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7 minutes ago, Neider said:

Is there a pro-shot or soundboard of a GNR show in 2009-10? Not counting Reading, of course. I don't ask for links or anything, by the rules, I just ask if it exists or not. Thanks.

A full-length pro shot from Puerto Rico in 2010 leaked a few years ago.

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7 hours ago, Neider said:

Is there a pro-shot or soundboard of a GNR show in 2009-10? Not counting Reading, of course. I don't ask for links or anything, by the rules, I just ask if it exists or not. Thanks.

 

There's a pro-shot from San Juan 2010 and IEM audio from Tokyo 2009. There's also a very good audience recording (blu ray) from the Adelaide 2010 show...

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I'm getting soooo tired of headlines featuring the name Guns N' Roses and then containing no actual news but just a sentence about solo activity of one of the members (damn you, Slash, you prolific, never resting, always something cooking, top hat wearing, guitar awesomly playing bastard). I know, I know... better than nothing... But fuck that. On a long-term basis, I'm not enjoying this, you know. 

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Deader than death. Before Christmas, please release one more Select. Three songs, one of them the best version of HS and the last one Paradise City – the raspy Axl version. The last song of the last set of hopefully the last NITL year, makes perfect sense. Effortless, and yet the fans will have something for the holidays. A no-brainer, Merchnando. 

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On 12/1/2021 at 7:57 AM, youngswedishvinyl said:

Imagine a 'Get Back'-esque documentary on the UYI Tour based of the 'Perfect Crime' documentary footage...

Would be amazing, if the raw material holds up that is!

I think I asked this question before but I wonder how much of it was shot on film? It probably wouldn't be HD quality like Get Back. The best way to do it is to highlight certain moments on the tour and get the perspective of the members today.

End with the Argentina show and their thoughts on the tour as a whole. I'm sure there's some funny, not so serious moments in there despite the tension of that tour.

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On 12/5/2021 at 4:01 AM, mystery said:

I think I asked this question before but I wonder how much of it was shot on film? It probably wouldn't be HD quality like Get Back. The best way to do it is to highlight certain moments on the tour and get the perspective of the members today.

End with the Argentina show and their thoughts on the tour as a whole. I'm sure there's some funny, not so serious moments in there despite the tension of that tour.

I totally agree, unless there is footage of them trying to put together a follow up and the chaos that that would bring (which there sadly isn't to our knowledge).

I would assume that it would have been shot on video, but with todays technology it is possible to upgrade video to more than possible quality (though sadly not on the level of film of course), the Blu-ray version of the Freddie Mercury tribute comes to mind.

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DJ Ashba sucks.  I can't believe that guy was in the band for so long. What an absolute joke.  

 

It makes me laugh when people say they wish Slash never returned and Axl was still doing the Chinese Democracy stuff as if Buckethead and Robin were still in the band.

 

Ron was fine but man Ashba was just such garbage. Imagine thinking the band was better off with him in the band lmao

 

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27 minutes ago, martinb33 said:

Does the general disapproval of DJ Ashba have more to do with extra-musical issues than musical ones? I mean, I know he's no Buckethead (an overachiever), but I enjoyed the concerts I saw live with him on board.

Mostly extra-musical but he also had a guitar that was out of tune for the intro to SCOM and he never replicated Robin's solo on TIL perfectly. So fuck him. 

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I am copying in this from another thread somewhere else, since some of you might find it interesting:

 

That last paragraph (in a Tommy interview from November 2011) stating there are 22 unreleased songs, is interesting. In another interview, Tommy would say they had recorded "three records worth of material", so he is consistent in what he says. In the latter interview he also said some of this material wasn't entirely finished, with songs lacking vocals and being properly mixed. 

Twenty-two songs. That's a lot. Here are the number of songs we know were recorded by 2001 (from the Village leaks) but didn't end up on Chinese Democracy:

