Padme Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 On 4/19/2021 at 11:08 AM, ToonGuns said: Worst. Idea. Ever. What's wrong with the status quo?! There are many things wrong with status quo. But this is not the way to fix it. That guy Perez who is Real Madrid president fucked it huge before. When the last World Cup was about to start, he stole the Spain Team Manager and brought him to HIS Real Madrid. Needless to say that Spain National Tean left earlier from the World Cup because they lost their Manager. On top of that it didn't go well for Real Madrid either. Perez is motherfucker piece of shit. I can't believe that other teams joined him in this moronic and ridiculous idea of this fuckin Super League! I do believe that many things can and must be changed for the better when it comes to football and profit. And I hope this is a wake up call. But it won't be greedy and corrupted teams Presidents/CEOs the right people to be in charged of change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Padme said: There are many things wrong with status quo. But this is not the way to fix it. That guy Perez who is Real Madrid president fucked it huge before. When the last World Cup was about to start, he stole the Spain Team Manager and brought him to HIS Real Madrid. Needless to say that Spain National Tean left earlier from the World Cup because they lost their Manager. On top of that it didn't go well for Real Madrid either. Perez is motherfucker piece of shit. I can't believe that other teams joined him in this moronic and ridiculous idea of this fuckin Super League! I do believe that many things can and must be changed for the better when it comes to football and profit. And I hope this is a wake up call. But it won't be greedy and corrupted teams Presidents/CEOs the right people to be in charged of change. Perez is piece of shit, yes, but that Laporta guy - he made a deal with him during election process in Barcelona (but didn't mention it)... Liverpool, Arsenal and MUTD owners are Amercians without any knowledge of football (said by themselves), Agnelli is Perez wannabe, and Milan/Inter owners are shady corporations(US/China) also not football connected. The rest followed in fear not to miss the (money) tran. Greed and trophy hunt by all (fans included) helped them to buy all these clubs... Maybe, current ownes will sell, but similar will buy. German model ("Regel 50+1" law that ensures that minimum of 50% + 1 share is in fans posession)is the only thing that can prevent it but not likely to spread accross Europe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, -Jaro- said: Perez is piece of shit, yes, but that Laporta guy - he made a deal with him during election process in Barcelona (but didn't mention it)... Liverpool, Arsenal and MUTD owners are Amercians without any knowledge of football (said by themselves), Agnelli is Perez wannabe, and Milan/Inter owners are shady corporations(US/China) also not football connected. The rest followed in fear not to miss the (money) tran. Greed and trophy hunt by all (fans included) helped them to buy all these clubs... Maybe, current ownes will sell, but similar will buy. German model ("Regel 50+1" law that ensures that minimum of 50% + 1 share is in fans posession)is the only thing that can prevent it but not likely to spread accross Europe. I didn't know Laporta made a deal during the election process. In fact I was surprised when I read he joined Perez in this bullshit League. Thanks, now I know why Still Perez was the one who brought this idea. Barcelona is in very bad shape because the previous President gave Messi an obscene huge contract in order to keep Messi in the team. They are penniless now. I knew about this system of fans share. But I don't know how it works. Nor I know how fans are in a position to buy stoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Padme said: I didn't know Laporta made a deal during the election process. In fact I was surprised when I read he joined Perez in this bullshit League. Thanks, now I know why Still Perez was the one who brought this idea. Barcelona is in very bad shape because the previous President gave Messi an obscene huge contract in order to keep Messi in the team. They are penniless now. I knew about this system of fans share. But I don't know how it works. Nor I know how fans are in a position to buy stoke They dont buy, they pay annual membership in non-profit organisation that own major share. The rest of it is owned by corporations/sponsors (in Bayern 75% by members/fans, the rest by addidas, audi, allianz).. There are exceptions: Bayer 04 Levercusen - owned by pharmaceuticals company Bayer, Wfl Wolfsburg - owned by VW and Hoffenheim - owned by Dietmar Hopp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Now Boris wants to put fans first https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/21/tell-us-how-should-football-be-reorganised-to-put-fans-first He wants to hear fans opinions and ideas And BTW... Where the fuck is @Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrayWyatt Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Ban the 12 from europe next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 hours ago, BrayWyatt said: Ban the 12 from europe next season. Eeerr... No! Come up with new ownership rules. Fans should have a say! On top of that, there should be some kind of salary cap system. Look at the NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrayWyatt Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Padme said: Eeerr... No! Come up with new ownership rules. Fans should have a say! On top of that, there should be some kind of salary cap system. Look at the NFL Those big 12 clubs wouldn't stand for a salary cup, look at Barcelona and Real Madrid who are a combined total of £800M in debt and they have signed Alaba on a huge 5 year deal and supposedly Mbappe on the way. Look at Man City, there is no way they are complying with current FFP regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, BrayWyatt said: Those big 12 clubs wouldn't stand for a salary cup, look at Barcelona and Real Madrid who are a combined total of £800M in debt and they have signed Alaba on a huge 5 year deal and supposedly Mbappe on the way. Look at Man City, there is no way they are complying with current FFP regulations. A salary cap would actually be doing them a favour but only if it applies to every club in every country. Money in football is only as ridiculous as it is through clubs paying ever higher salaries and transfer fees to outbid the competition. I'd go one step further and have a transfer fee limit of some kind on top of a salary cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, BrayWyatt said: Those big 12 clubs wouldn't stand for a salary cup, look at Barcelona and Real Madrid who are a combined total of £800M in debt and they have signed Alaba on a huge 5 year deal and supposedly