Nice Boy Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Something I have thought about the song November Rain: I think it would have been better if Axl had used his softer voice at the beginning, the same voice as in the beginning of Patience and Don't Cry. I'm a lover of rasp, but can't help feeling that when used on the opening of NR it just sounds too harsh/whiney for a love ballad (especially live.) I would say: let's hear it with the soft voice at the beginning, then at the end "dontcha know you need somebody" he could still rasp it up. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINGTRADER Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 No. His vocals on NR were appropriate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Boy Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 ok That's me told, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 More rasp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: More rasp! Like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, tsinindy said: Like that? like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 6 hours ago, SWINGTRADER said: No. His vocals on NR were appropriate. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Fan Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I love his new way of singing the end. When he takes it up another octave with that rasp it's amazing! So much emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I like it as it is in November Rain but Axl has a really beautiful voice, very unique so it's good even when he doesn't use rasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 So this is better than this? Or equal to vocally according to this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illusionone Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: So this is better than this? Or equal to vocally according to this thread The 2006 version, at least based on the clips in this thread is the best vocally IMO- note, I only listened to the first verse in each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, illusionone said: The 2006 version, at least based on the clips in this thread is the best vocally IMO- note, I only listened to the first verse in each. All 10 min are better in 06...November Rain sounds great with a lower rasp vocally...it sounds weak and like Axl can't keep up with the verses when he sings it with a higher falsetto vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 19 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: So this is better than this? Or equal to vocally according to this thread I need to find my nice headphones back. I misplaced them yesterday. My crappy laptop speakers makes it sound like Axl is trying to sing through frozen/paralyzed vocal chords in the second video. It has no dynamic and is weird. Axl always has a dynamic voice even in those UYI shows when it sounded like he painfully gargling with broken glass. With crappy laptop speakers and no earbuds or headphones handy to listen to it better I would say the first video, Vegas is better. If I listen to it again with better hardware I may have a different opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, sanity_lost said: I need to find my nice headphones back. I misplaced them yesterday. My crappy laptop speakers makes it sound like Axl is trying to sing through frozen/paralyzed vocal chords in the second video. It has no dynamic and is weird. Axl always has a dynamic voice even in those UYI shows when it sounded like he painfully gargling with broken glass. With crappy laptop speakers and no earbuds or headphones handy to listen to it better I would say the first video, Vegas is better. If I listen to it again with better hardware I may have a different opinion. Your computer is fine, I think your ears are broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanity_lost Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said: Your computer is fine, I think your ears are broken Why does it have to be my ears that are broken? Why can't it be my brain? Maybe my ears hear just fine but the electrical currents in my brain are shorting out? I think my ears are offended about this and want an apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, sanity_lost said: Why does it have to be my ears that are broken? Why can't it be my brain? Maybe my ears hear just fine but the electrical currents in my brain are shorting out? I think my ears are offended about this and want an apology. That's fine. I just disagree with your opinion, but let's leave it here so the thread can stay on topic. I think the ultimate argument is clean or raspy voice for November rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofnazareth Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 It would be better if he sang it like the record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 1 minute ago, sonofnazareth said: It would be better if he sang it like the record. The record vocals are much lower than what he currently does live. Obviously 92 VMA's are ideal for this song vocally...I thought he sang it fine in the sound check for Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralebava Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 On 15/4/2016 at 9:49 PM, Nice Boy said: Something I have thought about the song November Rain: I think it would have been better if Axl had used his softer voice at the beginning, the same voice as in the beginning of Patience and Don't Cry. I'm a lover of rasp, but can't help feeling that when used on the opening of NR it just sounds too harsh/whiney for a love ballad (especially live.) I would say: let's hear it with the soft voice at the beginning, then at the end "dontcha know you need somebody" he could still rasp it up. Thoughts? No!!! NR is a masterpiece. Its perfect as it is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Axl *wanted* the vocals on November Rain to be vocally rough. Because he wanted it to be something "everybody can sing or thinks they can sing, so they can be part of it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofnazareth Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I can't stand this new 'clean' voice on NR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 2006 video has far superior vocals, of course. But 2016 video has Slash in it which changes things drastically in favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 15 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: So this is better than this? Or equal to vocally according to this thread 2006 video has far superior vocals, of course - unfortunately it has a mediocre Fortus solo and an absolutely, utterly godawful Robin Finck solo. The 2016 video has sub-par vocals for the most part, but it gets intensively better in the outro, plus it has Slash in it, which changes things drastically in its favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Instead of solving the Kennedy assassination, I'm going to kidnap 2006 Axl and bring him to the present. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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