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I’ve been thinking about getting a Use Your Illusion tattoo since I was 14 years old and today, after 5 years, I finally did it! I think it turned out great and couldn’t be happier with it!

Anyone else losing interest in this band due to Fernando's sheer incompetence? It's one thing to be a touring nostalgia band, that's fine, but the attitude in his responses to fans has actually made m

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42 minutes ago, Ratam said:

I knew who is Robert Fripp, a very renowned guitarist, but i never heard about her.

She was big in the 80s with soft rock/pop tunes (not very good IMO) then became a decent enough TV presenter.

Big on the 80s nostalgia tours apparently. Clearly she has ‘had work done’ and is happy to flaunt them! 🤷🏼‍♂️

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29 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

She was big in the 80s with soft rock/pop tunes (not very good IMO) then became a decent enough TV presenter.

Big on the 80s nostalgia tours apparently. Clearly she has ‘had work done’ and is happy to flaunt them! 🤷🏼‍♂️

Yes, i realize she show all time her tits on close-up ..

:lol::lol:

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2 hours ago, lame ass security said:

I do agree but they, meaning Slash and Izzy compared to Steven, were at different points in their addictions. Slash and Izzy were starting to pull out of it as where Steven was spiraling. They were at such a crucial point as a band that they felt they couldn't continue with Steven. It's a question of bad timing for Steven to be at his worst.

 

i'd say they were on 3 different levels

Izzy became sober

Slash was always workable, he was a user but never allowed usage to get in his way to the point he couldn't play.

Adler was a wreck and Duff  not too far but also workable

 

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2 hours ago, Frankfurt93 said:

 

i'd say they were on 3 different levels

Izzy became sober

Slash was always workable, he was a user but never allowed usage to get in his way to the point he couldn't play.

Adler was a wreck and Duff  not too far but also workable

 

True, I was referring to their heroin addictions. Slash stopped using but continued to drink heavily. And I assume he was still doing coke, maybe someone who read his book could answer that.

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59 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

True, I was referring to their heroin addictions. Slash stopped using but continued to drink heavily. And I assume he was still doing coke, maybe someone who read his book could answer that.

If I recall correctly, he was still doing coke. I remember seeing in his book that he and Duff christened the UYI tour jet by smoking crack in it (I think.)

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13 hours ago, Frankfurt93 said:

 

i'd say they were on 3 different levels

Izzy became sober

Slash was always workable, he was a user but never allowed usage to get in his way to the point he couldn't play.

Adler was a wreck and Duff  not too far but also workable

 

Well Izzy got a big wake up call because of the incident on the airplane which did work and he got his shit together unlike Steven, slash, and duff who didn’t. Slash seems to have able to keep his addictions under some form of control when on tour which is why in 1989 he went off the deep end because he had money for the first time and a big house(the incident involving a shotgun and sitting in his closet show how bad he was) and nothing but time. Duff from his book starting ramping up his usage because of anxiety he had. 
 

Of all the guys between both the AFD and UYI era, the only guy bar axl who didn’t nuts was gilby. He seems to have had fun on tour but never went to the levels the others went to. I mean he drank but I don’t remember him being addicted to anything else. 
 

Anyway it was nice to get some replies and opinions on that period of time in the band’s history. It’s good that slash has apologised for his actions towards Steven but in a perfect world Steven should have stayed in the band. 

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6 hours ago, IrishgunnerII said:

Well Izzy got a big wake up call because of the incident on the airplane which did work and he got his shit together unlike Steven, slash, and duff who didn’t. Slash seems to have able to keep his addictions under some form of control when on tour which is why in 1989 he went off the deep end because he had money for the first time and a big house(the incident involving a shotgun and sitting in his closet show how bad he was) and nothing but time. Duff from his book starting ramping up his usage because of anxiety he had. 
 

Of all the guys between both the AFD and UYI era, the only guy bar axl who didn’t nuts was gilby. He seems to have had fun on tour but never went to the levels the others went to. I mean he drank but I don’t remember him being addicted to anything else. 
 

Anyway it was nice to get some replies and opinions on that period of time in the band’s history. It’s good that slash has apologised for his actions towards Steven but in a perfect world Steven should have stayed in the band. 