Mbappe on the way. Look at Man City, there is no way they are complying with current FFP regulations. They must. Barcelona is broke!! The previous President spent a huge amount of money on Messi's contract. There is little left for anything else. And Real Madrid had a deal with JP Morgan because they are rebuilding their stadium. Now JP Morgan is not willing to keep going with that plan. On top of that the pandemic made things worst for them. And to football everywhere. Salary cap brings control over how much a given team can spend. Those "huge 5 year deals" are killing the teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 If clubs afford players salaries that aren't sustainable, then they deserve to go financially broke. The solution is simple, don't pay players too much. If that means you can't buy the Haalands and Mbappes and so on, then be it. Most clubs already operate with a limited budget and can't buy these players anyway. Now the big giants like Barca and RM will just have to make this lesson, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: If clubs afford players salaries that aren't sustainable, then they deserve to go financially broke. The solution is simple, don't pay players too much. If that means you can't buy the Haalands and Mbappes and so on, then be it. Most clubs already operate with a limited budget and can't buy these players anyway. Now the big giants like Barca and RM will just have to make this lesson, too. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/23/jp-morgan-misjudged-football-fans-over-european-super-league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, SoulMonster said: If clubs afford players salaries that aren't sustainable, then they deserve to go financially broke. The solution is simple, don't pay players too much. If that means you can't buy the Haalands and Mbappes and so on, then be it. Most clubs already operate with a limited budget and can't buy these players anyway. Now the big giants like Barca and RM will just have to make this lesson, too. This... Whay Messi must stay in Barcelona? Why would RM be entitled on Galactios. If they can afford it - no problems... And without Barcelona/RM pumping salaries and transfer fees - other clubs would spend much less because of chain reaction... Barcelona spent 500Mil € for Messi, bought Coutinho, Dembele, A.Turan and Griezmann for another 500 Mil - fuck them - eliminate them and let them do Fiorentina or Glasgow Rangers scenario... Then they would learn - this way - never. When economic crisis started in Europe - Spaniards were angry when some German polititian (maybe even A.Merkel) said: Why would we finance Spains depts when they put money in football clubs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Yeah, if no one can afford the most expensive players, and hence refuse to buy them because it would break their economy, then the prices of these players will be down-adjusted. That's the mechanism here. What we shouldn't accept is the big teams refusing to handle their economy more sustainable by coming up with terrible schemes like Super League to continue channeling more money into these clubs to sustain ever increasing salaries. It has got to stop, and if stupid clubs need to learn their lesson by going bankrupt, so be it. There are hundreds of smaller, more economically-wise clubs ready to step in and take over when the big ones falls under extreme salaries and ever-increasing debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin82 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Wembley is going to be busy this summer with Euros also up to 40k fans could be able TWO or is it TOO or TO lol attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 GET THEM GUNNERS!!! DON'T GIVE UP!!! https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/23/thousands-of-arsenal-fans-stage-protest-against-kroenke-outside-stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spunko12345 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 The Real Madrid president says young people are not interested in football anymore so that's why they need to change it. A. That is obvious bullshit designed to push his moneygrab through. B. If kids today are not interested in football then so what it's had a good run. Let them young cunts find something they are interested in and leave football to die with my generation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Trust an old out of touch dude to speak for young people... give me a break! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 10 hours ago, spunko12345 said: The Real Madrid president says young people are not interested in football anymore so that's why they need to change it. A. That is obvious bullshit designed to push his moneygrab through. B. If kids today are not interested in football then so what it's had a good run. Let them young cunts find something they are interested in and leave football to die with my generation. 8 hours ago, moreblack said: Trust an old out of touch dude to speak for young people... give me a break! Spot on!!! What Real Madrid President claims is that kids don't watch a game between Bulgaria and Romania teams. True! NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THAT!!! not only the young cunts as Real Madrid President says. Sure changes are necessary but the answer is not a Super League created by greedy assholes. We have the World Cup where players from Romania and Bulgaria can shine and eventualy Arsenal or Liverpool can grab them. How to fix the Champions League? Give the CHAMPION AND ONLY THE CHAMPION the right to play. Those who finish 2nd, 3rd and 4th place should fight for their right to participate with play off games among them or something like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Old Trafford pitch invaded Fans demostration against team owner Glazer It got a little bit out of control https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/02/manchester-united-fans-invade-old-trafford-pitch-during-glazer-out-protests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Are Fulham going to perform a miracle at Newcastle's expense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said: Are Fulham going to perform a miracle at Newcastle's expense? I hope not! Can't see it happening though to be honest. Surely a stretch too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, ToonGuns said: I hope not! Can't see it happening though to be honest. Surely a stretch too far. Are Newcastle going to win again this season? Leicester, City, Sheffield United & Fulham are left to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said: Are Newcastle going to win again this season? Leicester, City, Sheffield United & Fulham are left to play. Probably not. But I can't see Fulham getting 9 points either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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