smoking guns Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 He is a professional drummer, with practice he CAN play UYI material and probably most of CD for that matter. AFD drums are harder than much of UYI... Don't Cry was written with Adler in the band. Easy drums. Same with NR and Estranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bacardimayne Posted December 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2015 no one's questioning whether or not he could play sorum's complex drum fillsthey're questioning whether or not he could do a reunion tour without dying/compromising the tour 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) He is a professional drummer, with practice he CAN play UYI material and probably most of CD for that matter. AFD drums are harder than much of UYI... Don't Cry was written with Adler in the band. Easy drums. Same with NR and Estranged.He wrote 99% of UYI material.no one's questioning whether or not he could play sorum's complex drum fillsthey're questioning whether or not he could do a reunion tour without dying/compromising the tourPretty much, yes. Edited December 31, 2015 by 31illusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoking guns Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 I agree with that fellas! But I have also read "Adler can only knows AFD" "Can't play UYI or CD material". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think it would be a kind gesture to have him come in and do a couple songs, fuck even one song here or there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I agree with that fellas! But I have also read "Adler can only knows AFD" "Can't play UYI or CD material".Obviously he could learn the songs and play them adequately.The issue is, some of those songs wouldn't really benefit from his trademark sleazy, swingy 80s sound. Could he switch it up? Maybe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOS--LOA Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 He is a professional drummer, with practice he CAN play UYI material and probably most of CD for that matter. AFD drums are harder than much of UYI... Don't Cry was written with Adler in the band. Easy drums. Same with NR and Estranged.He wrote 99% of UYI material. no one's questioning whether or not he could play sorum's complex drum fillsthey're questioning whether or not he could do a reunion tour without dying/compromising the tourPretty much, yes.He did not write 99% of UYI material. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateRadio Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Hey I thought this bad was dangerous?? Axl and Slash is a huge get, but the Egyptians started with the foundation when they build the pyramids. Alder in - full time - for as long as he can go! If he screws up, Sorum fills in. Easy easy fix. Been done before. This is how it should be. Not one fan should disagree or argue about it. Both drummers would sign up for it in a heartbeat. If Steven exceeds expectations and is pulling it of, bring in Matt to play some songs each night on a regular basis. After all, it's his drums we hear on 30 recorded songs.If the greatest rock band since the 70s, with the greatest singer since the 70s, and the greatest guitar player since the 70s can't pull this off, then they should be embarrassed to tour using the name Guns N' Fucking Roses!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonsaul Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 If they do LA show(s) then invite him up, or let him do a number of songs or a full AFD set.IMO he isn't needed in a reunion, and would be more of a risk than anything else both with his state of mind/being as well as his potential impact on Slash/Axl - imagine the amount of crap Steven will sprout to anyone and everyone who will listen and take an interview.......he'd pretty much embarrass himself and the band over time even if he stays clean and plays relatively well. The guy is like an excitable young kid who has drunk too much soda and eaten way too much candy, never seems to think before he speaks or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Steven's enthusiasm for GNR is great. He loves that band so much. Frank is okay but he knows he'll never be considered a GNR member. Can't blame him though for taking the gig and the paycheck. Adler deserves to be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Macaroni Incident? Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'm going to feel bad for Adler if he isn't part of the reunion. I hope the rest of the guys aren't that heartless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 i really hope its the five guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 He's definitely in the loop. There's no way he'd be silent otherwise. Even if it's just guest spots. Sadly, though, in the here and now I think he's the weakest choice of the three for a tour of this nature. Those drum cam videos he put up were merely adequate for gigs at that level. And that was just AFD tracks. I can't see him playing UYI parts on a stadium tour. The rest of the band couldn't see that first time around.Maybe they should do what Smashing Pumpkins did in the last 90s and use three drummers at once! Frank is now the GNR drummer I enjoy most and I'd like to hear him on Double Talkin' Jive and Locomotive too.So whoever loses, we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyhell1 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I really hope alders is apart of this even if its a couple of songs. I couldnt imagine what it would do to him mentally if he was left out entirely. Hes a bad ass drummer would love to hear his take on yhe illusion stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerOne 84 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I have no doubt that Adler can play the songs. I just wonder if the people writing the checks are willing to put the tour in Adler's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 no one's questioning whether or not he could play sorum's complex drum fillsthey're questioning whether or not he could do a reunion tour without dying/compromising the tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Yep, the question is not whether he can play. It is everything else. I am going to wager a guess that the trio are steering clear of includng him for the same reason they have all avoided hiring him for the past 20 years for their various projects. Edited January 1, 2016 by stella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrjanus Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Well since a lit of the uyi stuff was written halfway the 80's I would bet there are versions out there with adler on drums.We know how he sounded on locomotive.But true point. It's whether he survives it all and shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Macaroni Incident? Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 What all UYI songs do we have recordings of with Adler?- Dust N' Bones- Don't Cry- Back Off Bitch- Garden of Eden- Don't Damn Me- Civil War- Knockin' On Heaven's Door- LocomotiveAnything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 What all UYI songs do we have recordings of with Adler?- Dust N' Bones- Don't Cry- Back Off Bitch- Garden of Eden- Don't Damn Me- Civil War- Knockin' On Heaven's Door- LocomotiveAnything else?You Could Be Mine (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpax Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 He is a professional drummer, with practice he CAN play UYI material and probably most of CD for that matter. AFD drums are harder than much of UYI... Don't Cry was written with Adler in the band. Easy drums. Same with NR and Estranged.interesting stuff. these 4 songs sound so much rougher and more appetite like....dust n bones f.ex. is so boring on uyi...and here it sounds so bluesy and dirty...with a more aggressive voice of axl it could have been a cool song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Macaroni Incident? Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Is this real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 If the are going to do it, Steven should be involved in some way. I say just make it his job to lose.. If he fucks it up, they have plenty of people that could jump right in and take the seat. I bet he would do just fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 If the are going to do it, Steven should be involved in some way. I say just make it his job to lose.. If he fucks it up, they have plenty of people that could jump right in and take the seat. I bet he would do just fine though.im pretty much of the same ruthless thinking provided how fucking good he was just listening to that clip as i have never heard of this all time most telling GNR gem personifying duff's claim to him and steven's jam sense and influences to the 70's disco funk sound via cameo and prince man use your illusion would've been 100 times better had steven made it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 There is too much at stake on this tour for a liability like Steven. Don't blame the band, he is the one who put himself in the position where his ex - colleagues don't want to work with him again (and have not for all these years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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