You want one?
Mr. Dude Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I love Chinese democracy. I even bought 30 copies of the CD at Best Buy to give as gifts to friiendsand coworkers. They all liked it. and they were not diehard GNR fans by any means. I like every song. Madgascar, Better and This I love and There was a time, Sorry, chinese Democracy, CITR are my favsEveryone I know liked it once they got past their conditioned resistance to it. Once you get past the anti-Axl propaganda its a true blue, undeniably full-blown masterpiece.
Little EMO Annie Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I love Chinese democracy. I even bought 30 copies of the CD at Best Buy to give as gifts to friiendsand coworkers. They all liked it. and they were not diehard GNR fans by any means. I like every song. Madgascar, Better and This I love and There was a time, Sorry, chinese Democracy, CITR are my favsEveryone I know liked it once they got past their conditioned resistance to it. Once you get past the anti-Axl propaganda its a true blue, undeniably full-blown masterpiece.My sentiments exactly..I love Chinese democracy. I even bought 30 copies of the CD at Best Buy to give as gifts to friiendsand coworkers. They all liked it. and they were not diehard GNR fans by any means. I like every song. Madgascar, Better and This I love and There was a time, Sorry, chinese Democracy, CITR are my favsYou're an one of them, are you? I made a post awhile back describing what I perceive to be a trait among Axl die hards which entails, buying up multiple copies of Chinese Democracy and handing them out to various people. I find it strange behaviour. I do this too. I'm thinking of buying a case and sending them to random people for the holidays. You want one?that is very kind but most of my music is on my iphone these days. Edited November 9, 2015 by Little EMO Annie
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