Sydney Fan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: 'I love to play rock n' roll and I love to play for beautiful people and as far as I'm concerned the most beautiful people in the world that love to rock are in Australia.' Two things you can count on with Steven: his jaw-dropping hyperbole and plugging his mother's book. Naturally, he's brought Mum along on tour for a 'special' Q&A complete with 'no bullshit answers' from them both. Heck, you'd think his mother was the sixth member of the band the way he touts her. I find the guy about as sincere as a used car salesman, but I don't blame him for speaking out and harbouring resentment. You would be bloody bitter. You just would be. It's his band, yet he's excluded from it. If there ever was a remote chance of him being brought back into the fold, I'd say that chance is now dead in the water. Axl and co. handled the whole Steven situation incredibly badly. Sure, he's a liability, but I find it difficult to believe with their history of 'personal liabilities' that they couldn't have found some way to accommodate him. They just couldn't be arsed, or didn't want to try finding a way, and put him in the too hard basket. Izzy? Who knows with him. I'm inclined to think it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. Izzy’s no push over and I doubt he’s ‘heartbroken’. 'I love to play rock n' roll and I love to play for beautiful people and as far as I'm concerned the most beautiful people in the world that love to rock are in Australia.' Now now!!. I firmly believe outside of NA and SA Australia GNR has the third biggest fan base. I have a gut feel we will see them here late this year after the Europe shows. I was not sure to see him when adlers appetite play here but because he's brining his mother down and in which case im sure he will use that part of the tour to bad mouth the rest of the group (deserving or not) . I have no desire now to see him. Edited April 13, 2018 by Sydney Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousStyles Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Steven Adler, professional drummer....and rustler! I approve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I think Axl should have swollowed his pride and done the AFD5 show by now. If Axl really wanted to close the book on AFD5 and move on from that part of his past forever, they could have done it last year. Put the NITL dates back by one month so the last LA show is in November, then 2 weeks later do a 4 date show in theatres/clubs in the US just like they did for the theatre shows in 91. Charge as much for the privilidge to allow the fans to see them then close the book on AFD5 forever. Then Axl now has a chance to look into the future (if there will be one) with whatever lineup will be GNR and not have the AFD5 past following him like a shadow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Nothing positive ever came from airing dirty laundry publicly in the media. I seriously doubt after reading this, and Adler's brother's idiot ravings that Slash, Axl and Duff are going to have a miraculous change of heart and run over each other scrambling to apologize to Adler and beg him to come be a member of GNR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: He is listed as a co-writer.. His drumming on that album is iconic.. His contributions to songs like Brownstone, Jungle and Paradise City are more than noticeable and the songs wouldn't be the same without them. He was also on an 8 song masterpiece called LIES and was involved with the creation of many of the Illusions songs.. Songs that in the end would have sounded better with him on them. His drumming on that album has held up well compared to what a lot of drumming had become in the 80s. Over produced, terrible sounding echoey crap. His drumming was a mix of punk, rock, metal, bluesy, groovy, funk stuff. I think people who play in bands know how they work, what makes things unique and how songs / drum parts are written. There is a real blend of style between the different sections of the songs, they still sound great today. I’d put my life on the fact that while Slash Izzy & Duff were jamming on acoustics, Steven was banging on pillows or pizza boxes with his sticks feeling out the song, and suggesting how many beats something should go for and how to transition between the intro/verse/bridge/solos.... Listen to him jam locomotive during that mates rehearsal! That’s the difference between Appetite & Illusions. Sorum was more plodding, his drum sound was shit though in his defence on the illusions tour... Songs like Don’t Cry sounded better with though with Steven behind the kit than the epic ballad shit they became with Sorum Steven was a big part of the bands sound if you know what you are hearing. Probably his greatest accomplishment in GNR was he a made the fucking cowbell sound acceptable. It was there in a cool Stones’y kinda way, and not in a Will Ferrell / reaper way... It gave them a unique quality as did all the rest of the guys with their nuances. I guess if all you hear is the dude singing and maybe some guitar your gonna think “what the fuck, I could be a drummer it’s piss easy, he just sits there” It’s Like he’s the Homer of the operation. Well he is. But he can do one thing. Play the bollocks out of the drums. He’s a genuine guy in he holds nothing back, he describes it in the wrong way, and with too much detail but he’s essentially an ok guy. But he’s also a bag of spiders that’s been set loose, he’s akin to having a conversation with 18 chihuahuas.... that fucker will live until he’s 100. He’s too fucking happy. I couldn’t be around him for any longer than 90 seconds before something bad might happen. 