Jump to content

THE OFFICIAL PROPER FOOTBALL THREAD 2020/21


Len Cnut

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, BrayWyatt said:

Those big 12 clubs wouldn't stand for a salary cup, look at Barcelona and Real Madrid who are a combined total of £800M in debt and they have signed Alaba on a huge 5 year deal and supposedly Mbappe on the way. Look at Man City, there is no way they are complying with current FFP regulations.

A salary cap would actually be doing them a favour but only if it applies to every club in every country. Money in football is only as ridiculous as it is through clubs paying ever higher salaries and transfer fees to outbid the competition. I'd go one step further and have a transfer fee limit of some kind on top of a salary cap.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, BrayWyatt said:

Those big 12 clubs wouldn't stand for a salary cup, look at Barcelona and Real Madrid who are a combined total of £800M in debt and they have signed Alaba on a huge 5 year deal and supposedly Mbappe on the way. Look at Man City, there is no way they are complying with current FFP regulations.

They must. Barcelona is broke!! The previous President spent a huge amount of money on Messi's contract. There is little left for anything else. And Real Madrid had a deal with JP Morgan because they are rebuilding their stadium. Now JP Morgan is not willing to keep going with that plan. On top of that the pandemic made things worst for them. And to football everywhere.

Salary cap brings control over how much a given team can spend. Those "huge 5 year deals" are killing the teams!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If clubs afford players salaries that aren't sustainable, then they deserve to go financially broke. The solution is simple, don't pay players too much. If that means you can't buy the Haalands and Mbappes and so on, then be it. Most clubs already operate with a limited budget and can't buy these players anyway. Now the big giants like Barca and RM will just have to make this lesson, too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

50 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

If clubs afford players salaries that aren't sustainable, then they deserve to go financially broke. The solution is simple, don't pay players too much. If that means you can't buy the Haalands and Mbappes and so on, then be it. Most clubs already operate with a limited budget and can't buy these players anyway. Now the big giants like Barca and RM will just have to make this lesson, too.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/apr/23/jp-morgan-misjudged-football-fans-over-european-super-league

:wacko: :no: :facepalm:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

If clubs afford players salaries that aren't sustainable, then they deserve to go financially broke. The solution is simple, don't pay players too much. If that means you can't buy the Haalands and Mbappes and so on, then be it. Most clubs already operate with a limited budget and can't buy these players anyway. Now the big giants like Barca and RM will just have to make this lesson, too.

This... Whay Messi must stay in Barcelona? Why would RM be entitled on Galactios. If they can afford it - no problems... 

And without Barcelona/RM pumping salaries and transfer fees - other clubs would spend much less because of chain reaction... 

Barcelona spent 500Mil € for Messi, bought Coutinho, Dembele, A.Turan and Griezmann for another 500 Mil - fuck them - eliminate them and let them do Fiorentina or Glasgow Rangers scenario... Then they would learn - this way - never.

When economic crisis started in Europe - Spaniards were angry when some German polititian (maybe even A.Merkel) said: Why would we finance Spains depts when they put money in football clubs...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah, if no one can afford the most expensive players, and hence refuse to buy them because it would break their economy, then the prices of these players will be down-adjusted. That's the mechanism here. What we shouldn't accept is the big teams refusing to handle their economy more sustainable by coming up with terrible schemes like Super League to continue channeling more money into these clubs to sustain ever increasing salaries. It has got to stop, and if stupid clubs need to learn their lesson by going bankrupt, so be it. There are hundreds of smaller, more economically-wise clubs ready to step in and take over when the big ones falls under extreme salaries and ever-increasing debt. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Real Madrid president says young people are not interested in football anymore so that's why they need to change it. 

A. That is obvious bullshit designed to push his moneygrab through. 

B. If kids today are not interested in football then so what it's had a good run. Let them young cunts find something they are interested in and leave football to die with my generation. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, spunko12345 said:

The Real Madrid president says young people are not interested in football anymore so that's why they need to change it. 

A. That is obvious bullshit designed to push his moneygrab through. 

B. If kids today are not interested in football then so what it's had a good run. Let them young cunts find something they are interested in and leave football to die with my generation. 

 

8 hours ago, moreblack said:

Trust an old out of touch dude to speak for young people... give me a break!

Spot on!!! What Real Madrid President claims is that kids don't watch a game between  Bulgaria and Romania teams. True! NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THAT!!! not only the young cunts as Real Madrid President says. Sure changes are necessary but the answer is not a Super League created  by greedy assholes.  We have the World Cup where players from Romania and Bulgaria can shine and eventualy Arsenal or Liverpool can grab them.

