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1 minute ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Well all lefties love Obama communists do not.

They say Trump supporters are in a cult but Obama could drone a hospital and people would still throw money at him.

The 2008 Obama would never be elected in today Democratic Party.

  

In fact his militarism is precisely one of the things the leftists attack about Obama. And leftists would agree with you about your criticism of liberals support for him. No doubt many lefties voted for him, but its not he same as liberals who cheered on every despicable action.

I did mention Sputnik, is that why the communist reference?

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I'm fine with Axl posting his political views. I mean, I'm quite opinionated when it comes to politics and, on occasion, I share my views online, so I'm not about to tell anyone else that they can't d

Am i the only one more interested in that giant cow? 

People didn't hate Trump before he became president? People didn't care about him before he ran for president. He was just a gaudy self-promoting Manhattan cartoon hawking cheap suits and steaks

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4 minutes ago, soon said:

In fact his militarism is precisely one of the things the leftists attack about Obama. And leftists would agree with you about your criticism of liberals support for him. No doubt many lefties voted for him, but its not he same as liberals who cheered on every despicable action.

I did mention Sputnik, is that why the communist reference?

Depends what kind of Liberalism you are talking about. Today's Republicans are what they call Classical Liberalism. Today' Liberals are basically socialist  regressive.

You say Lefties as the 1960s peace and love hippie movement.

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Just now, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Depends what kind of Liberalism you are talking about. Today's Republicans are what they call Classical Liberalism. Today;s Liberals are basically socialist  regressives.

Hmm... I do not agree with that analysis. There are a small handful of social dems like AOC. But the party doesn't like her anymore than you do, in fact.

Hey - have you ever seen The Rising on youtube? It came to mind just now because we are essentially discussing the ways that leftist thought and conservative thought are frequently aligned (in this case criticizing Obamas militarism).

"The Rising with Krystal and Sagar." Krystal is a populist leftist and Sagar is a populist conservative. Krystal is famous for laughing in Bill Mahers face on his tv show. :lol:

They cover current events in US politics and try to find common ground. I think youd like it. And if you do, then we can discuss it together! :headbang:

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4 minutes ago, soon said:

Hmm... I do not agree with that analysis. There are a small handful of social dems like AOC. But the party doesn't like her anymore than you do, in fact.

Obviously because they would never win another election why do you think they screwed over Burnout? Trump would be like 20 points ahead of Bernie if he was the nominee instead of Grandpa Joe.

I have no doubt in my mind that AOC is the future of the Democrat party thats why Joe, Nancy, Chuck and the rest are holding on to power for dear life. and joe doesn't even know he is running for President he is walking trojan horse.

 

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4 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Obviously because they would never win another election why do you think they screwed over Burnout? Trump would be like 20 points ahead of Bernie if he was the nominee instead of Grandpa Joe.

I have no doubt in my mind that AOC is the future of the Democrat party thats why Joe, Nancy, Chuck and the rest are holding on to power for dear life. and joe doesn't even know he is running for President he is walking trojan horse.

 

So, no to The Rising. Well... This is a pretty solid shooting down of my bromance proposal. Noted. :lol:

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14 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

My heart is broken

Now I'll just have to tell you how wrong you are with out the pleasant buffer of discussing a show.

Congratulations Gibson, you played yourself. :lol:

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3 hours ago, adamsapple said:

Look at Michael Jackson for example, he wasn't doing stupid twitter one liners

Twitter was just at the beginning to get lots of users when he died, so no wonder he didnt use twitter :)

 

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14 hours ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Depends what kind of Liberalism you are talking about. Today's Republicans are what they call Classical Liberalism. Today' Liberals are basically socialist  regressive.

You say Lefties as the 1960s peace and love hippie movement.

Not entirely true, bit I get the sentiment. 

The popular definition for 'Liberal' has for some reason been expanded to include people that believe in things that are at odds with liberal ideals. I think some people seem to think that if someone is on the left then they're a liberal, which is just silly.

