default_ Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) An idea and a song are completely different beasts. I recorded some riff ideas myself yesterday before going to bed. Axl probably have no clue of these little ideas. Edited August 20, 2018 by default_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, -W.A.R- said: Of course he does as making music is what musicians generally do. Hell i'll give Axl the benefit of doubt here and blame the label as the reason for no new music since CD. No excuses from here on though. It was on the label not to support CD era very well, now I guess the problem is coming up with something to say as the real GNR. Also they haven’t ever really done an album without Izzy’s creative input. So right there how do you make up for that. Maybe he will be there in someway. Edited August 20, 2018 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Hopefully this explains why the new SMKC material sounds so lacking, even by their own fairly mediocre standards. Maybe Slash is saving all the good shit for Axl. Either that or he's seriously lost his mojo. Edited August 20, 2018 by Towelie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 GNR albums seem to always have a lot of writers, so it’s not all up to Slash but Slash Duff kind of have that hard punk rock sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Nygma Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It would be awesome if the current band could co exist & write a new album together, how ever way they choose to do it. I think Fortus is a underrated player to many GnR fans, I think him and Slash could make a great team in a recording sense. They all bring there own ideas in and see how it goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It’s just Axl has to find a whole album of lyrics and a strong vision for it. Duff can write lyrics maybe, Izzy might have something. Couple of covers. It’s just all the wars are over. Making it, fame, drugs, romances. Now what? Songs about dying? More songs about the media? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) So (taking it as given that the OP gives an accurate transcription of what Slash told the Swedish magazine) Slash has written a bunch of riffs for SMKC and one (1) riff for GnR - the title of the thread doesn't correspond to the content, btw. And from this we conclude that he's all ready to make a GnR album and Axl doesn't let it happen? Edited August 20, 2018 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, Blackstar said: So (taking it as given that the OP gives an accurate transcription of what Slash told the Swedish magazine) Slash has written a bunch of riffs for SMKC and one (1) riff for GnR - the title of the thread doesn't correspond to the quote, btw. And from this we conclude that he's all ready to make a GnR album and Axl doesn't let it happen? Its not only one riff for GNR and the rest for The Conspirators. He says he has about 80 song ideas or riffs collected on his phone, some of this is meant for the Conspirators and some of them are meant for GNR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, betterman said: Its not only one riff for GNR and the rest for The Conspirators. He says he has about 80 song ideas or riffs collected on his phone, some of this is meant for the Conspirators and some of them are meant for GNR. I must have misunderstood this, then? 7 hours ago, betterman said: He has over 80 ideas, riffs etc wich is not used and is sorted in Conspirators and one for new Guns n Roses music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 He’s suggesting that music and new ideas are more forthcoming with the Conspirators rather than Guns N Roses. In other words, a new GNR album is moving languishingly slow if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Edward Nigma said: Are the song ideas better than his solo material and conspirators material? Because they have to be a step above to qualify for Guns material. Nothing wrong with Slash's riffs and solos for the Conspirators. The quality suffers from song structure, arrangements and most of all vocals and melodies 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageKage Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 That interview was taken in Berlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, Blackstar said: I must have misunderstood this, then? Ahh...I understand! I think i thought about one "folder" for GNR music. He doesnt specify how much of the ideas belong to wich band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Axl needs to get into a creative mindset. If he can have a late renaissance like run musically then anything can happen. But I’ve always taken Axl’s personality as an obsessive type. Whatever he’s into at a given time will get 150% if attention and he will delve into it with that obsessive mind set. So if he gets back into song writing you could get 60+ songs out of him in a matter of a year just because people like him take everything to the extreame. Now one thing I don’t get about Axl or maybe I misunderstood but during that China Exchange interview he says he’s glad he didn’t record/write some stuff then versus now because now he feels he can come at whatever it is more vigorously I guess...it just sounded like he’s afraid to write anything. If his mindset is that whatever I write I might not feel the same way about it in a year or two then he’s basically never going to write or record anything new. It would be great if we could lock Axl, Duff Izzy and Slash in a room together for a week and say “come out with a 14 song album and we’ll give you back your $150 million” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dean said: Big Jim Jefferies!!!! #98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Like i've been saying : It's easier that a mute says to a deaf that he saw a crippled man running a marathon than a GN'R NuAlbum. But hey, three years ago, Axl n' slash on the same stage was the definition of impossible. So, who knows. Slash with new ideas, Axl giving a shit about'em. 1995 is back. I guess somethings never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jamillos Posted August 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2018 Wow. One sentence. Not even anything new. And yet we've already jumped to conclusions, namely that Slash wants to record stuff and Axl doesn't. What a load of crap. We know shit, and they haven't even finished the tour yet - but some people apparently have some inside info or something... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageKage Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, NeonKinight said: Like i've been saying : It's easier that a mute says to a deaf that he saw a crippled man running a marathon than a GN'R NuAlbum. But hey, three years ago, Axl n' slash on the same stage was the definition of impossible. So, who knows. Slash with new ideas, Axl giving a shit about'em. 1995 is back. I guess somethings never change. Stay off the drugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Based on the events of 94-95 (Duff siding with Axl about Slshs demos) and what is widely speculated about Duffs role in greasing the wheels to get NITL rolling Id say that Duffs attitude about Slashs riffs will have a role to play in getting them mobilized to write and record from any Slash riffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm not sure why everyone is making a big deal out of this. Slash basically said that he has "ideas" aka "some riffs" that could potentially be used for GN'R material. Basically the same thing that Axl has said in the past. It doesn't mean they're any closer to a new album being released. If they decide to go into the studio and put all their ideas together some day then we might get a new album. Other than that, we shouldn't read too much into it, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think that one of the problems ahead is the vocals of Axl. He will not match the vocals recorded 10+ years ago and it will not be a cohesive record if you can hear the change of voice (quality) from one song to another. He can of course rerecord all the old vocal-tracks but I highly doubt he is willing to do that. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, RageKage said: Stay off the drugs I'm good enought without'em, tks mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, t-p-d-a said: this is nothin new... Slash has always new stuff since 1993 but the problem is Axl. That was my first thought too Edited August 20, 2018 by gavgnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, betterman said: I think that one of the problems ahead is the vocals of Axl. He will not match the vocals recorded 10+ years ago and it will not be a cohesive record if you can hear the change of voice (quality) from one song to another. He can of course rerecord all the old vocal-tracks but I highly doubt he is willing to do that. :/ He better fucking should. Even the thought of having 10+ year old vocals on a new GNR album is a huge turn off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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