How to fix the Champions League? Give the CHAMPION AND ONLY THE CHAMPION the right to play. Those who finish 2nd, 3rd and 4th place should fight for their right to participate with  play off games among them or something like it

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
26 minutes ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Are Fulham going to perform a miracle at Newcastle's expense?

I hope not!

Can't see it happening though to be honest. Surely a stretch too far.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Are Newcastle going to win again this season?

Leicester, City, Sheffield United & Fulham are left to play. 

Probably not. But I can't see Fulham getting 9 points either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Four points from our final four games and that's being optimistic.

Toon will finish 17th. Literally the minimum possible effort to stay up, again. I remember when I was at Uni 37% was the pass mark for year 1 and you didn't get extra credit for high marks as your overall results reset in year 2 (year 2 onwards actually counted towards the degree, year 1 didn't) so me and my mates used to joke that we should aim to get 37-40% and no more, as that was a pass. Anything higher was still a "pass" but you didnt get any extra credit for high scores so it was a waste of good drinking time over-revising. Of course we were joking, but that's literally the NUFC / Sports Direct Utd philosophy under Mike - aim for 37%.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, ToonGuns said:

Toon will finish 17th. Literally the minimum possible effort to stay up, again. I remember when I was at Uni 37% was the pass mark for year 1 and you didn't get extra credit for high marks as your overall results reset in year 2 (year 2 onwards actually counted towards the degree, year 1 didn't) so me and my mates used to joke that we should aim to get 37-40% and no more, as that was a pass. Anything higher was still a "pass" but you didnt get any extra credit for high scores so it was a waste of good drinking time over-revising. Of course we were joking, but that's literally the NUFC / Sports Direct Utd philosophy under Mike - aim for 37%.

What would you like to happen & what do you think will happen to Bruce should we stay up?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

What would you like to happen & what do you think will happen to Bruce should we stay up?

Can you see any other prem club employing Bruce?

Equally can you see any other prem manager joining NUFC in the current set up?

We have the worst manager (statistically) and the worst owner. No other reputable manager will want the job after the way Rafa was handled, so no point removing Bruce without new owners.

That's the main issue. Without new owners I don't see any solution other than Bruce continuing another year and probably another 15th-17th position finish next year / mediocre season. The only exception/ unknown is fans returning, as I think St James Park could get hostile if we have another season of dross. Man U fans have set a precedent for others to follow.

What really winds me up is - why wasnt Rafa given a net spend to invest in players? Rafa has to break even, but Bruce can spend £100m? It makes no sense. The club is rotten top to bottom.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 hours ago, ToonGuns said:

Can you see any other prem club employing Bruce?

Equally can you see any other prem manager joining NUFC in the current set up?

We have the worst manager (statistically) and the worst owner. No other reputable manager will want the job after the way Rafa was handled, so no point removing Bruce without new owners.

That's the main issue. Without new owners I don't see any solution other than Bruce continuing another year and probably another 15th-17th position finish next year / mediocre season. The only exception/ unknown is fans returning, as I think St James Park could get hostile if we have another season of dross. Man U fans have set a precedent for others to follow.

What really winds me up is - why wasnt Rafa given a net spend to invest in players? Rafa has to break even, but Bruce can spend £100m? It makes no sense. The club is rotten top to bottom.

Palace perhaps.

Dyche comes to mind but haven't Burnley just had a takeover?

If the world hadn't been on fire and fans were allowed in I imagine fans would have helped in having Bruce sacked after our defeats to Brentford and Sheffield United.

I read today that 10K fans will be allowed at St James' for our final home game. The atmosphere will be interesting.

A few players are out of contract at the end of the season. I don't know who would want to replace them.

Fever dream; resign Armstrong and Toney and build them up to become the second coming of Ferdinand & Shearer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That upcoming Alex Ferguson movie is a tremendous watch. Highly recommend - it's out there currently for those who don't want to wait two weeks.

I was surprised to know that Jim Leighton hasn't spoken to him since leaving United after being dropped for a number of calamities. Ferguson at one point branded him the best in Britain while at Aberdeen, but he was Roy Carroll before Roy Carroll at United.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Dean said:

That upcoming Alex Ferguson movie is a tremendous watch. Highly recommend - it's out there currently for those who don't want to wait two weeks.

I was surprised to know that Jim Leighton hasn't spoken to him since leaving United after being dropped for a number of calamities. Ferguson at one point branded him the best in Britain while at Aberdeen, but he was Roy Carroll before Roy Carroll at United.

Just saw the trailer. Looks good
 

Edited by moreblack
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, moreblack said:

Just saw the trailer. Looks good
 

OK just watched it, it was good. A lot of alternate angles to goals that I've internalized in my memory.

Surprised they didn't talk of his time at the 1986 World Cup.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...