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Celtic's greatest ever captain sadly passed away last night after a long battle with dementia. The first man hailing from the UK to lift the big cup. He's one of the most decorated players in the

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11 hours ago, BrayWyatt said:

What a goal by the way and the savilleites lost again to make it a better night.

Out of interest, not being someone who follows Scottish football, why’d you call em Savilleites? :lol: 

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16 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

Out of interest, not being someone who follows Scottish football, why’d you call em Savilleites? :lol: 

Probably the Catholic connection if I had to guess. :lol: 

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6 minutes ago, Dazey said:

Probably the Catholic connection if I had to guess. :lol: 

I'm gonna try and cack-handedly tie this together, catholic priests = pedos, Jimmy Saville = pedo?

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3 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

I'm gonna try and cack-handedly tie this together, catholic priests = pedos, Jimmy Saville = pedo?

That's my take on it. :lol: 

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7 minutes ago, Dazey said:

That's my take on it. :lol: 

Well your last name is McLeod!  Do you have any jock in your perchance, must do with that handle.

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4 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

Out of interest, not being someone who follows Scottish football, why’d you call em Savilleites? :lol: 

Child abuse has gone on at Celtic boys club for over 40 years, Celtic fc deny that they are affiliated with the boys club even though the paid the wages of the boys club managers and coaches. The boys club officials took a youth football team to Boston in the 90s for a fictitious football tournament which was in all accounts a paedophile party. 

All celtic managers including Jock Stein and Tommy Burns knew about this and said nothing (hence the saying 'big jock knew).

Scotlands top lawyers Thompsons are representatives for over 50 children who are suing Celtic fc.

A celtic boys club player Andrew Gray committed suicide as an adult due to the fact celtic fc would not admit responsibility.

There is a spotlight tv documentary about this, google all about this scandal.

SFA asked celtic to conduct an in-house enquiry about this and done fuck all.

All other fans of Scottish clubs sing that Celtic FC are known as paedos. 

Scottish national party done fuck all either as most of them are tims.

 

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31 minutes ago, BrayWyatt said:

Child abuse has gone on at Celtic boys club for over 40 years, Celtic fc deny that they are affiliated with the boys club even though the paid the wages of the boys club managers and coaches. The boys club officials took a youth football team to Boston in the 90s for a fictitious football tournament which was in all accounts a paedophile party. 

All celtic managers including Jock Stein and Tommy Burns knew about this and said nothing (hence the saying 'big jock knew).

Scotlands top lawyers Thompsons are representatives for over 50 children who are suing Celtic fc.

A celtic boys club player Andrew Gray committed suicide as an adult due to the fact celtic fc would not admit responsibility.

There is a spotlight tv documentary about this, google all about this scandal.

SFA asked celtic to conduct an in-house enquiry about this and done fuck all.

All other fans of Scottish clubs sing that Celtic FC are known as paedos. 

Scottish national party done fuck all either as most of them are tims.

 

I had no idea about any of that, thanks for telling me.  My range of understanding of the whole old firm thing is that like...Celtic represent like, the anti- England brigade being Catholics and Rangers represent like, the ones who side with England, being Protestant, or thats how it was explained to me when I asked someone to make sense of why Celtic have Palestine flags in the crowd and all that.

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8 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

I had no idea about any of that, thanks for telling me.  My range of understanding of the whole old firm thing is that like...Celtic represent like, the anti- England brigade being Catholics and Rangers represent like, the ones who side with England, being Protestant, or thats how it was explained to me when I asked someone to make sense of why Celtic have Palestine flags in the crowd and all that.

Sort of but it is more a mirror of Northern Ireland as most of the Jocks are infact not Scottish at all, but Irish migrants, so the Irish migrants, Unionist Calvinist-Protestants on the one hand and Fenian Catholics on the other, took their prejudices with them when migrating to Scotland. Most English don't understand these passions as we were (and some still are) wet Anglicans who watch Songs of Praise.

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13 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

 most of the Jocks are infact not Scottish at all, but Irish migrants, so the Irish migrants

Really?  So where's the real jocks?

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33 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Four of the buggers. Four jailed nonces in one youth team!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_football_sexual_abuse_scandal

Don’t find any nonces in cricket. Most of ‘em have already been buggered rotten at boarding school so it’s out of their system by then. 

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6 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

Really?  So where's the real jocks?

