ChineseIRS Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't get all the cash grab talk - it will be fun for everyone. So much love will be felt in the stadium. What's wrong with that?I don't think anyone has anything against a reunion as such, it is the potential end of any prospect of new music that disappoints people, and also teh attachment some people have to newGN'R.But if I were to choose between NOTHING happening and Axl, Slash and Duff doing nostalgia tours, then I would surely prefer the latter. It is better than nothing. And it may very well be that what we get is all there is and that anything else was nothing but a pipedream.I think theres more of a chance of Slash lighting a fire under Axls ass to make new music than anyone from the last 19 years...I really feel that Axl hasnt been truly inspired since Slash left in '96 and thats why we've only gotten one album in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Maybe I'm delusional here, but I don't think it's solely about the money. These guys walked away from being on top after fighting so hard to get there. I'm sure that despite the years of comments to the tune of "we were a great band but that's in the past. my focus is on Loaded, VR, Snakepit, etc.", these guys all wish they would have done more to keep the band together. Especially Axl. Every time they hear Welcome to the Jungle when a game is on TV, they've got to be proud of the legacy they left behind and they wonder what would have happened if they never went their separate ways. This is their chance to give it a second try and remind the world how great they really are/were. Only they can save rock n roll...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltzy Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Of fucking course it is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Men nearing retirement age.... offer to make Millions upon millions. You do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodine Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 LOL there's no way I'll be able to enjoy this knowing they're being paid to do it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 LOL there's no way I'll be able to enjoy this knowing they're being paid to do it!How outrageous they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Not sure how much of a successful cash grab this is going to shape up to be. Really surprised how quickly the speculations have dropped on social media, Guns stopped trending on my twitter at mid day. maybe I am more of a fan than I thought I was? it's just GnR is so recognisable across the board, I would expect more of a buzz outside the dedicated fan forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Yep, it's kinda arrogant to schedule a stadium tour for a band that should have reunited years ago. Axl is way past his prime and he'll have to be careful not to jeopardize the entire tour with late starts or pathetic performances. People still care about gnr but I think it's a little too late for the reunion to make a big impact. If Axl kicks ass and they somehow release new music again one day, then I'd say it's more than money. Right now it seems Axl got tired of playing casinos and decided money is more important than bitterness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Of course it is a cashgrab. But what is worse: It is some aging rockers who reunite despite the animosity between them and the words that have been said that it won't happen, while being applauded by deluded fans who pathetically want to relive their youth and/or experience something that once was but can never happen again. Not only does such a corporate, cynical reunion threaten to tarnish the memories of the band in its prime, it is also probably the end of the band as a creative entitity and signifies that no new music will ever be released. This is the absolute lowest point in the history of GN'R, and the culimination of recent years of steady decline -- and as such I guess it was as expected.I LOVE the fact you're pissed off about this. Your entire post makes you look likea complete fool. The nonsense you spew is so over the top it's embarassing. Even for you. I'm so happy clowns like you are pissed off about this. All you do is expose what fake GnR fans you are. A reunion ends the band as a creative entity? Seriously dude the band as a creative entity died in 1996 and if you think otherwise you need to get off the internet and go get seom fresh air for real. Is it not possible to disagree with someone graciously, without being horribly obnoxious to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Of course it is a cashgrab. But what is worse: It is some aging rockers who reunite despite the animosity between them and the words that have been said that it won't happen, while being applauded by deluded fans who pathetically want to relive their youth and/or experience something that once was but can never happen again. Not only does such a corporate, cynical reunion threaten to tarnish the memories of the band in its prime, it is also probably the end of the band as a creative entitity and signifies that no new music will ever be released. This is the absolute lowest point in the history of GN'R, and the culimination of recent years of steady decline -- and as such I guess it was as expected.I LOVE the fact you're pissed off about this. Your entire post makes you look likea complete fool. The nonsense you spew is so over the top it's embarassing. Even for you. I'm so happy clowns like you are pissed off about this. All you do is expose what fake GnR fans you are. A reunion ends the band as a creative entity? Seriously dude the band as a creative entity died in 1996 and if you think otherwise you need to get off the internet and go get seom fresh air for real. Is it not possible to disagree with someone graciously, without