😂 Its obvious the guy never grew up. Cmon dude. It’s 2018...., average suburbia is doing drugs, having threesomes and drinking. Shut the fuck up and get on with it. It’s a part of life, but so is going to work and getting some shit done. He clearly can’t do that. He’s like a child. Slash, Duff & Izzy could get their shit done. Not Steven. I doubt that will ever change. But his contribution to the bands sound is there on any number of songs in any number of ways to be heard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Adler should seriously stop mentioning 'The Four Agreements' in interviews from now on. He isn't really adhering to them in any imaginable way The Four Agreements are: 1. Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love. 2. Don’t Take Anything Personally Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering. 3. Don’t Make Assumptions Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life. 4. Always Do Your Best Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse, and regret. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jekylhyde Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 Steven Adler: tells everybody he's been sober for this many years, has no resentments, poses friendly with Frank and Melissa. Also Steven Adler: smokes pot after the first show, airs dirty laundry in public, belittles people behind their backs. Would you, being 50+ and having your own things to deal with too, want to tour with this kind of a person? And some people applaud him for speaking his mind. Integrity and shooting straight are really good character traits, but Steven just runs his mouth and blurts out his every thought. He seems like he doesn't have a filter. And the world doesn't work like that, you can't just say everything you think. When working with other people, you need to know how to be diplomatic. It's not about lying or being a yes man, it's about knowing what arguments and fights are beneficial for the bigger picture. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) I laughed the other day. A fb group am a admit on is doing a interview with adler for his upcoming Australian tour. This what his manger sent to us Edited April 13, 2018 by Gibbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sunrise Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Gibbo said: I laughed the other day. A fb group am a admit on is doing a interview with adler for his upcoming Australian tour. This what his manger sent to us Picture is not showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lio Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gibbo said: Still not showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) @Gibbo photobucket doesn't work. You can see your pictures but you have to pay (a lot) in order to share them. Try another host like https://imgbox.com/ Edited April 13, 2018 by Blackstar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) I mean technically Adler should recognize Fortus, since he saw new guns in 2006 before he actually talked to Axl in private Edited April 13, 2018 by Mendez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGeneral Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: How do you know what he said in person? And why does it take balls? He is just saying he was heartbroken.. I wrote I THINK. I don't KNOW anything. Steven just seems like the kind of guy who would be nice to your face pretending there's no problem and then he'll speak his mind behind your back. I could imagine he doesn't want to confront Axl in person because he knows Slash and Duff will have Axls back and it will only ruin things for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Tom2112 Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Entitled to his opinion. However, whether he or anyone else likes it or not, some of those "who are these people" members have been in the band for the guts of 20yrs... They haven't wrote the classic songs people know and love, but neither have a lot of musicians who come in to fill the spots of replaced members. From guns perspective or at least Axls... Steven has always been a handful, he has always given him trouble... Frank has been a loyal and easy to work with drummer who just does his job and gets on with it... Easy decision, regardless of who makes AFD songs swing better. As for Izzy, in the last 25yrs he has shown absolutely no interest in touring in any way as heavily as what gnr did on that nitl tour. He jumps in and out , changes his mind and and then the rest of them have to pick up the pieces. He wrote some of their best songs, and he's undeniably one of the key ingredients to the gnr sound, but Richard plays great, shows up on time and does his job without giving any hassle... Again easy decision... With or without classic gnr writing credit credentials. I can see why Adler is upset, but when you actually look at it, it's obvious why the whole thing didn't work this time around (betond just the financial reasons). It also doesn't help his case in the future with the judge (Axl) for him to be spouting off... If he wants to be part of the gnr circle then he like everyone else, has to keep his bad thoughts to himself or he gets the corn. Not saying that's right, but it's just the reality of how gnr and a lot of high profile bands are run. And yep, it would be cool to see all 5, but I stand by my thoughts from years ago that some things shouldn't happen. The classic 5 memory should be left intact, I don't think people would be happy in the cold light of day if they actually got to see it, or hear them record music... AFD is a classic album and that time period is mythical, leave it alone. Edited April 13, 2018 by Tom2112 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXL_N_DIZZY Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Well... glad I got to see Steven when I did (Dodger Stadium Night 2). 