Eddie Money Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 TWAT when I would have paid $4k to go see the "AFD 5" but I have lost interest. I would have been more interested in hearing what a true collaborative GNR album with the original 5 would sound like as long ago as 2005, but knowing that will never happen and to quote Dr. Dre, making new music is a young man's game. I don't think anything the original line up or any incarnation could do would excite me as much as the original albums or even Chinese Democracy (because of the lore behind it and I waited so long) at this point. By the way, off-topic, go watch that new documentary on Dr Dre and Jimmy Iovine on HBO. It's really good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 7/9/2017 at 2:54 PM, Wagszilla said: I don't go out of my way to post negative opinions. I don't like people like that. I care about the band but if they don't give me a product I care about then I'm no longer interested in that business. Capitalism. Vote with your $. I come to MyGNR and Evo because I like some of the people and I like talking about Guns N' Roses franchise (1985-Present), largely the 2002 band, and to check in if there's any new news. I appreciate the explanation. Thanks. Just trying to understand a different POV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Don't care what the price is, name it and I'll pay it if the AFD5 get on stage. On 7/9/2017 at 3:12 PM, ZoSoRose said: Idk... Probably whatever the price is now for a nosebleed. They already blew their chance at doing the reunion right initially. I may not even go to the arena show in the fall because tickets are so pricey, if it was the original gang Id def go for at least a nosebleed Let me see if I get this straight, they blew their "load" by just not doing it the way you think they should have but, if they still do it you'll go. Sounds like it isn't too late if ya ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) On 7/9/2017 at 2:56 PM, Apollo said: Well....you are responding to a guy's post/opinion that you don't like...... I don't dislike Wags at all. Just trying to understand because it doesn't make sense to me and I can't relate. And unlike some, he answered w/o coming across angry or offended which I appreciate. It was an honest question. If I disliked him, I never would have read what he wrote because he'd have been blocked a long time ago. Edited July 10, 2017 by thunderram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 On 7/9/2017 at 5:07 PM, ZoSoRose said: I love the reunion, and I'm satisfied with what we got last year. I'm just saying, that was "it". If they all of the sudden get Izzy and Steven back in the fold full time, it won't be a fraction of the hype or hoopla that came last year. No but, it would still be cool. And it would be better to do that, then not do it at all. It'd sure as hell be better than just continuing playing these same old songs with the same old set list since they clearly have no interest in changing that. I just completely disagree with this notion that it isn't worth doing now just because things didn't go down the way someone thinks they "should have".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Billsfan said: Don't care what the price is, name it and I'll pay it if the AFD5 get on stage. Let me see if I get this straight, they blew their "load" by just not doing it the way you think they should have but, if they still do it you'll go. Sounds like it isn't too late if ya ask me What I mean is, to the general public and even a lot of us, they already missed their chance to capitalize on maximum excitement. If the AFD5 decided to do a tour or even a show, yeah, I'd think it was cool and I'd be excited. I'd even be excited to go if I could. However, it won't be nearly the excitement levels I was at when this whole thing kicked off last April. To see Slash and Axl, and even Duff in the same band again for the first time after everything this fan base has endured was incredible. It wasn't the whole band, but it was enough to make it feel like the "big reunion" we all wanted. If the whole band finally reunited now, it'd be great, but it'd still feel like everything was a wasted opportunity and it'd be kind of anticlimactic. It'd arrive as a whimper instead of a bang, since to most people, the band already did reunite. So yeah, going and being excited is different than being hyped into the high heavens, ya know? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 22 hours ago, FuriousStyles said: Everyone who overspent on the Neverending Lifetime Frankenstein Band Tour (including me) NOT willing to throw-down $$$ for the original AFD5....... Agreed. Things are calming down around here and getting more quiet, who are we kidding, if Izzy and Steven joined the band on stage, we'd finally get another 200 plus page thread in here Seriously though, it would get people talking and get people excited. I would absolutely pay to see it, a hell of a lot more than I would for a lineup with Frank freaking Ferrer in it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: What I mean is, to the general public and even a lot of us, they already missed their chance to capitalize on maximum excitement. If the AFD5 decided to do a tour or even a show, yeah, I'd think it was cool and I'd be excited. I'd even be excited to go if I could. However, it won't be nearly the excitement levels I was at when this whole thing kicked off last April. To see Slash and Axl, and even Duff in the same band again for the first time after everything this fan base has endured was incredible. It wasn't the whole band, but it was enough to make it feel like the "big reunion" we all wanted. If the whole band finally reunited now, it'd be great, but it'd still feel like everything was a wasted opportunity and it'd be kind of