dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 GNR is from the US and they began their career here, so it's only right they do US cities on their reunion tour. I'm sure they will tour the rest of the world too. Just be patient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBucky Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 21 hours ago, Original said: Guns always kicked ass in the US. Nu Guns played to half empty arenas in US. It's a no-brainer for them to tour the US 1st...they'll sell out everywhere with Slash, (he's that good)! I keep reading these posts about how Axl's band struggled and played to half empty arena's. I know i live in the third biggest market in the States and shows usually do well here, but did the tours struggle that bad? He sold out Allstate Arena in 02 and 06 and had to put some nosebleeds on Groupon for the '11 show. How bad were the smaller markets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 10 hours ago, Iron MikeyJ said: Lol @ fill SOCCER stadiums in the US. Come on Wasted, you know better than that. They are playing BASEBALL and FOOTBALL stadiums, not SOCCER. I also have to lol at this question. Really??? An American band choosing to tour it's gone country before going to South America... How bizare. Chinese Democracy era GNR seemed to dodge the US until 2010? They started a few tours in Asia? It's soccer, Mike Pizza of the New York Cardinals will back me up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 3 hours ago, GoBucky said: I keep reading these posts about how Axl's band struggled and played to half empty arena's. I know i live in the third biggest market in the States and shows usually do well here, but did the tours struggle that bad? He sold out Allstate Arena in 02 and 06 and had to put some nosebleeds on Groupon for the '11 show. How bad were the smaller markets? In detroit there was a tarp over the upper bowl in 2011. Happens to other artists too, show was still great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Again they couldn't headline festivals in the US or play soccer stadiums. AFD was LA. UYI was USA. CD was international. I know tgat some will say AFD UYI were more international but the theme of CD is dictators, don't think most Americans feel that oppressed. UYI is great material to tour stadiums in the US. Metal anthems, Elton ballads, Stonesy rockers. "It's tha unit ain't nothin' change" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjflyer Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 This reminds me of countless threads started by Europeans on the Springsteen BTX forum. Whenever a US tour leg is announced first it's "Why won't he play Europe right now? We sell out the most stadiums." I get the point and they always end up in Europe but I feel like the posters forget these guys are Americans. They want to achieve success in America as their #1 goal. With Slash and Duff back, just as other posters here said, they do it because they can. itll get to Europe but these guys are Americans so it's happening in America first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Let's not forget Slash and Duff aren't headlining huge festivals on their own now, not even RIR. But with Guns Slash can connect with big festivals in the US and the rest of world. There's window here to be big again for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 8 hours ago, GoBucky said: I keep reading these posts about how Axl's band struggled and played to half empty arena's. I know i live in the third biggest market in the States and shows usually do well here, but did the tours struggle that bad? He sold out Allstate Arena in 02 and 06 and had to put some nosebleeds on Groupon for the '11 show. How bad were the smaller markets? Propaganda. Just about all full. Not sell outs but making money but nothing like this reunion with sell outs and people buying 2,500 tickets. Guns need to go out on top. It just feels better all round. But this need to for new Guns to completely fail is a little unecessary isnt it. but this is america if you don't make money youre a douchebag, so what you going to do? Make more money? There you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 8 hours ago, GoBucky said: I keep reading these posts about how Axl's band struggled and played to half empty