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tom2112 said: AFD is a classic album and that time period is mythical, leave it alone. Exactly. I guess some of these people want to return to their teenage years. But Appetite was 30 yrs ago, the guys aren’t in their 20s any more, it’s 2018, and it just wouldn’t sound or look the same, even if Axl rasped most of it. Not to mention that once this happened (as a one-off thing), people would want to see it again, rendering it a much more difficult situation for Frank, Richard etc. – they would get to the same position again like in 2001/02, where they were more like "tolerated" hired guns other than anything else. As Steven said, I do believe once the 5 of them got into one studio again, the magic could happen indeed, but they won’t create another Appetite anyway, and playing just this one record live would seriously be just that "nostalgia act" like Pitman said. Move on. The past won’t repeat itself. Be glad for the holy Axl-Slash-Duff trinity... and for god’s sake, stop whining. Edited April 13, 2018 by jamillos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get In the Ring Motherfker Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) Generally speaking, life’s not fair. That applies to GnR and everything else. So as much as I love Steven and Izzy , I can understand how NITL came to be the way it is. P.S. : If Izzy dropped a classic rock n roll album out of the sky I’d be pretty satisfied Edited April 13, 2018 by Get In the Ring Motherfker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, jamillos said: Exactly. I guess some of these people want to return to their teenage years. But Appetite was 30 yrs ago, the guys aren’t in their 20s any more, it’s 2018, and it just wouldn’t sound or look the same, even if Axl rasped most of it. Not to mention that once this happened (as a one-off thing), people would want to see it again, rendering it a much more difficult situation for Frank, Richard etc. – they would get to the same position again like in 2001/02, where they were more like "tolerated" hired guns other than anything else. As Steven said, I do believe once the 5 of them got into one studio again, the magic could happen indeed, but they won’t create another Appetite anyway, and playing just this one record live would seriously be just that "nostalgia act" like Pitman said. Move on. The past won’t repeat itself. Be glad for the holy Axl-Slash-Duff trinity... and for god’s sake, stop whining. The issue is not another AFD. Axl, Slash, and Duff are not making any new album. In fact Slash will join Conspirators again. And Axl might join AC/DC. So Axl and Slash are willing to work with other people who have nothing to do with GN'R. Axl/DC will be some kind of nostalgia as well. But they reject the idea of working with Izzy and Adler? Maybe Axl and Slash have good reasons to do things the way they do it. I would like to know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post action Posted April 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2018 Slash has called NUGUNS hacks before, refering to DJ as "the one with the top hat" but when Steven does it, he needs to shut up. aren't people shutting up enough already as it is? god dammit, it's not like GNR are working on a secret alien spacecraft is it? the secrecy surrounding this band is bordering on the insane. Steven, dude, say what you want. you deserve to be behind that kit, and so does Izzy. Well said Steven. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) And don't forget quite a few people very much associated with Slash and Duff have lambasted Rose/Nugnr, including this by Weiland, Quote "Get in the ring. Go to the gym, motherfucker, or if you prefer, get a new wig, motherfucker. I think I'll resist the urge to 'stoop' to your level. Oh shit, here it comes, you fat, botox-faced, wig-wearin' fuck! O.K., I feel better now. "Don’t think for a second we don't know where those words came from. Your unoriginal, uncreative little mind — the same mind that had to rely on its bandmates to write melodies and lyrics. Who's the fraud now, bitch? "Damn, I couldn't imagine people writing for me. How many albums have you put out, man, and how long did it take the current configuration of this so-called 'band' to make this album? How long? And without the only guys that validated the name. "How dare you! Shame on you! How dare you call our bass player 'spineless?' We toured our album over a year and a half. How many shows have you played over the last ten years? Oh, that's right — you bailed out on your long-awaited comeback tour, leaving your remaining fans feeling, shall we say, a trifle miffed?! I won't even list what I've accomplished because I don't need to. What we're talking about here is a frightened little man who once thought he was king, but unfortunately this king without his court is nothing but a memory of the asshole he once was." This by Ozzy, Quote The fire started long ago The flames burned out, still embers glow So charred and black There's nothing left to burn, to burn We had the same dream Lived life to extreme A loaded gun jammed by a rose The thorns are knots around your head Your ego cursed you till you bled You cannot crucify the dead To me you're dead, yeah The future is unset in stone Decisions past leave you alone Betrayed us all with your own selfish greed, your greed, yeah New soldiers now say That your beggars collect Re-crucified and paid by you The thorns are knots around your head Your ego cursed you till you bled You cannot crucify the dead To me you're dead, yeah We were like brothers with the world in our hands You always have too much to say Someday you look back and you wonder why You let it all slip away, yeah Crucify the dead Crucify the dead The thorns are knots around your head Your ego cursed you till you bled You cannot crucify the dead To me you're dead, yeah And this by Slash's brother, Edited April 13, 2018 by DieselDaisy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 on the height of the madness, we got this never again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURT19 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 This is a great interview/article. He's promoting himself and his upcoming shows. Nothing wrong with any of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, action said: on the height of the madness, we got this never again where was axl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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