anticlimactic. It'd arrive as a whimper instead of a bang, since to most people, the band already did reunite. So yeah, going and being excited is different than being hyped into the high heavens, ya know? I get it but I still don't completely agree. I mean, I agree that getting the big 3 to start the tour was exciting but that was just because they weren't saying much so, we didn't know what to expect. A lot of people in here, at that time, thought the idea of Slash and Duff paying GNR songs to be completely crazy to consider, then it happened. The reason seeing Slash and Axl, not so much Duff, on stage together was what it was for the general public. The thought of those two being on stage was intensified for fans like you and me, because we BOTH, like pretty much every poster/mod/fan in here and the world, never believed that alone was possible. We never thought Axl and Slash would get on stage together and when they did, it got us excited. And there were plenty of fans who claimed to not want it because it would be money drive, they wouldn't be friends, blah blah blah...etc. The thought of the original 5 is so impossible, most fans are saying meh but the reality is, that probably wouldn't be the case otherwise. Hyped to the heavens? Maybe not. But to me, it's not even what the fans want. As a die hard fan, I want to see it. But I think it's more important that those 5 blood brothers, do it for themselves just to see. It has been impossible to get Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven and that alone, will still make it a legitimate draw in the eyes of the fans. That's my case. The current lineup, with the current songs could get stale. I could care less if the media is just as excited, if the fans are still excited and willing to come, they should do it. IMHO it would make the most sense to do a full tour after this cycle is over but, get the 5 of them up there for a show, lets see how the fans react and go from there. Couldn't hurt, could it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Well basically the tour shot its own bolt on the first show. The tour was never more interesting and exciting than it was during the initial pictures of Axl and Slash together again at the Troubadour, and that is just sitting at home on the internet; imagine what it would have been like being there? Then once that moment had passed, and we all realised the line-up and setlist, that has been it really. The one other exciting thing was the Adler guests, but besides that it has sort of settled into a professional regimented corporate set-up with few surprises, resembling a lot of legacy tours really (e.g. Kiss, Fleet Mac, Stones etc). You give them your credit card, they wipe out your savings, and you get the 'hits' - and then you can say to your grandchildren in forty years time, ''I saw them you know'' while handing out a Werther's Original. It is just like every other old fart act really: ''rock n' roll as a museum exhibit'' I call it. It was never how I envisioned either Guns or the genre of the music they play ending up but - as Sairey Gamp would say - ''sich is life''. There are other genres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Billsfan said: I get it but I still don't completely agree. I mean, I agree that getting the big 3 to start the tour was exciting but that was just because they weren't saying much so, we didn't know what to expect. A lot of people in here, at that time, thought the idea of Slash and Duff paying GNR songs to be completely crazy to consider, then it happened. The reason seeing Slash and Axl, not so much Duff, on stage together was what it was for the general public. The thought of those two being on stage was intensified for fans like you and me, because we BOTH, like pretty much every poster/mod/fan in here and the world, never believed that alone was possible. We never thought Axl and Slash would get on stage together and when they did, it got us excited. And there were plenty of fans who claimed to not want it because it would be money drive, they wouldn't be friends, blah blah blah...etc. The thought of the original 5 is so impossible, most fans are saying meh but the reality is, that probably wouldn't be the case otherwise. Hyped to the heavens? Maybe not. But to me, it's not even what the fans want. As a die hard fan, I want to see it. But I think it's more important that those 5 blood brothers, do it for themselves just to see. It has been impossible to get Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven and that alone, will still make it a legitimate draw in the eyes of the fans. That's my case. The current lineup, with the current songs could get stale. I could care less if the media is just as excited, if the fans are still excited and willing to come, they should do it. IMHO it would make the most sense to do a full tour after this cycle is over but, get the 5 of them up there for a show, lets see how the fans react and go from there. Couldn't hurt, could it? I get what you are saying, and I even agree. I don't know how to feel regarding GNR at this point to be honest. I almost view last year as a closing chapter to my "active fan" status. I got the main thing I wanted, I got to see a "legitimate" version of the band live in concert. Sure, I loved NuGNR, Slash's stuff, the HoF, other projects, etc but to see Axl, Slash, and another OG like Duff play and tour in front of me was huge. I loved it. I don't think a full original band reunion is impossible. I don't know if it will happen, and if it does I don't know if it'll be for a song, a concert, a tour, or even a photograph. I don't know. I'd like for it to happen, I'd also like to see it, but it just isn't the same as doing it right the first time. Whatever the band does from here on out, I'll be fine with what I got. If they coast and do nostalgia tours with this lineup until they disband, I'd be disappointed but not heartbroken, if they record new music then great, if the whole band reunites then great, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The same as I'd pay for any other GNR show,a maximum of $100 unless this ticket can take me back in time to 1988. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Tom2112 said: €100-150 max. I honestly don't think any band is worth more than that... don't let the concert industry big wigs win by buying into their system of it's a big attraction, so open those wallets and purses wide". There needs to be caps placed on ticket prices. Why? If people are willing to pay it, then obviously it's worth that much....oh wait, socialism....my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 9 hours ago, supercool said: More than half of the current members shouldn't be there... It's as simple as that. I would say 3 of the 7.... Dizzy is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Billsfan said: Agreed. Things are calming down around here and getting more quiet, who are we kidding, if Izzy and Steven joined the band on stage, we'd finally get another 200 plus page thread in here Seriously though, it would get people talking and get people excited. I would absolutely pay to see it, a hell of a lot more than I would for a lineup with Frank freaking Ferrer in it There is a trove of iconography alone that could be shepherded out in light of an AFD5 reunion. A release and/or reissue of albums/concert footage/books/photo albums/documentaries etc. It isn't just about bringing Izzy and Steven back - it's about utilizing every aspect of the Gn'R brand - fully. It can't be done during the NITL tour - because it would be called out for the obvious forgery that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, tsinindy said: Why? If people are willing to pay it, then obviously it's worth that much....oh wait, socialism....my bad. True, but is it actually worth that much? to me it isn't, but there are people who happily shell out for upgraded tickets for multiple dates + flights and hotels, and they definitely have a different point of view to me. I suppose it all comes down to how much disposable income you have... I have buggar all but maybe if I had more, then I'd be more like the other high rollers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzyslash Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Tom2112 said: True, but is it actually worth that much? to me it isn't, but there are people who happily shell out for upgraded tickets for multiple dates + flights and hotels, and they definitely have a different point of view to me. I suppose it all comes down to how much disposable income you have... I have buggar all but maybe if I had more, then I'd be more like the other high rollers It's irrelevant how much it's worth to you...I'm sure you have possessions that you feel are invaluable that others would feel are worthless. You're the one who said ticket prices should have s cap on them, you're the one who now understands the ticket prices are set at a value that will maximize profit for the promoter. Have a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 What about treating your fanbase with care in not ripping them off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnrcane Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: What about treating your fanbase with care in not ripping them off? People know what they are getting and willing pay the cost to see the show. Therefore, they aren't "ripping" anyone off. A rip-off would be if they advertised AFD5 and Izzy and Steven didn't show up. That's not what they did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Gnrcane said: People know what they are getting and willing pay the cost to see the show. Therefore, they aren't "ripping" anyone off. A rip-off would be if they advertised AFD5 and Izzy and Steven didn't show up. That's not what they did. I do not agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Not 300 dollars. 100 maybe. Should be a free show really. Edited July 12, 2017 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugachev Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 $300. If I had the chance to go back in time and see them in the late 80s, Id pay thousands. They just don't sound that great these days if I'm being completely honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 this question could have been posted by a secret live nation employee! well the current price is high enough. but I ll pay whatever they ask I suppose. I even know it wont be the same because it cannot be. the guys are not hungry for fame as they were in the 80 s. but hey its my fav line up and I only saw them live since UYI so I would be extremely happy and go and see them front of stage. there s not much bands out there anymore worth paying but GNR are and always will be for me. Bring it on Afd 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourettes2400 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I would love to see them, but I am not paying anymore than I already have to see them. This is already one of the most expensive tours out there. I mean, close to $300 a ticket for great/good seats is the max I am willing to pay. I saw Axl, Slash, Duff, and Steven Adler all together on the stage and it was worth it. I took a ton of pictures and got to be in the pit at the end of the cat walk,so it was worth the price. Don't get me wrong, I love GNR, but I am just not sure seeing the AFD5 would be worth the extra money that they would charge. Maybe if it is 1 or 2 shows, then I think I would consider it. If it was just going to be another hit or miss world tour, I am not sure if I would go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts