Ratam Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 58 minutes ago, Uncle Bob said: Yes, totally! I hope that this situation would make Slash (And the GN'R camp) think about how much interested is people in listening to new GN'R music. I think that Axl and TB should to lean as Slash is very wise on promote his music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 9 hours ago, RussTCB said: How are you gonna call them $la$h and Dough, then say they're not on the same level as Fortus and everyone else? If any post in this thread hasn't made sense, it's that one lol $lash, Dough, Ax$l, the big three! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted August 23, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, ludurigan said: $lash, Dough, Ax$l, the big three! You tried SO hard to work a dollar sign into Axl's name 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuzeville Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, RussTCB said: You tried SO hard to work a dollar sign into Axl's name Ax£ might work better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionista Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I think that while Slash and Duff are of a higher status in a way than the rest (especially in terms of marketing and financial importance), Axl at the same time views this and nugnr as the same band; that is, this is not a "reunion" to him so much as it is Slash and Duff joining HIS Guns N' Roses. I also would not be surprised if Slash and Axl (amicably) part ways again before 2021, and Axl simply replaced him with another guy, banking on the newfound public good will. The important thing to remember is that GN'R isn't a band in any sense of the word and hasn't been since 94, and it isn't Axl's solo project as it was in the NuGnR years; it is a brand and corporation, moreso than even other "legacy" acts like the Stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Chuzeville said: Ax£ might work better. Sure, but Slash is the one that's British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Fashionista said: I think that while Slash and Duff are of a higher status in a way than the rest (especially in terms of marketing and financial importance), Axl at the same time views this and nugnr as the same band; that is, this is not a "reunion" to him so much as it is Slash and Duff joining HIS Guns N' Roses. I also would not be surprised if Slash and Axl (amicably) part ways again before 2021, and Axl simply replaced him with another guy, banking on the newfound public good will. The important thing to remember is that GN'R isn't a band in any sense of the word and hasn't been since 94, and it isn't Axl's solo project as it was in the NuGnR years; it is a brand and corporation, moreso than even other "legacy" acts like the Stones. Axl would not replace Slash again in GNR. If that were to happen, it's back to bowling alleys. Additionally, Slash did say he's IN GNR and not a hired hand. As I stated earlier in this thread, I can't blame GNR for not doing interviews considering how many people dissect and intepret their words. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I think the hierarchy in the band is as follows Axl/TB - Slash Duff - Dizzy Fortus Frank - Melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 hours ago, felixGNR said: Lol, most of the thing runs trough the 3 managers(fernando being axl's) ,why would employees have a say in the business?, there is no boss anymore. he just lost that battle. "Fool of a took" 😉 Axl CLEARLY won🤣 1. He owns and controls the gnr brand. 2. He got the guitar player that he always imagined to play off Slash. 3. He's now more publicly appreciated than at any point in recent history. 4. He made a LOT of money for NITL. 5. His managers work according to his whims "extra dates? I want to extend the tour, make the call" etc, etc what he says goes. 6. He pays the managers, he can fire and hire new one's (even managers that are family). Summed up, he has full control over the band in what songs are in a set, to when or if they release new music. 100% Axl is the boss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 10 hours ago, jamillos said: As long as everyone splits their loot equally... Honestly, I don't think they'll have this kind of isues with a new record since they could use the payment system they used for the UYIs. Everybody gets his share for the songs he is credited for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, RussTCB said: You tried SO hard to work a dollar sign into Axl's name yeah it was a very hard job Scash, Dough and A$l Edited August 23, 2018 by ludurigan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Draguns said: As I stated earlier in this thread, I can't blame GNR for not doing interviews considering how many people dissect and intepret their words. By that rationale, no one should discuss anything ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 It is rather the point of interviews, so the public can dissect and interpret them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newusedillusion Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: Honestly, I don't think they'll have this kind of isues with a new record since they could use the payment system they used for the UYIs. Everybody gets his share for the songs he is credited for. The credits in UYI are rather arbitrary, according to Slash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, RussTCB said: You tried SO hard to work a dollar sign into Axl's name Axl Ro$e would have worked 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 5 hours ago, newusedillusion said: The credits in UYI are rather arbitrary, according to Slash. Yes, but the system itself works. You just have to give credit where credit's due. The songwriting process for the Illusions was a mess. It seems like a lot of the issues from back in the day do not exist any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newusedillusion Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: Yes, but the system itself works. You just have to give credit where credit's due. The songwriting process for the Illusions was a mess. It seems like a lot of the issues from back in the day do not exist any more. If it worked best, I don't think he'd have taken the time to point out that it was random. My impression is he, Duff and Izzy were too estranged, high and sedated to complacency to really fight for anything in those days, which fed into the problems. Rather than address anything, they hid in drugs and booze. THAT problem doesn't exist anymore. The system that worked best (for people not named Steve) was AFD's 25/20/20/20/15 split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught_in_a_Coma Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Tom2112 said: "Fool of a took" 😉 Axl CLEARLY won🤣 1. He owns and controls the gnr brand. 2. He got the guitar player that he always imagined to play off Slash. 3. He's now more publicly appreciated than at any point in recent history. 4. He made a LOT of money for NITL. 5. His managers work according to his whims "extra dates? I want to extend the tour, make the call" etc, etc what he says goes. 6. He pays the managers, he can fire and hire new one's (even managers that are family). Summed up, he has full control over the band in what songs are in a set, to when or if they release new music. 100% Axl is the boss... Slash also has it super good too though. He gets to be in GN'R and do his own things which seems like that was all he wanted after the UYI tour (well that and not for Axl to own the band) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, newusedillusion said: If it worked best, I don't think he'd have taken the time to point out that it was random. My impression is he, Duff and Izzy were too estranged, high and sedated to complacency to really fight for anything in those days, which fed into the problems. Rather than address anything, they hid in drugs and booze. THAT problem doesn't exist anymore. The system that worked best (for people not named Steve) was AFD's 25/20/20/20/15 split. The reason it was mentioned was about the interpersonal relations between the band at the time and not about the system itself. But it's ok if you think otherwise. I don't want to spend my energy on something that most probably won't ever happen. Especially when it's not my buisness. These guys are adults and should be able to settle their differences on their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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