arena's. I know i live in the third biggest market in the States and shows usually do well here, but did the tours struggle that bad? He sold out Allstate Arena in 02 and 06 and had to put some nosebleeds on Groupon for the '11 show. How bad were the smaller markets? I could find the numbers for 2014 & 2012 Las Vegas shows, but no other shows for the U.S. I also found the numbers for the Latin American shows- Latin America (from billboard chart 5/22/2014): Rank Artist/Event Venue City/State Event Dates Gross Sales Attend/Capacity Shows/Sellouts 4 Guns N' Roses Arena Anhembi Sao Paulo, Brazil 28-Mar-14 $2,090,395 18,000 / 35000 1 / 0 9 Guns N' Roses Esplanada do Mineirao Belo Horizonte, Brazil 22-Mar-14 $1,404,427 16,342 / 25000 1 / 0 12 Guns N' Roses Estadio Durival Britto Silva Curitiba, Brazil 30-Mar-14 $1,271,180 11,180 /20000 1 / 0 13 Guns N' Roses Centro de Eventos do C Fortaleza, Brazil 17-Apr-14 $1,264,417 14,570 /15000 1 / 0 15 Guns N' Roses Pavilhao da FIERGS Porto Alegre, Brazil 3-Apr-14 $1,198,083 12,197 /12197 1 / 1 16 Guns N' Roses Chevrolet Hall Recife, Brazil 15-Apr-14 $1,180,640 10,630 / 12000 1 / 0 17 Guns N' Roses Estadio de Ferrocarril Buenos Aires, Argentina 6-Apr-14 $1,161,415 16,525 /24659 1 / 0 20 Guns N' Roses Devassa On Stage Florianopolis, Brazil 1-Apr-14 $1,021,262 9,902 /11100 1 / 0 21 Guns N' Roses HSBC Arena Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 20-Mar-14 $963,193 10,425 /12928 1 / 0 22 Guns N' Roses Ginasio Nilson Nelson Brasilia, Brazil 25-Mar-14 $848,744 10,843 /12000 1 / 0 23 Guns N' Roses Jockey Club Asuncion, Paraguay 9-Apr-14 $646,323 11,232 /30000 1 / 0 24 Guns N' Roses Estadio Hernando Sile La Paz, Bolivia 12-Apr-14 $643,560 12,000 /30000 1 / 0 Las Vegas 2012 (from billboard chart 11/09/2012): Rank Artist/Event Venue City/State Event Dates Gross Sales Attend/Capacity Shows/Sellouts 27 Guns N' Roses The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas, Nev. Oct. 31, Nov. 2-3, 2012 775,119 8,387/9,839 3/0 Las Vegas 2012 (from billboard chart 11/11/2012) Rank Artist/Event Venue City/State Event Dates Gross Sales Attend/Capacity Shows/Sellouts 27 Guns N' Roses The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas, Nev. Nov. 14, 17-18, 2012 $790,032 8,506/9,743 3/1 Las Vegas 2012 (from billboard chart 11/29/2012) Rank Artist/Event Venue City/State Event Dates Gross Sales Attend/Capacity Shows/Sellouts 12 Guns N' Roses The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas, Nev. Nov. 21, 23-24, 2012 713,735 7,969/9,241 3/1 Las Vegas 2014 (from billboard chart 6/11/2014) Rank Artist/Event Venue City/State Event Dates Gross Sales Attend/Capacity Shows/Sellouts 44 Guns N' Roses The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas, Nev. June 4, 6-7, 2014 $853,785 9,221 /10,130 3 / 2 53 Guns N' Roses The Joint, Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas, Nev. May 28, 30-31, 2014 $739,534 8,021 /9,449 3 / 0 Billboard numbers were found from the WebSite from Billboards charts page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, wasted said: Propaganda. Just about all full. Not sell outs but making money but nothing like this reunion with sell outs and people buying 2,500 tickets. Guns need to go out on top. It just feels better all round. But this need to for new Guns to completely fail is a little unecessary isnt it. but this is america if you don't make money youre a douchebag, so what you going to do? Make more money? There you go! They weren't exactly doing awful, but not what they once were. Especially as they hadn't had any new music for a decade and sucked at promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 2 hours ago, sanity_lost said: They weren't exactly doing awful, but not what they once were. Especially as they hadn't had any new music for a decade and sucked at promotion. Some of that was just the times. They were lucky to be able to tour. But Axl is a great frontman. They were kind of lucky when the thing became touring focused with nostalgia rock bands being profitable - they could do that. Even the Best Buy deal was a little lucky. As in the problems could be spun into a mysterious most anticipated thing. But without the deal it was probably not getting released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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