ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 - the fact that slash makes this 30 minutes jam very listenable -- and even great at more than one time -- just shows obviously, how great slash soloing is - is brent fitz the hardest-working man in the show business? - most of the times a guitar solo is just as good as what is happening "behind" it. if the band keeps playing the same loop "behind" the solo for 30 minutes with no changes whatsoever then no matter how great is the solo "over" it, it will get boring pretty fast. I cant believe they played the exact same part with no changes (except in intensity) for the entire duration of this jam! - is brent fitz a machine? - i dont like a bit that slash seems to abandon more and more his GNR-style of playing melodic lead guitar with less notes (and adding a flurry of notes when the song asks for). It seems to me that Slash goes more and more for the noodling/shredding/million-notes-per-second thing on a lot of his jams and that hardly sounds great to me - should brent fitz make extra money when SMKC does 30 minutes rocket queen jams on tour? - slash should tell the light man to turn off the lights on the other musicians during this jam. its pretty obvious by their faces and their body language that they are not having any kind of fun playing this infinite loop and that they are truly hoping for that to be over asap (you can see this type of body language on the aerosmith guys do when they are playing some of those ballads that no one in the band wants to play except for steven tyler). - how is that slash accepts playing with frank ferrer after playing with three of the best drummers ever steven adler, matt sorum and brent fitz? - why is the rhythm player doing nothing? he pretty much doesnt play at all for the first few minutes and then he starts playing power chords and keeps on playing them forever. i dont know what is worse: having him doing this or having him trying to imitate or emulate the best rhythm guitar player ever. maybe the legenday GNR guitar duels should be left untouched until slash and izzy make they happen again onstage? - will GNR work with axl, izzy, slash, duff and brent fitz when steven adler breaks his hand in the 2021 reunion tour? - i am a bit sorry that slash (and GNR) didnt make 30 minutes jam like this in the GNR era. I am pretty sure that izzy, duff and steven (yeah, even matt) would know how to keep things interesting "behind" slash. i am also pretty sure he wouldn't play that many notes! - is brent fitz too busy this month? I know he plays on many bands. thing is i know this band that is recording two demos and they need a drummer who can keep the beat! - yeah i still hope slash and izzy and dufd and steven (yeah, ok, it can be matt or brent!) will grace us with a doesnt-matter-how-long rocket queen jam in this lifetime. hopefully axl can be onstage with them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 oh shit @Tom-Ass mods changed the title thread! i thought this only happened to me! the title of this thread was at least 18 times better than the slash solo! how was it again? "bucketfoot... dj tracy... bumble huge... hahaha" it was something like that hysterical fun! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: I love Slash (duh) and I love noodling so I can tolorate it and think its cool but it got wayyy too long by 2015. Dragged my gf to the show and she literally fell asleep during it. I prefer the NITL versions. Still a lot of lead guitar going on there, too Anyways, I want some new Slash studio shit now. Fucking GNR I prefer the shorter versions from 2001 and 2002. Bucket's version of the last solo was intense. I also liked Pitman's synth additions to the songs. Edited February 25, 2018 by Sosso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 16 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Made it 7mins in.... TOO! LONG! I don't care who's playing guitar, it could be the resurrected Jimi Hendrix, I still don't want to hear 30 minutes of noodling... and that's what that is, in case you're thinking it's something else. I don't mind a longer than usual solo in RQ, IF he has to do it... but I'd almost leave the gig if he did that while I was there for 20+ minutes. For me, the really long solo just kills the impact of the rest of the song. Finally, say what you want but at least those guys had the musical sense not to bore a crowd for 30 minutes with doodles, 2/3/4 minutes of solos and they wrapped it up. Nobody payed £30/60 to hear a 25 min guitar solo, not even people who adore the whole off Slash. There's something about certain guitar players as they age, losing their sensibilities for what people want to hear. i agree with most of the things you say except that i would be very, very glad to listen to slash and izzy (backed by duff and steven or brent fitz!) jamming for 30 hours or 30 days not on the same song and much less on an infinite loop of the same little part of a song i know izzy would/could do a lot of chord changes and progressions and what not to keep things interesting like they used to be in GNR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: You all took it off track.. But this if only miles wasnt singing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, ludurigan said: if only miles wasnt singing it! I don't like him either. Does that mean that we finally have something in common? