NITL media silence promoting attention on nuGNR?

[soon]

It seems to me that there is a general consensus here on the forum that there is some form of contractual agreement for NITL participants to not speak with media about GNR business.  Adler seems to have spoken directly to it on Mitch Lafons podcast. 

A lot of new interviews with former members are getting plenty of attention from us hungry fans.  And we are sometimes finding ourselves looking back to that era.  Maybe just because theres media to consume, even if its been discussed before.  Plus the regrouping probably brought a lot of fans back, so they are learning about the Chi Dem era for the first time.  With so little to discuss of NITL GNR theres even more time to check out the previous era?

I personally like the CD era as well as classic era(s).  Happy enough about NITL and thrilled I saw it.  So, basically I like it all.  But I would find it so ironic if the current bands silence is promoting nuGNR and its individual members careers, when Axl fought so hard against promoting classic GNR or its members during the nuGNR era.

This is my first time starting topic, sorry if its been discussed or if this post in unclear, short sighted or what ever else! 

What do people think?

Edited March 21, 2017 by soon
defining my fandom

[Słash]

There are a lot of Casual fans who go to the shows and they were not interested in Axl's solo band, they were interested songs by GNR from AFD and UYI

Even now when the CD songs are played 95% of the people don't know about them and its usually a piss break. 

And as for the members in Axl's solo band, I feel bad for them, they worked very hard and recorded a lot of songs and they can't even use them cause Axl has a right over them. 

[double talkin jive mfkr]

35 minutes ago, soon said:

It seems to me that there is a general consensus here on the forum that there is some form of contractual agreement for NITL participants to not speak with media about GNR business.  Adler seems to have spoken directly to it on Mitch Lafons podcast. 

A lot of new interviews with former members are getting plenty of attention from us hungry fans.  And we are sometimes finding ourselves looking back to that era.  Maybe just because theres media to consume, even if its been discussed before.  Plus the regrouping probably brought a lot of fans back, so they are learning about the Chi Dem era for the first time.  With so little to discuss of NITL GNR theres even more time to check out the previous era?

I would find it so ironic if the current bands silence is promoting nuGNR and its individual members careers, when Axl fought so hard against promoting classic GNR or its members during the nuGNR era.

This is my first time starting topic, sorry if its been discussed or if this post in unclear, short sighted or what ever else! 

What do people think?

i agree i think your assessment makes 100% sense hopefully the 5 can all talk on camera together at some point or not at least just play 

Edited March 21, 2017 by double talkin jive mfkr

[Silent Jay]

People are starting to realise this is a cashgrabbing nostalgia act and there's nothing behind it. Stale setlists, no camaraderie, no new album, no new songs, nothing.

So people are naturally coming back to the previous lineups since there are tons of material left in the vault.

[Jabberwocky]

jh

Edited March 21, 2017 by Jabberwocky

[auad]

In first place...

What media can talk about? This is just a nostalgia act

[xBrownstonex]

Interesting where that number of 95% comes from. I guess people have been doing empiric anylisis and found that out. Great work.

[soon]

30 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

i agree i think your assessment makes 100% sense hopefully the 5 can all talk on camera together at some point or not at least just play 

Id take anything too!  Especially a good interview with the band.

 

[soon]

28 minutes ago, auad said:

In first place...

What media can talk about? This is just a nostalgia act

Im sad that I have to agree that your point seems fair enough.  I hold out some hope though, but with out disagreeing with you.

I guess there is a bit of an answer to your question:  Boats and bike politics.  But Im more interested in hearing Stinson repeat the same GNR talking points in 5 interviews then I am in hearing Duff talk boats.

 

 

[gnfnrs1972]

I wonder sometimes if people on here love the music or love the drama.

[auad]

Just now, gnfnrs1972 said:

I wonder sometimes if people on here love the music or love the drama.

Good question here.

In GNR's universe...there are more music or more drama?

[IncitingChaos]

We had an effort for a media driven run when Axl agreed to be on Kimmel, but obviously something came up. Maybe Axl was going through the questions or prep and decided it best to not say anything at the moment. Maybe he hasn't found the words or is afraid of speaking too soon and being disappointed by the reunion himself. 

Maybe a documentary is coming and they can get the answers out there. 

I don't think any attention is on nugnr. That band produced nothing and there's nothing to really look back on expect for the what if's. what we know is Axl and Slash have the most potential to work together in the future and I find that Axl enjoys the build up...he likes people speculating rather than knowing and he likes surprising people, he wants to control who knows what and when. It's why we might never get anything from this lineup either. 