being horribly obnoxious to them?U2 fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Of course it is a cashgrab. But what is worse: It is some aging rockers who reunite despite the animosity between them and the words that have been said that it won't happen, while being applauded by deluded fans who pathetically want to relive their youth and/or experience something that once was but can never happen again. Not only does such a corporate, cynical reunion threaten to tarnish the memories of the band in its prime, it is also probably the end of the band as a creative entitity and signifies that no new music will ever be released. This is the absolute lowest point in the history of GN'R, and the culimination of recent years of steady decline -- and as such I guess it was as expected.I LOVE the fact you're pissed off about this. Your entire post makes you look likea complete fool. The nonsense you spew is so over the top it's embarassing. Even for you. I'm so happy clowns like you are pissed off about this. All you do is expose what fake GnR fans you are. A reunion ends the band as a creative entity? Seriously dude the band as a creative entity died in 1996 and if you think otherwise you need to get off the internet and go get seom fresh air for real.Is it not possible to disagree with someone graciously, without being horribly obnoxious to them?U2 fan. Of course it is a cashgrab. But what is worse: It is some aging rockers who reunite despite the animosity between them and the words that have been said that it won't happen, while being applauded by deluded fans who pathetically want to relive their youth and/or experience something that once was but can never happen again. Not only does such a corporate, cynical reunion threaten to tarnish the memories of the band in its prime, it is also probably the end of the band as a creative entitity and signifies that no new music will ever be released. This is the absolute lowest point in the history of GN'R, and the culimination of recent years of steady decline -- and as such I guess it was as expected.I LOVE the fact you're pissed off about this. Your entire post makes you look likea complete fool. The nonsense you spew is so over the top it's embarassing. Even for you. I'm so happy clowns like you are pissed off about this. All you do is expose what fake GnR fans you are. A reunion ends the band as a creative entity? Seriously dude the band as a creative entity died in 1996 and if you think otherwise you need to get off the internet and go get seom fresh air for real.Is it not possible to disagree with someone graciously, without being horribly obnoxious to them?U2 fan. Cough... roids..cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience 4 Axl Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Didn't read the thread but I'm sure it's been brought up numerous times that any artist who tours is doing it for the money honey. There's not much coin in album sales anymore. Besides, can't say I care even one tiny little bit if it's a cash grab or not. I'm just thrilled it's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I've removed a few posts, please take personal arguments to pm's and keep it out of this thread. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericy210 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 If it is a stadium tour, I would presume there are reasonable seats. I like the option of paying $275 for a better seat. If that's what it takes to motivate them and the army of agents and support, God bless them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I'm just a little disappointed that after all these years of Axl pursuing his vision to the point of utter insanity, he's (most likely) closing the book on this band with a cash grab reunion. What I'm hoping for is that maybe some sort of creativity and music comes out of it again, if it's gonna happen at all. Either way it'll still be cool as fuck to actually see these dudes perform on stage together again for the first time since I was in fucking diapers.Man, even you're (kinda) on board with this, same as GNR_1991 and a lot of the other guys I've always thought were on the level... I think I must be the only one left who would actually rather the band just ended than went down this path.Feels like trying to canoe up the Niagara Falls.Honestly, it's because I've lost pretty much all interest I've ever had in this band to begin with at this point. At one point, they were the band that helped me discover my love for music. But after all of these years of endless touring with worsening vocals, greatest hits setlists, no new music anywhere in sight...even if it's a cash grab, it's at least a better way to send the band off than for it to just fizzle out after another Vegas residency, at least in my eyes. If the script was flipped and Axl intended to make new music with the band he has/had, or put out the CD leftovers, my tune would be different.Yeah, I think the thing I'm most disappointed about is the way the wheels just fell off the whole thing... 