Scotland as we know it today was formed from four kingdoms: Pictland in the Northeast, Lothian in the Southeast, Strathclyde in the Southwest and Dal Riada in the Northwest.

The residents of Dal Riada were Gaelic-speakers who sailed across from Ireland and were called the Scotti by the Romans. Their kingdom was the one that the rest of Scotland unified under... but that was the best part of a millennium ago, so I don't think you could say that most present-day Scots were Irish migrants unless you're pursuing some insanely extremist ethno-nationalist ideal. 

Centuries later, while Ireland was under British rule, many Protestant Scots sailed over and settled in the North of the island as part of a social campaign to Protestant-ify it, and during the 19th Century, lots of Irish Catholics came over to Scotland looking for work, especially after the potato famine. This basically meant that there were strong links between the Protestant communities in Scotland and Ireland, and likewise the Catholic communities in both places. Celtic was founded by Irish Catholic clergy in Glasgow and became emblematic of the Irish migrant community, Protestant Scots gradually adopted Rangers as their equivalent club and the two institutions became bound up in a broader ethno-political dichotomy at the turn of the 20th Century. Because of the aforementioned links, Protestants/Unionists in Northern Ireland came to support Rangers and Catholics/Republicans adopted Celtic.

This meant that the footballing rivalry in Scotland became a proxy for the political conflict in Northern Ireland throughout the 20th Century - but Scotland is not Northern Ireland, Our society is far less binary, there is a 'hardcore support' of both clubs that would conform to the 'Rangers/Protestant/Unionist/Loyalist' and 'Celtic/Catholic/Nationalist/Republican' caricatures, but there are many thousands who don't and it hasn't been the dominating divide in Scottish politics. For most of the last 40 years, most Scottish people comfortably voted Labour irrespective of if they were Protestant or Catholic, Rangers or Celtic, because most of Scottish society was comfortably centre-left.

Likewise, the Scottish National Party was predominantly a Protestant (although not necessarily tied to Rangers-supporting Protestants) institution when it was founded, that was treated with suspicion by Labour-voting Irish Catholics, irrespective of their views about whether Northern Ireland should reunify with the Republic. The movement for Scottish independence remained mostly separate from the whole Rangers/Celtic thing, and indeed marginal from mainstream Scottish politics until the late 2000s when Labour's lack of ambition, cronyism, and drift to the right under Blair allowed the SNP to start outflanking them on the left and capture the mainstream of Scottish politics. This was compounded by the election of the Tory/LibDem coalition in 2010.

Since Independence has become a prominent issue, the hardcore supports I outlined above have mostly aligned themselves to one side or the other (Rangers to Unionism and Celtic to Nationalism) but it's not black and white, John Reid, who sits on Celtic's board was a big part of the 'no' campaign in 2014, and I know of loads of Rangers fans who voted 'yes', high-profile examples including singers Amy Macdonald and Simon Neil, or writer Alan Bissett. Despite the rhetoric, most people in Scotland don't let their football team decide their politics.

Also, why the fuck are we talking about this shit? Look at that goal! Why aren't we talking about actual football!

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7 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

Really?  So where's the real jocks?

I was being quasi-facetious but Glasgow, Lanarkshire and other areas certainly have a large Irish ancestry whose ancestors migrated here - especially in the wake of the potato famine - to swell Glasgow's burgeoning population in accordance with the Industrial Revolution (the exact same thing happened in Liverpool). They even brought with them the old sectaries, the Orange Order and Irish Republicans, both of whom you can see marching in Scotland today.

It is ironic as the original Ulster plantations (1606-) were more Scottish than English (Presbyterian Lowlanders). So basically you have circular immigration, with Scots settling in Northern Ireland in say 1606, but their ancestors settling back in Scotland in say 1850!

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8 hours ago, Dazey said:

Don’t find any nonces in cricket. Most of ‘em have already been buggered rotten at boarding school so it’s out of their system by then. 

There was a nonce arrested at one of my local cricket clubs. I think I may have posted about it here? I was trying to find the photo of the tweet but found this instead,

Rose in the Toon,

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Continuing with the football theme, Blyth Spartan's mascot (a fat kid dressed as an ehh Spartan) haha,

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On 10/23/2020 at 5:32 PM, Dazey said:

Don’t find any nonces in cricket. Most of ‘em have already been buggered rotten at boarding school so it’s out of their system by then. 

Bumming their fags at Eton. 

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