[IncitingChaos]

I also find Axl much more reasonable than he portrays himself. We had clues throughout the years that if a reunion happened this is how it would be. From all reports he knew this day would come despite what he tells TMZ. 

I think he has a full plan for this band but somehow with Axl we find that his plans get soured and if one thing goes wrong we get nothing....not sure if that ruins my reasonable argument but Axl is weird 

[ronartest2004]

As far as NITL members speaking to the media there is one person behind that, Axl. Has nothing to do with some evil lawyer sitting in his office, or jimmy iovine. It is Axl and strictly axl.

 

And the main thing I've found with most people is that they had no idea CD ever came out, most people I play it for love it. But they all think it's slash on the riffs.

And most people that I know aren't super interested in the tour because the last the heard of axl was in the early to mid 90s storming off stage or not showing up at all. So it seems to be like that old saying "perception becomes reality" except now it's "realities of history have become perception" however fair or unfair it is that's how most people I know think of it.

 

but as said most of them love CD and they all begrudgingly say "I hate axl, but he did an awesome job filling in for ac/dc"

 

[bigcountry]

I think at first the NITLT was

1 make a bunch of money 

2.  See if there is any fire there to get back together to record 

3. Could they get along

Then Axl got the acdc tour and I really think if acdc do want to do an album with axl GNR will be retired after possibly a goodbye tour after the NITLT ends.

Look at the facts

GNR songs are too hard on him and simply he voice is almost gone.

Acdc much easier for him to sing and his voice held up. If he had a bad night it wasn't really all that bad. Unlike a GNR bad night.

It would be easier to call it a day Axl will have acdc, slash still has his band, duff would pick right up where he left off also.

And another thing they all will be is much richer 

This is only if axl and acdc do another album or long term touring  which I think both are a very good possibly and imho is alot more likely that GNR recording an album.

 

[wasted]

I don't mean this as an insult but I have thought that. In the abscence of new media content about the reunion, I find myself still obsessing over the CD era in a nostalgic way. I always thought I'd be getting the biker jacket out and blazing marlboro reds for the reunion. But I'm reading about Brain and his drum lifestyle in sweatpants texting for a rib eye and craft beers. 

[AlexC]

3 hours ago, bigcountry said:

I think at first the NITLT was

1 make a bunch of money 

2.  See if there is any fire there to get back together to record 

3. Could they get along

Then Axl got the acdc tour and I really think if acdc do want to do an album with axl GNR will be retired after possibly a goodbye tour after the NITLT ends.

Look at the facts

GNR songs are too hard on him and simply he voice is almost gone.

Acdc much easier for him to sing and his voice held up. If he had a bad night it wasn't really all that bad. Unlike a GNR bad night.

It would be easier to call it a day Axl will have acdc, slash still has his band, duff would pick right up where he left off also.

And another thing they all will be is much richer 

This is only if axl and acdc do another album or long term touring  which I think both are a very good possibly and imho is alot more likely that GNR recording an album.

 

Only one of those is a fact.

[Iron MikeyJ]

I still believe new guns music will appear. I think we are letting history cloud out judgement, as opposed to look at what's in front of us. Axl admitted that the recent slew of deaths (Bowie, Prince, Lemmy) had an impact on both Axl and Slash. So I do have faith music will happen. How much music, is anyone's guess. Could be just a couple of new tracks on a greatest hits, could be a whole new (axl, slash, duff) written album. Or it could be a mix of CD leftovers and new songs album. 

The moral of the story is I DO think music will happen. I think EVERYTHING that is happening right now is learning from previous mistakes. AXL doesn't want another CD debacle again (botched release, record company issues, fan expectations, etc). Slash doesn't want another 1996 album complications. So by NOT talking, they have learned from previous mistakes. Plus, let's not forget, a new GUNS album I DO believe would out sell Metallica, AC/DC, and every other band you can compare to them. Why? Interest. There would be a curiosity in that album, far more than ANY other band NOT named Led Zeppelin or The Beatles could generate. Metallica and the rest never broke up and stopped releasing music. They have just steadily regressed over time, GUNS (real guns, not NUgnr) NEVER released a bad album Or a drop in quality album like every other band has. So YES I think a new GUNS album WILL sell surprisingly well, so NOT doing an album would be leaving money on the table, and I don't think ANYONE involved wants to do that.