2006-2010, I was totally invested in all things Guns N' Roses, I would travel hundreds of miles on my own to see them and never feel it was anything other than the best use of my money ever. I was on here pretty much every day, waiting for news, getting involved in the discussion.Just because I don't want a reunion to happen doesn't mean that I think 2010-2015 has been anywhere near as good as 2006-2010... More that it's been a slow, lingering process of decay which I ultimately became totally disillusioned with, to the point where I've hardly posted in D&N in the last two years. I can't believe Axl went to such an effort to put this thing together and defy everyone and everything, only to apathetically let it die without any justification.I hate this idea more and more with every passing day, and the complete mindless adulation that goes with it.But if you had the option of this or... No GnR anymore? Because that could very well be the possibility.For everyone else, this seems to be some sort of shot at redemption. For me, it's just the final disappointment that the band I spent so much energy supporting when I was a teenager is dead without having achieved what it should have. Between this and no GNR anymore, it's more or less the same thing from my perspective.The only additional factor with this outcome is this:One of my biggest pet hates is when people work hard and do their best, with their best intentions, and other people throw it back in their faces. That's what I feel is happening to the guys who've come in and given their all over the last 15+ years. For some fans, they were damned before they even played a note, and these people dedicated so much time and effort to just tearing them down. Seeing a lot of them being such bad winners is annoying enough, but then for all the people who actually were on board during the CD era, who went to the shows, who enjoyed the album etc. to be celebrating the guys who made it possible being put out of a job and their best efforts written off as some sort of 'mistake' which needs 'put right'?I find that repellent. Those guys played the best rock n' roll shows I've ever seen, I feel like I owe them a bit of loyalty when everyone else has turned their backs without a second thought. Edited December 31, 2015 by Graeme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Here's the thing;Who the fuck cares if it's a "cash grab"?? If that matters to you, then vote with your wallet and don't go to a show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jesus Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Here's the thing;Who the fuck cares if it's a "cash grab"?? If that matters to you, then vote with your wallet and don't go to a show. Supply and Demand... At it's finest. That is how the world makes money.... and keeps people employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Here's the thing;Who the fuck cares if it's a "cash grab"?? If that matters to you, then vote with your wallet and don't go to a show. Supply and Demand... At it's finest. That is how the world makes money.... and keeps people employed.Right, but if there are any fans who are so concerned with the #integrity of this tour, then they're always welcome to just not attend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 3 Million a show, and 25+ stadium shows...Then what? Sail off into retirement?Axl Needs cash, Slash and Duff most likely don't, they work constantly.This kind of makes me feel sick.Its against EVERYTHING the band most of us knew and loved stood for.There won't be new music, just the Hits.Hey, where have we seen that before?If you're gonna generate A LOT, you better be paid what you're worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanudo19 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Axle finally stopped fighting the world and is doing what everyone else wants for a change.this is the problem, sellint out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Axle finally stopped fighting the world and is doing what everyone else wants for a change. this is the problem, sellint outNot really. It is his life and his career. If he wants to tour with guys from his old band - why not. If the demand is there and the fellas want to do it, then more power to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It seems to me Axl has given up now, and this will be the conclusion of GN'R. A last farewell, a closure and finally giving the fans what they want. A bit sad, because I always want more, but kind of nice, too. Exciting at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 How anybody could label this a cash grab when we've just come off 5 years of Axl having a trans sexual Slash impersonator blunder his way through a 4/5ths Slash era setlist is beyond me.The time to be upset that New GNR failed was when Bucket and then Robin finally left.09-14 was the fucking clown show, and the very definition of a cash grab. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jesus Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Here's the thing;Who the fuck cares if it's a "cash grab"?? If that matters to you, then vote with your wallet and don't go to a show. Supply and Demand... At it's finest. That is how the world makes money.... and keeps people employed.Right, but if there are any fans who are so concerned with the #integrity of this tour, then they're always welcome to just not attend it.Artist that are 100% concerned with integrity are playing on street corners and living on the streets. In other words, Integrity is coded language for didn't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Here's the thing;Who the fuck cares if it's a "cash grab"?? If that matters to you, then vote with your wallet and don't go to a show. Supply and Demand... At it's finest. That is how the world makes money.... and keeps people employed.Right, but if there are any fans who are so concerned with the #integrity of this tour, then they're always welcome to just not attend it.Artist that are 100% concerned with integrity are playing on street corners and living on the streets. In other words, Integrity is coded language for didn't make it.Integrity is easy for GNR to get. Just release new fucking music. It really isn't that hard or complicated. Regardless of whether Axl is touring with Ron and DJ or Slash and Izzy, he's still trotting out the same tired songs that we've all seen and heard a trillion times, going through the motions etc. Until such a time as they record new material and tour it then they are just milking the cash cow. Art hasn't got anything to do with it anymore, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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