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Order of Nine said: Why he couldn't record something like this since 95 just makes me shake my head. great stuff though i must say that the band behind slash (specially the rhythm guitar guy) keeps things very, very predictable this sounds like slash playing with a las vegas cassino band if you ask me top players but missing that "thing" that some rockers have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Order of Nine said: I'd love to hear him do some blues standards, and come up with something in that style as well. Little wing, the thrill is gone, stuff like that. I really thought he did a good rendition of Johnny b good on the NITL tour. As soon as I heard it I thought "why have you never recorded something like this!' what about little queenie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Order of Nine said: Yeah I guess that's one of the things he's done that's been the most blues based. I forgot about the horns, it gives it that Brian setzer orchestra vibe. I forgot about this singer he jammed with too, she KILLS it coolest thing about slash threads is that someone always points you to one jam he did that you never heard about! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 hours ago, The Glow Inc. said: He is an amazing blues-rock guitarist but not much more so when a blues rock jam lasts for half an hour with zero change of tonality, modality, scale, no surprises whatsoever just basically the same song for half an hour, then yeah it gets stale real fast. exactly its not even just "the same song" its actually slash soloing over an infinite loop of a very specific little part of that song that loops forever in an infinite loop that is looping like it never ends forever looping oh shit seriously, slash should say "go get a beer" to miles and play the solo over the entire song, including the vocal parts now THAT would be something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tsinindy Posted February 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2018 17 hours ago, Sosso said: He could never beat Bucket's live performances during the concerts in 2001 and 2002 You're drunk again, go home 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: For some it is noodling. For others it's a really great slow starting jam that increases into the monster it is. It's 30 minutes of my favorite guitarist rocking the shit out of his guitar. I could listen to this all day long without getting bored. Every Slash show I attended was killer from start to finish and RQ was always a highlight. Standing there in the audience, throwing my head back, closing my eyes and listen to the man himself playing that incredible solo was just phenomenal. This one, the godfather, his blues jams before the godfather, the jams between Double Talkin Jive and Civil War back in the day... that were always highlights to me. To the rest... go watch BH fucking with Nightrain while he took the soul out of this song with his performances. Go watch Fink raping SCOM... or watch DJ ridiculously trying to play Patience. i sorta agree, i just wish the band "behind" slash was doing something else other than playing an infinite loop of the same little section of the song forever in an loop that never ends because it keeps on looping forever in this crazy loop that goes on and on again and again and again 4 hours ago, scooby845 said: when did he say that? i need to apply for the izzy school of rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) It's a nice lunch break for the rest of the band, though. Chicken vindaloo all around. Edited February 25, 2018 by jekylhyde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 hours ago, scooby845 said: when did he say that? Total Guitar 2001 https://izzystradlin.wixsite.com/unofficial/copy-of-guns-roses-bad-boys-give-i-30 Maybe it was his response to all the '92/93 interviews where Slash was trashing him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, ludurigan said: i agree with most of the things you say except that i would be very, very glad to listen to slash and izzy (backed by duff and steven or brent fitz!) jamming for 30 hours or 30 days not on the same song and much less on an infinite loop of the same little part of a song i know izzy would/could do a lot of chord changes and progressions and what not to keep things interesting like they used to be in GNR I could listen to that too, could be interesting, when all of those guys get together good things tend to happen. I'd like to add in another guitar player to cap it off, of there's going to be no vocals.... Add some different perspectives solo wise. You can choose😁 Now, I'd want a few breaks in between too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, ludurigan said: i sorta agree, i just wish the band "behind" slash was doing something else other than playing an infinite loop of the same little section of the song forever in an loop that never ends because it keeps on looping forever in this crazy loop that goes on and on again and again and again But you know, it's a damn hot little loop and this loop was written by your favorite musicans, that's why it sounds so good at all and because it