FINALLY, the biggest reason why I DO think new music will happen, is fire. I think the big 3 all have some fire left in the tank when it comes to guns n roses. I think they want to correct some wrongs, and finish on top. Slash and Duff don't like opening for bigger bands or headlining smaller venues. They have tasted the TOP, that's where they belong, and they know it. So staying in TOP means releasing new music at some point. I think work has already started on some songs, but they are NOT going to talk about it, not yet anyways. They are being SMART about this tour imo, by not talking. They are letting the music (the shows) do the talking, and I respect that. When they feel the tour has reached its conclusion, they will talk. I just have a feeling that a documentary or something is also in the works, and we will get answers then . No need to blow the suprise by talking to reporters, just wait for the docu/live DVD or whatever and we will get the info then. 

Lets NOT forget that Axl, Slash, and Duff all seem VERY happy since this tour started, I see zero reasons for any of them to walk away from this, not anytime soon anyways. I truly believe this whole reunion/regrouping has been soul cleansing for everyone involved. I think all of them, Axl included has a new lease on life. I think they want to make the best of it, which includes a new album, we just need to be a little patient. Nobody wants another CD wait, Axl included I bet. I think they want to do a good old rock and roll album, and I think it'll happen. Honestly I think it's already begun. With a couple of CD (epic songs) mixed in for good measure.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Iron MikeyJ

[wasted]

They are still on the CD Tour. 

[Top-Hatted One]

18 hours ago, gnfnrs1972 said:

I wonder sometimes if people on here love the music or love the drama.

It used to be about the music and all the excitement. Now all we got is the drama to keep us going. As well as a nostalgia/loot tour featuring 3/5's

Edited March 22, 2017 by Top-Hatted One

[Modano09]

I always felt like whatever issues were between Slash/Axl were much deeper than disagreeing on musical direction or the future of the band. If they've made peace they probably don't want to disclose every detail about it to the media or risk re-opening old wounds. And really, what's the point? Axl, Slash and Duff made their peace with each other and seem content/mature enough to not have to air it to the public. They probably just told Adler that they're not airing complaints publicly and if he wants to be involved in the future to keep his mouth shut. 

[Silent Jay]

4 hours ago, wasted said:

They are still on the CD Tour. 

Nine years and counting, but nobody wants another CD wait.

37 minutes ago, Top-Hatted One said:

As well as a nostalgia/loot tour featuring 3/5's

NuGnR nostalgia tour to be continued --->

[AlexC]

The silence is what gets everybody talking. As much as it's probably due to caution it's also a good marketing strategy. In an age where everything anyone does ever gets covered immediately by social media anyway why bother talking to the press? More and more bands are dropping unannaounced albums and the results appear positive. I'm not saying Guns will do that or not announce something if they are going to at some point but they have a huge enough fan base for their silence to perpetuate enough discussion to create huge excitement.

[wasted]

4 hours ago, Silent Jay said:

Nine years and counting, but nobody wants another CD wait.

NuGnR nostalgia tour to be continued --->

I've actually waited longer for CD 2 than CD. Around 2004 is when I started consciously waiting. It's 8 years since CD was released and the wait for the great successor began. 

[Tadsy]

The nu guns era isn't anything my friends talk about, in fact it's kind of forgotten completely. Except for when we went to the first night in Sydney and a few of my friends were like, why did we get 3 CD songs, 2 ac/dc songs and the seeker ? and missed a few fan favourites everyone wants to hear! 

point of the story is this, other than obsessed hardcore fans like us, no one is talking about CD, no one is talking about brain, ashba, Pittman or that weirdo that used to wear a kfc bucket on his head! ?the casual fans that really are more interested than the people who just happen to sing along to SCOM on the radio are really only talking about GNR because of slash, duff and Axl touring together for the first time in 23 years. And getting nostalgic over that. 

The NITL group aren't talking because Axl prefers it that way. It's got nothing to do with promoting nugnr, or anything like that, it's simply Axl would prefer less hassles, and he doesn't need the media anymore or the crap that brings with it. 

As for the rest, well, people on here calling them a nostalgia band are jumping the gun IMO, the guys haven't done a full loop of the planet yet since they got back together, if this is still the case in 18 months cool, I'll agree, but I think we should allow them to finish this tour run and complete the loop and then see what happens, THEN we can make some judgments.  

Edited March 23, 2017 by Tadsy