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The issue of the economy in an ''independent'' Scotland is still a puzzler. Before joining the Eurozone Scotland would need to join the EU which could take years, and few are actually advocating joining the Eurozone right now (NB., countries like the Czech Republic, who are pledged to join, rigging their budgets to keep their domestic currency). And if Scotland keeps Pound Sterling, it'll be the Bank of England running the Scottish economy! And a ''new'' economy - the ''Scotty'', ''Salmond'' or ''Sturgeon'' - immediately brings forth logistic and implementation arguments. 

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24 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

It is more that Parliament has been incapable of choosing a plan. The options, speaking in generalities, were relatively straight forward and set forth before the referendum. I could list them for you but it is incredibly dull stuff. 

So, no plan was voted for, but a concept. Also making us laugh across the pond is the movement Brexit inspired here called "Wexit" - for Western Exit, the succession of the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. Well, their tiny online community actually cant agree if the hashtag they should use is #wexit or #weave. "Weave" standing for Western Leave, as in "Im so mad, I wanna weave!" :angry: :lol:

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Disgusting,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-50501097

PS

Some nonsense about Rachel Riley in a wet t-shirt competition,

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rachel-riley-defends-photoshopped-jeremy-corbyn-tshirt-after-twitter-calls-for-countdown-host-to-be-a4292566.html

And the Salmond has appeared in court for molesting 10 women (14 charges, 10 of sexual assault, 2 of indecent assault, one of sexual assault with intent to rape and one attempted rape)!! 

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33 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

And the Salmond has appeared in court for molesting 10 women (14 charges, 10 of sexual assault, 2 of indecent assault, one of sexual assault with intent to rape and one attempted rape)!! 

Or as he described it at the time. A once in a lifetime "in-out" decision.................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*gets coat

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11 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

Graeme, Graeme, Graeme *tuts and shakes his head* :lol:

Don't bring me into this :lol: . Believing Scotland would be better governing itself =/= signing up to a cult of personality around any political leader. 

On 19/11/2019 at 9:19 PM, AtariLegend said:

Dazey, honestly... why does England hate the rest of us? Why do you keep inflicting these people upon us?

There is a solution... leave the union :P .

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23 minutes ago, Dazey said:

Surely Poles swinging is a bit of a touchy subject for Corbyn? Well some of them anyway. 

Seriously though, whatever you or I think of him, he's the only hope to stop brexit.

Doesn't need to win, just needs to stop Boris from getting 320 ish plus.

If Labour aren't mid 30s in the polls next weekend, then this is already over.

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I don't understand why any remainer would vote for Corbyn, a Brexiteer who has spent the entire time sitting on the fence on the subject, and has no coherent plan on Brexit but some bollocks about customs union. Clearly the Liberal Democrats are the best option for remain if Brexit is your primary concern? 

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13 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

Seriously though, whatever you or I think of him, he's the only hope to stop brexit.

Doesn't need to win, just needs to stop Boris from getting 320 ish plus.

If Labour aren't mid 30s in the polls next weekend, then this is already over.

Corbyn doesn't stop Brexit all by himself. The time for a second referendum has passed. There is a Brexit deal now. Both the UK and the EU need stability. 

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9 minutes ago, Padme said:

Corbyn doesn't stop Brexit all by himself. The time for a second referendum has passed. There is a Brexit deal now. Both the UK and the EU need stability. 

It's not about Corbyn, if there was a hung parliment again it'd be a second referendum. That's the reality. The conservatives would not be able to block it.

A hung parliment doesn't happen if the Conservatives take much more seats than they lose.

As for this deal, you do realize it's basically just a hard brexit, harder than May's deal? Aside from that the Torries would basically have until the middle of next year if this deal passed to agree a trade deal in record breaking time, unless they want to extend the extension which Boris keeps saying he won't. Which basically means the news will be filled with talk about no deal next december too and likely years.

This deal passing, doesn't end the process. It just means Brexit cannot be called if it is.

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55 minutes ago, Padme said:

There is a deal in place. Parliament has passed it already. 

Nope.

They only voted to take it to the next reading stage. Which although further than where May got it, meant that it was the point where changes could be put down.

They also voted to get rid off Johnson's timetable demand that everything was voted on in 3 days with as little discussion as possible of the details. Yes Brexit had been talked about non stop for years, but that was the first time to actually see what was written down. 

It's very likely given the timetable of 3 days being blocked that a customs union would have ended up attached, that's why Boris decided to pull the deal before the election vote.

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