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1 hour ago, GNR_RNR said:

Not entirely true, bit I get the sentiment. 

The popular definition for 'Liberal' has for some reason been expanded to include people that believe in things that are at odds with liberal ideals. I think some people seem to think that if someone is on the left then they're a liberal, which is just silly.

I think you are all a bit too liberal with your overuse of the word liberal :lol:

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1 hour ago, GNR_RNR said:

Not entirely true, bit I get the sentiment. 

The popular definition for 'Liberal' has for some reason been expanded to include people that believe in things that are at odds with liberal ideals. I think some people seem to think that if someone is on the left then they're a liberal, which is just silly.

OK, let's look for a definition from the three biggest policital movements of the 19th century. 

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others, but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty."

"Conservatism, political doctrine that emphasizes the value of traditional institutions and practices."

"Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live or work in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. "

Source: https://www.britannica.com/

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1 hour ago, Sosso said:

OK, let's look for a definition from the three biggest policital movements of the 19th century. 

"Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others, but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty."

"Conservatism, political doctrine that emphasizes the value of traditional institutions and practices."

"Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live or work in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. "

Source: https://www.britannica.com/

Don't know what you're trying to say with this.

Those definitions looks pretty accurate though.

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2 hours ago, GNR_RNR said:

Don't know what you're trying to say with this.

Those definitions looks pretty accurate though.

I just wanted to clear some things :) and I was bored

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On 7/22/2020 at 4:22 PM, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Depends what kind of Liberalism you are talking about. Today's Republicans are what they call Classical Liberalism. Today' Liberals are basically socialist  regressive.

You say Lefties as the 1960s peace and love hippie movement.

You have no idea what you're talking about. soon is owning you all over this thread and you're too clueless to see. Of course if you had a clue you wouldn't be a right winger. 

 

On 7/22/2020 at 4:32 PM, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Obviously because they would never win another election why do you think they screwed over Burnout? Trump would be like 20 points ahead of Bernie if he was the nominee instead of Grandpa Joe.

I have no doubt in my mind that AOC is the future of the Democrat party thats why Joe, Nancy, Chuck and the rest are holding on to power for dear life. and joe doesn't even know he is running for President he is walking trojan horse.

 

Wrong again. Bernie would have trounced Dump.

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I respect Axl's opinion. Right or wrong he's always had well thought out reasons for his various stances. Also it's obvious that he's matured a lot throughout his life and has moved past some of his more childish views. 

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10 hours ago, bigpoop said:

You have no idea what you're talking about. soon is owning you all over this thread and you're too clueless to see. Of course if you had a clue you wouldn't be a right winger. 

 

Wrong again. Bernie would have trounced Dump.

Hey mom i called Trump Dump lol.   You are a delusional Commi. Bernie would have been trounced because he is an octogenarian communist who hates America.

How old are you 12?

 

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On 7/26/2020 at 2:05 AM, TOS--LOA said:

I respect Axl's opinion. Right or wrong he's always had well thought out reasons for his various stances. Also it's obvious that he's matured a lot throughout his life and has moved past some of his more childish views. 

However, if Axl thinks it’s cool to elect a man with actual dementia into the office then he is a bit narrow minded. Biden is not mentally fit to be left alone unattended much less be in the most stressful job on Earth. 

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1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

I guess he thinks, like many other people who have to choose between the two, that even someone with dementia is better than Trump :lol:

My point is using a person who clearly has dementia and placing any type of demands on such a person is sick. Much less the demands of running for President. If there are live debates Biden is going to get smoked by Trump and that will be gross to witness. 