sounds so good it's totally reasonable this loop never ends as long Slash is playing over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I fucking love it!! Anastasia from Sydney is my favourite though @Tom-Ass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: But you know, it's a damn hot little loop and this loop was written by your favorite musicans, that's why it sounds so good at all and because it sounds so good it's totally reasonable this loop never ends as long Slash is playing over it. yes, i have to agree here, if you have to pick a small section to loop it forever and to solo over it, then that section is definitely a fantastic choice but if i was slash i would never solo over a loop like that any guitar player that chooses to solo over a boring section -- even the best, like slash, or even the best sections looped forever -- will always paint him/herself into a corner thats exactly the reason why slash's albums are not much more popular than they are -- most of the things happening "behind" slash solos are just half good if i was slash i would choose to solo over the entire song instead remove the vocals, keep the basic structure, extend a few parts (bars) here and there, and there you have it i actually would like much more -- like at least 18 millions times more -- if slash never hires any other singer for his (so far very disappointing vocal-wise) solo career and instead play solos in the place of the vocals on all of his songs, GNR songs, VR songs and any other songs he wants to play! yes, soloing for the entire song. i'd much rather have slash doing that! if i was his manager id advise him to do that no, i would actually force him to do that! Edited February 25, 2018 by ludurigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, jekylhyde said: It's a nice lunch break for the rest of the band, though. Chicken vindaloo all around. except for brent 1 hour ago, Tom2112 said: I could listen to that too, could be interesting, when all of those guys get together good things tend to happen. I'd like to add in another guitar player to cap it off, of there's going to be no vocals.... Add some different perspectives solo wise. You can choose😁 Now, I'd want a few breaks in between too. another guitar player? not sure if thats necessary or wanted but yeah maybe duff could play guitar and let izzy solo a bit hahahahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ludurigan said: yes, i have to agree here, if you have to pick a small section to loop it forever and to solo over it, then that section is definitely a fantastic choice but if i was slash i would never solo over a loop like that id solo over the entire song instead remove the vocals, keep the basic structure and extend a few parts (bars) here and there, and there you have it i actually would like much more -- like at least 18 millions times more -- if slash never hires any other singer for his (so far very disappointing vocal-wise) solo career and instead play solos in the place of the vocals on all of his songs, GNR songs, VR songs and any other songs he wants to play! yes, soloing for the entire song. i'd much rather have slash doing that! if i was his manager id advise him to do that no, i would actually force him to do that! Well, I'm happy he did what he did because there are many many songs that I don't want to miss anymore. With Snakepit, VR, solo or as a guest... There are countless great songs he has written/he plays on that are fantastic as they are. Obviously Myles wouldn't be my first choice since a lot of songs suffer from his vocals IMO, but overall I love Slash's records as they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, janrichmond said: I fucking love it!! Anastasia from Sydney is my favourite though @Tom-Ass Mine too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, ludurigan said: coolest thing about slash threads is that someone always points you to one jam he did that you never heard about! I absolutely love the song "hey Joe" so I'm all over that. It's been done by everyone from Gary Moore, Bodycount, to Steve Winwood. One of my all time favorite blues based songs ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Sosso said: I don't like him either. Does that mean that we finally have something in common? I'm in that boat too. His voice is annoying and very irritating to me. The faster he pronounces the words he sings the worse it gets for me too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmenjello Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 On 25.2.2018 at 4:36 AM, Sosso said: He could never beat Bucket's live performances during the concerts in 2001 and 2002 Please dont call yourself a gnr fan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMAC20 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 20 hours ago, Gibson_Guy87 said: Noodling isn't a masterpiece. I've been a huge Slash fan since I was 14 but the 30 minute solo was overkill. Everyone has there likes and dislikes = all cool -I can listen to Slash noodling all concert long - I am a guitar player too , noodling is what we do , I grew up on EVH -SLASH-DIMEBAG-ZAKK WYLDE-VAI so noodling is part of my life and I LOVE IT AND ALWAYS WILL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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