Popular Post ksks12 Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) It's total inappropriate via Slash and Duff. If Axl wants to continue to praise 2000-2014 period he should call his hired hands back (or hire new ones) and book a tour where the whole band got 350.000 usd. This semi reunion would open anyone's eyes, yet he still lives in some kind of parallel universe. Well guess what Axl, as you probably guessed, it doesn't and the majority of the world didn't care about your side project (including fortus) that is why it still doesn't care if someone played with you inthis project for 16 years. It just reminds everyone how much time you have wasted claiming you owned sth. The rest of the world clearly didn't think it belong solely to you. Edited April 24, 2016 by ksks12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steveysham Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 He's just acknowledging his hard work. He's a great player and a blast to watch live. 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swedish Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) I think you're reading way too much into this quote... He probably just wanted to inform the casuals at Coachella who Richard is and why he's there! He may also want to show his gratitude against Richard for sticking with him over the years. He is NOT trying to praise the ChiDem lineups and he is NOT trying to show disrespect to the 85-93 lineups, if so then he wouldn't have reunited with Slash and Duff! Edited April 24, 2016 by youngswedishvinyl 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackieloveless Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Richard seems cool much rather have him than d.j or bumble for many reasons . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraibes Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Richard desserves it. He's been in Guns N' Roses for 16 years now and has proven to be one of the best guitar player in the world, very reliable and very loyal. According to many people, he wrote TONS of material for the band post CD erea. Richard is basically everywhere and Slash may actually work on Richard's material. I think it would be normal for him to be part of the partnership, aka Ronnie Wood in the Rolling Stones. Ronnie isn't a "founding member" of the Rolling Stones but he is so important for the band that he is considered as a key member like Jagger and Richards. Richard Fortus should be part of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nosaj Thing Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, Caraibes said: Richard desserves it. He's been in Guns N' Roses for 16 years now and has proven to be one of the best guitar player in the world, very reliable and very loyal. According to many people, he wrote TONS of material for the band post CD erea. Richard is basically everywhere and Slash may actually work on Richard's material. I think it would be normal for him to be part of the partnership, aka Ronnie Wood in the Rolling Stones. Ronnie isn't a "founding member" of the Rolling Stones but he is so important for the band that he is considered as a key member like Jagger and Richards. Richard Fortus should be part of it. Never. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spliff Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, youngswedishvinyl said: I think you're reading way too much into this quote... He probably just wanted to inform the casuals at Coachella who Richard is and why he's there! He may also want to show his gratitude against Richard for sticking with him over the years. He is NOT trying to praise the ChiDem lineups and he is NOT trying to show disrespect to the 85-93 lineups, if so then he wouldn't have reunited with Slash and Duff! he should probably mention dizzy too then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADoll77 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 46 minutes ago, ksks12 said: It's total inappropriate via Slash and Duff. If Axl wants to continue to praise 2000-2014 period he should call his hired hands back (or hire new ones) and book a tour where the whole band got 350.000 usd. This semi reunion would open anyone's eyes, yet he still lives in some kind of parallel universe. Well guess what Axl, as you probably guessed, it doesn't and the majority of the world didn't care about your side project (including fortus) that is why it still doesn't care if someone played with you inthis project for 16 years. It just reminds everyone how much time you have wasted claiming you owned sth. The rest of the world clearly didn't think it belong solely to you. agreed. it is disrespectful and inappropriate. I really thought Axl had woken up and realized that NuGnr was a solo project. yes, Fortus is better than DJ, but it would have been better to start GNR again with a clean slate without any Nu members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madison Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 I agree - it was a cringeworthy comment. Don't get me wrong - I like Richard. But, this tour is being hyped and promoted as a reunion of the original lineup "for the first time in 23 years" - and the last time I checked, it had not been 23 years since Richard and Frank played. Most fans want to see the guys who wrote, created and played these amazing songs - and Axl knows that. So, I think Axl's comment about Richard is his way of trying to defend his decision to keep two guys from the "lost dark" years in the lineup. If he got rid of them, he would be admitting that all of those years were a mistake and waste of time, which would be tough for Axl to do. I don't mind him bringing Richard along - but only AFTER all of the guys from the original lineup - Izzy, Steven/Matt - are onboard first. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, spliff said: he should probably mention dizzy too then That's true but saying that Axl is "praising the 2000-2014 period" just by mentioning that the current guitar player has been in the band during that period is just absurd. Edited April 24, 2016 by youngswedishvinyl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Glow Inc. Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 51 minutes ago, ksks12 said: It's total inappropriate via Slash and Duff. I doubt Slash and Duff are as insecure as you seem to be about who is or isn't in Guns n' Roses anymore... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) That's quantity not quality. He was part of the CD just to some degree. But he wasn't part of AFD and the UYI albums. Now if he wrote amazing songs but the world didn't have the chance to listen to them. I'm afraid it doesn't count Edited April 24, 2016 by Padme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Black Sabbath Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 The band isn't calling this a reunion at all, and any time they mention the years apart, it's always clear they mention or show just Slash, Duff and Axl. I doubt Slash and Duff even thought twice about the comment. He made a comment in Vegas about it too. Not a huge deal, really. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madison Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) EDIT: For some reason, the second thread about Richard joining the partnership was merged into this one. So, my comment here - is responding to the suggestion that Richard should be part of the GNR partnership: I highly doubt that would ever happen- not in a million years. He's a nice guy - but he's a replacement - a hired hand - nothing more. Heck, the guys from the original lineup - who actually created this music - had a tough enough time agreeing to the terms of the partnership agreement. Isn't that one of the reasons floating around for Izzy's absence? That he wouldn't get to share equally in the partnership? Not sure if it's true, but that's the rumor making the rounds. So, why would they bring a hired hand into the mix? Edited April 24, 2016 by madison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkknite63 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I really don't think its inappropriate or cringe worthy or anything I think hes just appreciating the fact that Richard has stuck with him for 16 years, and that was right before his solo/part in KOHD. I think he was just appreciative of how Richard has worked/stuck with him all these years. That it I guess. Slash and Duff are huge superstars I dont think a one of comment would be disrespectful to them or Guns N' Roses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 But he's been in gnr for that many years... why is this a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) i would be livid if they gave that opportunity to Fortus and not Izzy i think thats why Izzy isn't involved...i think he wants a cut of everything and they are probably being a bit greedy of course thats just my theory and not proven fact...Izzy has always been abit weird about this stuff edit: thread was merged...my comment was about Fortus being part of the partnership Edited April 24, 2016 by -W.A.R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Axl also called Paul Huge "the original guitarist" at Rock in Rio III - I think Axl's just insecure about Izzy not being there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Getting offended by that sounds like nitpicking to me. Sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caraibes Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, madison said: I highly doubt that would ever happen- not in a million years. He's a nice guy - but he's a replacement - a hired hand - nothing more. Heck, the guys from the original lineup - who actually created this music - had a tough enough time agreeing to the terms of the partnership agreement. Isn't that one of the reasons floating around for Izzy's absence? That he wouldn't get to share equally in the partnership? Not sure if it's true, but that's the rumor making the rounds. So, why would they bring a hired hand into the mix? Fortus is NOT a "hired hand". Stop spreading false informations. He is a BAND MEMBER. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Richard hasnt been in guns for 16 years. He played his first shows in 02 so thats 14 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nosaj Thing Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Caraibes said: Fortus is NOT a "hired hand". Stop spreading false informations. He is a BAND MEMBER. He is a hired hand. Additional musician, if you will. No false information being spread. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, Black Sabbath said: The band isn't calling this a reunion at all, and any time they mention the years apart, it's always clear they mention or show just Slash, Duff and Axl. I doubt Slash and Duff even thought twice about the comment. He made a comment in Vegas about it too. Not a huge deal, really. Exactly. I sometimes find it funny what fans get worked up over when the guys in the band couldn't care less. Richard has been in GNR that long. Axl said it. Twice now. Who really gives a shit. It's not like Axl said something false. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Black Sabbath Posted April 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2016 We're Gilby and Matt hired hands just because they werent on Appetite? If you want to talk semantics then they're just the same as Richard and Frank, really. Why is this even still a discussion? All people cared about for years is Axl and Slash getting back together and that happens and now they go "Yeah well, what about Izzy and one of the other two drummers I'll settle for?!" Come on. This is the best lineup since 93. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madison Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Just now, Black Sabbath said: We're Gilby and Matt hired hands just because they werent on Appetite? If you want to talk semantics then they're just the same as Richard and Frank, really. Matt wrote some of the music from the Illusions era. He was inducted into the Rock Hall of Fame for his contribution in helping to make GNR the biggest band on the planet. So, comparing Matt and Richard is ludicrous - one was a band member, the other a hired hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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