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I think a lot of the "Biden has dementia" people are running with the fact that Biden grew up with a stutter and sometimes fumbles over words in his life due to that.  You can disagree with his policies or statements but there is no indication of him not being all there mentally

Which is why to me it is funny how the right uses the "Biden is old and not mentally there" argumentative tactic when Trump is going and delivering the most incoherent, classless, logically-deficient press conferences and interviews in US history right now.  If anyone needs proof of said incoherent rambling look up his recent "Axios" interview in full because there are some legitimately scary things in that interview

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19 hours ago, WhazUp said:

I think a lot of the "Biden has dementia" people are running with the fact that Biden grew up with a stutter and sometimes fumbles over words in his life due to that.  You can disagree with his policies or statements but there is no indication of him not being all there mentally

Which is why to me it is funny how the right uses the "Biden is old and not mentally there" argumentative tactic when Trump is going and delivering the most incoherent, classless, logically-deficient press conferences and interviews in US history right now.  If anyone needs proof of said incoherent rambling look up his recent "Axios" interview in full because there are some legitimately scary things in that interview

I think this is  a big problem with Trump supporters in regards to disability issues. Monday night and yesterday morning, I was verbally attacked by a Trump supporter on Facebook. A high school acquaintance posted a question regarding the electability of Biden. My high school acquaintance  is a big time Trump supporter. I mentioned  that Biden can win the election. I was then asked why. I stated Trump doesn't have leadership skills. One of his friends/acquaintance  made an ambiguous remark about my profile picture and started to verbally attack me for no reason. The verbal attack went further than your typical insult of disagreeing with someone. He and I exchanged insults. As the argument grew, other people that I knew defended me. One person stated  that the person attacking me was doing so due  to my disability and it was starting to become obvious.  As it turned out, the guy attacking me pretty much admitted that he was doing so  due to my disability.  My high school acquaintance apologized to me in a private message as a result. 

Biden has a stutter, which is can be a disability issue. 

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20 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

Dementia?  Where does this come from, let me guesss....

'Biden is going to get smoked'; have you been listening to Trump for the last three months (well the whole of his tenure really) he is obviouusly a fool with no skill of articulation.  Are you aware of how the rest of the world see this man, most people are aghast that US has voted in such a  fly by nightl as their President, a most esteemed role (to many not all).  He scares me, truly, especially now in the present situation of a changing world which needs considered and intelligent leaaders (I know, Boris is not that spectacular :max:). 

As an American, I'm deeply concerned that if Trump gets reelected, the United States of America will not survive. 2020 has proven that the office of the President of the United States is just too big to handle for Trump.  

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51 minutes ago, Draguns said:

As an American, I'm deeply concerned that if Trump gets reelected, the United States of America will not survive. 2020 has proven that the office of the President of the United States is just too big to handle for Trump.  

You think that the doddering old fool Biden who definitely has dementia can handle it?

You guys have said the same thing about every Republican President since Eisenhower. You all love Bush now since he is not Trump. I am old enough to remember  George W Bush was the great evil. Its fear mongering and scare tactics. In 4 to 8 years when the next Republican comes along it will be the same and y'all will start saying that Trump guy wasn't so bad wasn't it? If  anything the US will fall apart because your side can't handle losing. Its funny people saying Trump wouldn't respect the results of the election and when he won it was the left and liberals who couldn't and still haven't accepted the results 4 years later. If anything he is gonna rant on twitter if he loses and move on with his life.

20 hours ago, WhazUp said:

I think a lot of the "Biden has dementia" people are running with the fact that Biden grew up with a stutter and sometimes fumbles over words in his life due to that.  You can disagree with his policies or statements but there is no indication of him not being all there mentally

Which is why to me it is funny how the right uses the "Biden is old and not mentally there" argumentative tactic when Trump is going and delivering the most incoherent, classless, logically-deficient press conferences and interviews in US history right now.  If anyone needs proof of said incoherent rambling look up his recent "Axios" interview in full because there are some legitimately scary things in that interview

1. No there are not.:lol: I have been hearing "Trump is a dictator" for 4 years now?  He is the worst dictator ever.

2. Look at a video of Biden from over 7 and 10 years ago  then look at a video of him now then get back to me. Why do you think his side doesn't want him to debate Trump?

If anything all this crazy shit going on has red pilled people. Like I used to be a centrist but now I am right wing just because of all the meltdowns in  the news media, twitter and internet. 

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