Totally read that as "gay bar Axl." 😄

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On 1/25/2021 at 6:04 PM, SAU3R said:

This video makes the WTTJ version  from  Berlin 2018 sound like the holy grail

Edit: also looks like Mr. Fripple is in charge of the thermostat 

They have done Sweet Child, too 

23 hours ago, Ratam said:

I knew who is Robert Fripp, a very renowned guitarist, but i never heard about her.

 I've never heard of her, either , although I grew up in the 80s - maybe because her hits were in the very early 80s, from what I see.

I wouldn't have imagined Robert Fripp doing this videos. They look like they're really having fun though :lol:

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23 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

They have done Sweet Child, too 

 I've never heard of her, either , although I grew up in the 80s - maybe because her hits were in the very early 80s, from what I see.

I wouldn't have imagined Robert Fripp doing this videos. They look like they're really having fun though :lol:

I now research about she in Google, she has an very prolific career. Look she is just popular in UK. Wiki is full of info about she.

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What about this; Use Your Illusion anniversary box set this autumn followed by a new EP in the vain of Live Like A Suicide towards Christmas. Two new songs (whether they're brand new or Chinese outtakes is up to you) and two covers. Come 2022 a brand new album is released. 

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49 minutes ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

What about this; Use Your Illusion anniversary box set this autumn followed by a new EP in the vain of Live Like A Suicide towards Christmas. Two new songs (whether they're brand new or Chinese outtakes is up to you) and two covers. Come 2022 a brand new album is released. 

I agree with everything except the covers. To hell with covers already, seriously. A whole fourth of a set and an entire album etc. Covers everywhere. Waiting for new music here, not covers again! 

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39 minutes ago, jamillos said:

I agree with everything except the covers. To hell with covers already, seriously. A whole fourth of a set and an entire album etc. Covers everywhere. Waiting for new music here, not covers again! 

Ok.

How about two new songs and two (good) live tracks of your choice.

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25 minutes ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Ok.

How about two new songs and two (good) live tracks of your choice.

Sure, why not. Or even better: 4 new songs - two are brand new (created together since 2015+), one is revamped from CD era and one remade unreleased from the old era (95/96 etc.). But here's the twist: they don't tell us which is which, and we have to guess! Talk about excitement...

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On 1/26/2021 at 4:17 AM, lame ass security said:

True, I was referring to their heroin addictions. Slash stopped using but continued to drink heavily. And I assume he was still doing coke, maybe someone who read his book could answer that.

Slash was using on and off all the way into Snakepit 2.  Up to the point he had that tour cancelled and had a defibrilator

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I know this is a general musings for GNR but I listened to velvet revolvers two albums back to back for the first time in a while last night and i think it’s fair to say contraband is the better of the two albums. Fall to pieces is such a good song. It may be my favourite VR song. And Slither has the amazing solo. Libertad is still a good album but it has a feeling of being an Album that they over thought it too much. Contraband has that spontaneous feeling to it. Such a shame the band ended the way it did and obviously it’s never coming back. 

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13 minutes ago, IrishgunnerII said:

I know this is a general musings for GNR but I listened to velvet revolvers two albums back to back for the time in a while last night and i think it’s fair to say contraband is the better of the two albums. Fall to pieces is such a good song. It may be my favourite VR song. And Slither has the amazing solo. Libertad is still a good album but it has a feeling of being an Album that they over thought it too much. Contraband has that spontaneous feeling to it. Such a shame the band ended the way it did and obviously it’s never coming back. 

I agree, Contraband is definitely IMO the stronger of the two albums.  Libertad to me had some cool moments here and there but it seemed less raw and less rocking, something I noticed on the last STP album Weiland did with the band before he left that band too.  During that period of time I think it was a combination of Weiland's more subdued melody writing and the band not neccesarily providing as energetic instrumental ideas

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31 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

If memory serves, I think today is Duff's birthday. 

Happy Birthday, Duff! For however much GN'R fans may or may not like some of the things he's said and done, I think all of us are thankful he's still alive. 

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15 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said:

No mention of Del this time around.

So ? And yes I know it’s his birthday today as well. I doubt there’s some ulterior motive behind him not. 

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