1. Inside out (no vocals)
2. Tommy demo #1 (Tommy vocals)
3. Going Down ("Tommy demo #2) (Tommy vocals)
4. Quick Song (Axl scratch vocals)
5. Atlas Shrugged (Axl vocals)
6. Zodiac 13 (no vocals)
7. Prom Violence (no vocals)
8. Perhaps (Axl vocals)
9. Absurd ("Silkworms) (Axl vocals) 
10. P.R.L. (no vocals)
11. Eye on You (Axl vocals)
12. Mustache (no vocals)
13. Tonto (no vocals)
14. Real Doll.com (no vocals)
15. Billionaire (no vocals)
16. Dub Suplex (no vocals)
17. State of Grace (Axl vocals)
18. Oklahoma (no vocals)
19. Devious Bastard (no vocals)
20. Hard Skool ("Hardschool") (Axl vocals)
21. Dummy (no vocals)
22. Me & My Elvis (no vocals)
23. Circus Maximus (no vocals)
24. D Tune (no vocals)
25. Curly Shuffle (no vocals)
26. Nothing (Axl vocals)
27. As It Began (no vocals)
28. Thyme (no vocals)
29. The Rebel (no vocals)

And these songs were recorded in 2001 and ended up on Chinese Democracy:

1. Better (as Three-dollar Pyramid) (no vocals)
2. Chinese Democracy (Axl vocals)
3. Prostitute (Axl vocals)
4. Street of Dreams ("The Blues") (Axl vocals)
5. Rhiad & The Bediuns (Axl vocals)
6. There Was A Time (Axl vocals)
7. Madagascar (Axl vocals)
8. Catcher in the Rye (Axl vocals)
9. If the World (Axl vocals)
10. Shackler's Revenge ("Shankler's Revenge") (no vocals)
11. Sorry ("I'm Sorry") (no vocals)
12. I.R.S. (Axl vocals)

So by 2001, they had 29 songs-in-development that didn't end up CD. If Tommy actually said they had 22 songs (and this isn't a misquote), it suggests to me that more work was done since 2001 that resulted in a shorter list. An A-list of songs intended to come out, if you like. From Tommy's quote, it also seems the songs on this A-list was more finished than the songs from the Village leaks, with Tommy suggesting some of them lacked vocals and mixing whereas in the Village leaks most songs missed vocals. Tommy would also go on to suggest (in the same 2011 interview) that he was inclined to think Axl had worked more on these songs, again indicating that the 22 songs unreleased in 2011 were more complete than the songs from the Village leaks.

This fits with the fact that we know they worked on additional songs later (in 2006 and 2007, at least). Scraped was at some point included, as was This I Love. They worked on Shackler's and Sorry, and Axl added vocals to these songs as well as Better.

It is reasonable to assume that some of the 28 unreleased songs from 2001, are among the 22 songs (or two additional albums), that Tommy (and others spoke about), but possibly with new names. The General, Seven, etc, could be new names for some of these old songs, or newer songs they wrote after 2001 similar to Scraped.

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10 hours ago, mystery said:

Watching this SNL compilation show and just saw the cast members play Axl and Slash performing what I think is a Christmas song set to November Rain. The guy playing Axl doesn't sing like him at all which is to be expected. It's probably on YouTube somewhere.

There's another one somewhere in SNL history when Skid Row was the musical guest. The skit is about metal songs for babies (or something like that). In any case, they have the same people play Axl & Slash. Then Bach gets involved in the skit since Skids were the musical guest. 

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2 hours ago, RussTCB said:

There's another one somewhere in SNL history when Skid Row was the musical guest. The skit is about metal songs for babies (or something like that). In any case, they have the same people play Axl & Slash. Then Bach gets involved in the skit since Skids were the musical guest. 

This one.

Adam Sandler is Axl I think. It's probably the better skit of GNR I've seen though still a bit crap by current standards. Weirdly for a high profile group/individuals they've not inspired that many parodies etc..Perhaps they're hard to mimic? Slash has featured in the most I reckon if you include stuff like South Park.

 

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The first “parody” i saw of GNR was the animated one where Axl is working at a fast food place with I think buckethead and just saying “can I take your order ?” In an Axl vocal impression. The name was a take on McDonalds and was possibly the same name as the one in coming to America. Have I just made that up in my mind or does anyone else remember this ?

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5 hours ago, IrishgunnerII said:

The first “parody” i saw of GNR was the animated one where Axl is working at a fast food place with I think buckethead and just saying “can I take your order ?” In an Axl vocal impression. The name was a take on McDonalds and was possibly the same name as the one in coming to America. Have I just made that up in my mind or does anyone else remember this ?

It was from an animated show on VH1 around 2003/2004. Whoever voices Axl in it sounds a lot like Tommy Blancha who voiced Dr. Rockszo on Metalocalypse but I don't believe it's him. You even get Dizzy and Buckethead cameos.

This is the Axl and Slash one I saw on SNL. It's actually an old one from 2013. They appear at 1:10.

 

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