Len Cnut Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Padme said: This is just a trade deal. So from now on there are a lot of EU rules and regulatation that the UK won't follow anymore. Is that good or bad for the UK? Only time will tell So all the trade benefits and none of the regulation? Sounds alright to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: So all the trade benefits and none of the regulation? Sounds alright to me! Not really, lets say you're a doctor and you want to move to Germany or France. Good luck with that! Your degree no longer has recognition. You can't enroll in Erasmus program. And you need a visa to be legal resident in Germany or France. The same happens the other way around. And I don't know what's gonna happen with European football players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Len Cnut said: So all the trade benefits and none of the regulation? Sounds alright to me! Obviously what they want you to think. You’ll be back on the boat by Easter Sunshine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dazey said: Obviously what they want you to think. You’ll be back on the boat by Easter Sunshine! Oh well, it’ll be nice to get a touch of the ol’ currant bun at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Len Cnut said: So whats different between the deal we’ve made now and what we were when we were part of the EU? by far the biggest difference will be in the department of justice (the safety and justice pillar of the EU). if you're in the EU, you've got the european court on human rights watching over you, to see if you're not treating criminals too bad. it also means, you can't kill terrorists with the death penalty for example: europe forbids it. In belgium, we've had to drastically change our criminal procedures (for example: an attorney is needed with criminial interrogations), and I'm sure you british had to as well. it's not clear to me though, if leaving the EU also meant leaving the european treaty on human rights. If not, then I believe brexit is pretty meaningless to begin with. Edited December 25, 2020 by action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 12:08 PM, DieselDaisy said: And they are off, Never doubted him for a minute! I always said Boris wouldn’t let us down didn’t I? In other news. Phwwwwooaaarrrr!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Len Cnut said: So whats different between the deal we’ve made now and what we were when we were part of the EU? The greatest benefit in my opinion is that we are no longer a member of the Customs Union. In the Customs Union, EU member states could not make bilateral trade deals. Britain can now make independent trade deals as a sovereign nation, and indeed 61 will come into operation on January 1st. Further, European law no longer applies here. Britain is free of EU regulation (EU trade is heavily regulated and bureaucratic, possessing much higher corporate tax). No CFP which will allow our fisheries to regenerate. No CAP. 4 hours ago, Padme said: Not really, lets say you're a doctor and you want to move to Germany or France. Good luck with that! Your degree no longer has recognition. You can't enroll in Erasmus program. And you need a visa to be legal resident in Germany or France. The same happens the other way around. And I don't know what's gonna happen with European football players What an utter load of bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dazey said: Never doubted him for a minute! I always said Boris wouldn’t let us down didn’t I? In other news. Phwwwwooaaarrrr!!!!! She must have about 5 Caribbean holidays a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: The greatest benefit in my opinion is that we are no longer a member of the Customs Union. In the Customs Union, EU member states could not make bilateral trade deals. Britain can now make independent trade deals as a sovereign nation, and indeed 61 will come into operation on January 1st. Further, European law no longer applies here. Britain is free of EU regulation (EU trade is heavily regulated and bureaucratic, possessing much higher corporate tax). No CFP which will allow our fisheries to regenerate. No CAP. What an utter load of bollocks. No https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/24/from-tariffs-to-visas-heres-whats-in-the-brexit-deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Padme said: No https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/24/from-tariffs-to-visas-heres-whats-in-the-brexit-deal Where does it say your ''degree no longer has recognition''? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Where does it say your ''degree no longer has recognition''? Read the whole article. Read this one as well. And read carefully. It's all there https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55180293 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Padme said: Read the whole article. Read this one as well. And read carefully. It's all there https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55180293 Sorry but I still cannot find a passage pertaining to a degree having no recognition. Degrees from UK universities are recognised world wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Sorry but I still cannot find a passage pertaining to a degree having no recognition. Degrees from UK universities are recognised world wide. There will no longer be automatic recognition of professional qualifications such as doctors, nurses and architects It is not worldwide. It's within EU. We are talking about UK leaving the EU. I don't know what the rules are for U.S. or Australia Edited December 25, 2020 by Padme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 So UK didn't get their fish back? Well, they got 25 % of them back. Anyway, happy to hear they managed to finally get a deal, even if a lot remains to be done. Great that Brits won't have to cope with a hard Brexit in addition to the Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said: So UK didn't get their fish back? Well, they got 25 % of them back. Anyway, happy to hear they managed to finally get a deal, even if a lot remains to be done. Great that Brits won't have to cope with a hard Brexit in addition to the Brexit. Is the agreement between Norway and the EU similar to the one the UK made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Padme said: Is the agreement between Norway and the EU similar to the one the UK made? After what I have heard, in some parts but not identical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Padme said: There will no longer be automatic recognition of professional qualifications such as doctors, nurses and architects It is not worldwide. It's within EU. We are talking about UK leaving the EU. I don't know what the rules are for U.S. or Australia Those are not degrees. Those are professional qualifications that you often get in addition to your degree. The latter, unlike degrees, are regulatory in nature. 2 hours ago, Padme said: Is the agreement between Norway and the EU similar to the one the UK made? Norway is a member of the EFTA which means she is a member of the EEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Those are not degrees. Those are professional qualifications that you often get in addition to your degree. The latter, unlike degrees, are regulatory in nature. Still they don't have the recognition they used to have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Just now, Padme said: Still they don't have the recognition they used to have It would be surprising if they did as they'd be affiliated with their own area's regulatory authorities, bodies such as the Nursing and Midwifery Council. Luckily professional qualifications are usually far shorter than degrees, and can be done part-time. CELTA for instance, which is for English teachers, is only a four week course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: It would be surprising if they did as they'd be affiliated with their own area's regulatory authorities, bodies such as the Nursing and Midwifery Council. Luckily professional qualifications are usually far shorter than degrees, and can be done part-time. CELTA for instance, which is for English teachers, is only a four week course. Well it would be wouldn’t it? Piece of piss is English. That should try teaching a proper subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dazey said: Well it would be wouldn’t it? Piece of piss is English. That should try teaching a proper subject. The Scottish and Scousers have been living in England (see what I did there?) for hundreds of years and still have not managed its complexity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) https://twitter.com/cactus_woman/status/1342855369849233408 Edited December 26, 2020 by DieselDaisy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Alright...alright: I'll stop with the Schadenfreudey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Sturgeon is now a no dealer hardcore Brexiteer haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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