axlinkafayette Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) What a stumble upon this is Found it on youtube and many of the songs as in their raw form and sound better than the finished product. Leave your comments on what sounds differently to you all.. For me, i had NEVER heard a studio version of the full Ain't goin down. November rain and The Garden are a tad slower and better i think. Don't Damn me is unfinished and really different All in all, this is something to hear after 25 years and having heard the other versions hundreds of times each. Raw and refreshing. Probably what Slash referred to as what he heard the albums as before they were massively worked over. The tempo of most of the songs is most definitely slower Edited November 21, 2017 by axlinkafayette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 shut up and take my money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Weird that the rough mix of 14 years is missing That guys got a great channel by the way That version of 14 Years is ace, makes me remember how much I want to see it live again Edited November 21, 2017 by StrangerInThisTown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientEvil80 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Once again, man, those tracks with Steven on drums Would have made them much better songs altogether... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post estrangedtwat Posted November 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just to reiterate what we've been over many, many times....the Estranged piano "demo" on this bootleg is a fake. It's a cover version. It's not Axl. Just cause it's on a bootleg CD doesn't make it real. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 35 minutes ago, AncientEvil80 said: Once again, man, those tracks with Steven on drums Would have made them much better songs altogether... steven on drums where, its all matt on these tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientEvil80 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, ludurigan said: steven on drums where, its all matt on these tracks Nope, didn't listen to the whole thing but DDM, Locomotive, GOE with Steven are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juventino Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, ludurigan said: steven on drums where, its all matt on these tracks The Mates rehearsal session is included, which has Steven on drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, estrangedtwat said: Just to reiterate what we've been over many, many times....the Estranged piano "demo" on this bootleg is a fake. It's a cover version. It's not Axl. Just cause it's on a bootleg CD doesn't make it real. This is really the downside of the internet. People spot a bootleg and think they can "make it better" by adding shit they haven't properly researched. People keep putting together their own bootleg and fake shit gets mixed in with the real stuff. I'll take the classic more trustworthy boots any time. Stuff like Mates and Rumbo Tapes. Or stuff like The Story Vol. 1 and 2 or Unreleased Tracks vol 1 through 6. Any uneducated tit can put stuff on YouTube and pretend it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, tremolo said: It would be a shame not to have a re-release of UYI for its 30th anniversary: the 2 original albums remastered, bonus discs with demos and outtakes, br/dvd with all videos from the era, a pro-shot full concert, etc. They could do so much with the material they have, offer a fucking amazing box, make the fans happy and make some dough. BUT it is GNR we’re talking about, so the odds of it happening are close to zero. It’d be a shame not to have anything for the AFD 30th anniversar- oh...damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 That Bad Obsession! Dang Izzy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlinkafayette Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Have you guys noticed the slower tempos of a lot of the songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Nice to hear, but this isn't the raw version of UYI that Slash always raved about. Those don't exist anymore. You can read in Slash's autobiography how he left the studio after finishing overdubs with the best sounding version of Illusion. Before Axl had Mike Clink putting all sorts of SFX and keyboards on it. He said they were entirely different records. Slash reiterated this point over the years in various interviews. Telling journalists that if they wanted to hear those albums they way they should have been, they could come over to his house and listen, as only he had those rough mixes. Somewhere down the road, Slash lost them. He now deeply regrets that those cannot be reclaimed and fondly recalls how they sounded. So, as far as demos and bootlegs go, theses may be interesting, but they're not the beasts that get put on a pedestal. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, AncientEvil80 said: Nope, didn't listen to the whole thing but DDM, Locomotive, GOE with Steven are there. ok, you mean mates live rehearsal 1989 i thought this thread was about raw uyi demos or unproduced takes aka axl advances copy aka use your illusion outtakes etc etc etc there are no demos circulating with steven on drums from use your illusion sessions as far as i know 7 hours ago, Juventino said: The Mates rehearsal session is included, which has Steven on drums. sure ok, you mean mates live rehearsal 1989 i thought this thread was about raw uyi demos or unproduced takes aka axl advances copy aka use your illusion outtakes etc etc etc there are no demos circulating with steven on drums from use your illusion sessions as far as i know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 i throughed the Estranged (piano only) demo is fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Bronchitis Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On 21/11/2017 at 2:08 PM, ludurigan said: there are no demos circulating with steven on drums from use your illusion sessions as far as i know I would looooove to hear an actual demo of let's say "You could be mine" or a working version of "Pretty tied up" Izzy on vocals maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) On 21.11.2017 at 4:55 PM, axlinkafayette said: Have you guys noticed the slower tempos of a lot of the songs? Happens when things are transfered from tape, cassettes Edited November 24, 2017 by StrangerInThisTown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 The production is great on these two albums, Slash wanted it "rawer"? Fair enough, but they did the job, they sound great to me even now. They don't sound dated to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWEROSES Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Double Talkin Jive is just pure awesome. How can you not tap your foot and bob your head to this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, WWEROSES said: Double Talkin Jive is just pure awesome. How can you not tap your foot and bob your head to this? It's fucking awesome! And even better live! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I don't think these sound better than the finished product at all. They sound raw and unproduced. The production on the final album is great, why anyone would want to listen to these low quality demos instead is unknown to me. It would maybe make sense if we had higher quality recorded demos but these aren't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Nasty Bronchitis said: I would looooove to hear an actual demo of let's say "You could be mine" or a working version of "Pretty tied up" Izzy on vocals maybe. SAME HERE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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