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1 minute ago, Len Cnut said:

Its not really, fact is football doesn’t evolve in this country, from the ground level up, the krauts, the brazillians, all the countries with a storied history in football, they change, they evolve, we were playing basically the same kinda football we played in the 60s in the 90s.

Take a country like Brazil, that amazing 80s generation who didn’t win nothing, were criticized for being defensively susceptible, addressed the issues, came back and smashed it, England just always played long ball take their legs out look at us we’re so hard type football, thats why were never win nothing.

Socrates? Arguably the best Brazilian side ever - certainly better than the 1994 one - and they didn't win a crumb. There are a lot of ''great'' teams who didn't quite make it. The Hungarians of the '50s and Dutch of the 1970s deserve mentions.

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46 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

Its not really, fact is football doesn’t evolve in this country, from the ground level up, the krauts, the brazillians, all the countries with a storied history in football, they change, they evolve, we were playing basically the same kinda football we played in the 60s in the 90s.

Take a country like Brazil, that amazing 80s generation who didn’t win nothing, were criticized for being defensively susceptible, addressed the issues, came back and smashed it, England just always played long ball take their legs out look at us we’re so hard type football, thats why were never win nothing.

I think it's a lot to do with club football being the main passion aswell in England and it's not geared to serving the national team really. I think a lot of fans of the big teams would put their clubs over England if they had a choice. Liverpool fans even take pride in the fact that they don't give a fuck about England being successful.

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1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said:

Socrates? Arguably the best Brazilian side ever - certainly better than the 1994 one - and they didn't win a crumb. There are a lot of ''great'' teams who didn't quite make it. The Hungarians of the '50s and Dutch of the 1970s deserve mentions.

My point is, great as they were (and they were great) they addressed whatever lackings they had as a national team and went on to win, we don't do that.  We have a different footballing culture here and the issues are from like...youth training levels up.

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4 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

My point is, great as they were (and they were great) they addressed whatever lackings they had as a national team and went on to win, we don't do that.  We have a different footballing culture here and the issues are from like...youth training levels up.

I'm not sure we deserve to win another one by right. Spain didn't win a world cup until 2010ish. The Dutch have never won one yet. These Belgians don't look capable either and people hype them up. The Argies haven't won a crumb since 1986. 

The England sides of the '90s and '00s probably did about all they could do really, albeit with some clueless managers as mitigating factors. 

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8 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

Arsenal are 7 weeks without a goal from open play in the league.  Wow.

Manchester United's inability to score from open play, something which has plagues the team since Ole took over and which was only temporarily solved when Fernandes came in, is back again, too. 

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My boy Joe Willock just stacked his motor.  Shocking behaviour, shocking way to carry on, setting an awful example for the youth.  That would be the youth into Grime and Drill, offing each other in record numbers all across London.  (I touched 120 on my way up north the other week in my brothers Jag, fuck me that car can fly :D)

On 11/24/2020 at 11:11 AM, YouCouldBeMine_2029 said:

Me to...:lol:

The Pressure on the Boy after those Headlines at the time must have been Immense.

He was a fuckin' wanker then and he's a wanker now, overrated as fuck.  That entire generation in fact, Wilshere, Oxlade Chamberlain, Walcott, Wenger put so much faith in those cunts, they were given chances and respect and oppertunities that young footballers dream of and what did they do?  Shit fuck all is what. 

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14 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

He was a fuckin' wanker then and he's a wanker now, overrated as fuck.  That entire generation in fact, Wilshere, Oxlade Chamberlain, Walcott, Wenger put so much faith in those cunts, they were given chances and respect and oppertunities that young footballers dream of and what did they do?  Shit fuck all is what. 

I have some vague memory of Walcott scoring a hat-trick for England. Must have been against Lichtenstein or someone similar.

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7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

It sees the true demise of the Man United v Arsenal duopoly considering the former are now mid-table mediocrity. Leicesters, 'Pewls, Man Cities and Spurses are the future. 

Were Arsenal every really dominant enough to be considered in any opoly? :lol:  We were always like...y’know, just sort of persevered and managed to do it a couple of times a decade...unless that decade was the 60s or the last one.

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1 minute ago, Len Cnut said:

Were Arsenal every really dominant enough to be considered in any opoly? :lol:  We were always like...y’know, just sort of persevered and managed to do it a couple of times a decade...unless that decade was the 60s or the last one.

I just remember it being Man U (Ferguson) v Arsenal (Wenger) during the '90s and '00s. That was basically the premier league in a nut shell. 

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