Original Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Credit to Mitch Lafon for reminding us. Who could have imagined that it was the end of GnR as we knew em. What 23 years went by until any resemblance of GnR would return. Such a depressing waste. Crazy. —- On This Day - July 17th 1993. The mighty Guns N’ Roses bring the Use Your Illusion’s touring cycle to an end with a show at River Plate Stadium in Buenos Aires, Argentina. It’s their last show with Matt Sorum & Gilby Clarke. Duff would return (as a guest) in 2010 & Slash in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom-Ass Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 So many wasted years.. 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I thought after the illusions tour they should gave done theatre tours to promote TSI. Just a small tour with no major expectation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: I thought after the illusions tour they should gave done theatre tours to promote TSI. Just a small tour with no major expectation. I thought I read somewhere that they had planned on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: So many wasted years.. Preceded by many wasted years, different definition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GnR Chris Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 "Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years. Face up, make your stand. And realize you're living in the golden years." 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXL_N_DIZZY Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) They definitely needed to go away for a while after all the UYI-era craziness/over-exposure. 1996-97 alongside Metallica would have been a great time to re-emerge though IMHO. Too bad the 95-96 rehearsals/jams, etc. (especially with Zakk) didn’t go better... Edited July 18, 2019 by AXL_N_DIZZY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AXL_N_DIZZY said: They definitely needed to go away for a while after all the UYI-era craziness/over-exposure. 1996-97 alongside Metallica would have been a great time to re-emerge though IMHO. Too bad the 95-96 rehearsals/jams, etc. (especially with Zakk) didn’t go better... Ill never understand axls thinking of potentially having zakk in the band. Also having tobias play SFTD over slashs guitar work. Edited July 18, 2019 by Sydney Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post donny Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 cold beers by the pool, models knocking on my bedroom door, millions in the bank, several sports cars on the drive. i wish i could waste my life away like that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXL_N_DIZZY Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: Ill never understand axls thinking of potentially having zakk in the band. Also having tobias play SFTD over slashs guitar work. I think Zakk was to push Slash- and to try to go for an even “bigger” sound as a response to grunge, Metallica, etc. Tobias meanwhile was probably a buffer/security blanket- as it was seemingly Axl v. Slash/Duff/Matt on most things by then... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, donny said: cold beers by the pool, models knocking on my bedroom door, millions in the bank, several sports cars on the drive. i wish i could waste my life away like that. Thank you, spike the mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 they been goin' in and out of style but they're guaranteed to raise a smile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 That was the last day of existence really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post t-p-d-a Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 I'm learning to colorize old pictures. I'm not a pro... I'm just a beginner 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, t-p-d-a said: I'm learning to colorize old pictures. I'm not a pro... I'm just a beginner damn that still looks cool, sort of garrish-ww1ish, but for a beginner! that looks great man, keep it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AXL_N_DIZZY Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Dean said: Axl: “See ya at the Troubadour on 4/1/16...” 2 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The music of Set Me Free but with Axl singing about being John Bonham reincarnated would have been kinda interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: Ill never understand axls thinking of potentially having zakk in the band. Also having tobias play SFTD over slashs guitar work. Zakk is the only musician I can think that could be a replacement for Slash, so in my mind, had he joined, the band could have survived had Axl been willing to actually work. Zakk is a fantastic writter, a versatile player and is extremely charismatic. Listen to his stuff outside BLS and you'll be probably blown away. Edited July 18, 2019 by default_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, default_ said: Zakk is the only musician I can think that could be a replacement for Slash, so in my mind, had he joined, the band could have survived had Axl been willing to actually work. Zakk is a fantastic writter, a versatile player and is extremely charismatic. Listen to his stuff outside BLS and you'll be probably blown away. With zakk who is a lead guitar player like slash said it would be like priest or thin lizzy. I like zakks playing when he first joined ozzy and love the guitar solo in "fire in the sky"but his constant pinch harmonics give me the shits, and turn me off really quick. Of all ozzys guitarists i prefer jake e lee. 3 hours ago, t-p-d-a said: I'm learning to colorize old pictures. I'm not a pro... I'm just a beginner Nice one. Wonder why axl tried to rip the photo off him?. Edited July 18, 2019 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) On 7/18/2019 at 6:26 AM, Sydney Fan said: Ill never understand axls thinking of potentially having zakk in the band. Also having tobias play SFTD over slashs guitar work. I think Axl was trying to improve what they had by attempting to replace Izzy with guitar players he believed in. Problem was you can't just get anyone to play with Slash, especially in Gn'R, no matter how talented they are or how much you like them. It doesn't work that way. Axl lost sight of what made the band great which was the musical balance between the musicians in the band and their chemistry as a unit. He didn't care that Slash didn't want another lead guitar player in Guns or that he hated Paul. The other side of it is I kinda like that about Axl. He took the approach of actually first trying something before deciding if it's a good idea or not, not caring how crazy it might have seemed. Eventually it led to the formation of the 2002 line up and the creation of Chinese which I'm guessing reflected what he wanted to do musically very well. Choosing to keep both Bucket's and Robin's work proved, at least to me, that Axl understood what a Slash replacement had to have as a guitar player plus he kept Paul's ideas so in a way he was right about that too. Paul was in fact the songwriting partner he needed for his album. Edited July 19, 2019 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadApples87 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Yes, that was the end of Guns N' Roses. Who woulda known at the time, it would be so many years later that Axl, Slash, and Duff would be back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I would say that 1994 was the last year of Guns N' Roses. The soundtrack Sympathy for the devil was the last thing they did together (as a "band") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: I thought I read somewhere that they had planned on that. Yeah, this was exactly what Slash considered to be a good move after the UYI tour, pretty sure he said that in an interview and that Axl wasn't into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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