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1 minute ago, Oldest Goat said:

I refuse to read/watch any manifestos. Another key part of the problem is the way the media gives them a platform and notoriety.

I've never read one before. I only read part of it now. Among the obvious disturbing nutter talk, that jumped out to me for some reason. I struggle to come up with a dream job for a 21 year old that could be automated.

2 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

 A time may come when a war is fought here and I'd want to defend my family against a foreign invader.  It's unlikely but possible.

Don't you have like the world's biggest army? What on earth are they for then?

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I wish someone would shoot the "thoughts and prayers" squad, every time I read that is like saying, we don't give a fuck, but good luck with whatever you're dealing with right now. Can anyone here exp

But there's other fucking functions to cars and phones.  The primary function of a gun is to kill.  Unless Luger or Glock starts releasing guns that can drive or text.   Easily one of the du

It's too simple. It is inane. No one is arguing that it isn't people that do the killing. That it is dogs that do it. Or wandering, sentient machine guns. But fact is that guns make it easier for peop

7 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

I'm glad you don't think it's his fault.  I just don't see why this guy being a Trump supporter is relevant.  There are insane people on both sides.  I have mixed feeling on the issue and don't see any solution to making everyone happy.  I have kids and worry about what can happen while they're in school.  But I also want to protect my family if my home is broken into.  A time may come when a war is fought here and I'd want to defend my family against a foreign invader.  It's unlikely but possible.

Mate. The chances of America ever being invaded aren't just unlikely it's basically zero and if that did ever happen they'd get fucked up by America's military alone but also with the help of my country and many others. If you genuinely have a fear of foreigners to the point you think it's possible you'll be invaded, you need to take a step back and really, really question that.

I think sane people who live out in rural areas and pass and maintain a thorough process should be able to have guns. Maybe even when it's not a rural area. But things need to change, that's for sure and paranoia and militarisation isn't the answer.

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The idea that we would ever have any significant change in gun control laws died after Sandy Hook. 20 six- and seven year-olds killed and America collectively shrugged it's shoulders. But we can take a few days and pretend to care about this, I guess. 

I don't know why the same people who bitch and moan about political correctness just don't come out and say, "Look, we love guns. We want them to be accessible. The second amendment is very important to us. And yes, your kids might have to die for it. That's the trade-off." Thoughts and prayers are for cowards.  Or snowflakes, if you prefer that. 

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I actually agree that very strict regulations on guns would cut down on a lot of these psycho mass shootings (the gang violence shootings are another animal completely).

But, and I have to say this, even beyond the guns, something has gone really fucking wrong with this society (not just the mass shootings, look at the drug abuse, the suicides). And I'm not just talking since 2016 people, This has gone on for decades.

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5 hours ago, AlterL said:

I wish someone would shoot the "thoughts and prayers" squad, every time I read that is like saying, we don't give a fuck, but good luck with whatever you're dealing with right now. Can anyone here explain to me why 18 people needed to die in this shooting? why your kids can't go to school without being afraid of some thug coming in and blasting the whole classroom?

Maybe is because I've already lost people to gun violence or maybe is because I still have a brain, but some things just piss me off. Arguments like "he would have found another way to take those lives" yeah, so because there are other ways of killing we should just let the killers get the easiest way possible, convenience first people, safety is for pussies and you can always make more children if you lose the ones you have now. Saying things like there's violence in other countries that have bans is also so fucking stupid, like yeah some dumb motherfucker in England might kill another with a bat or poison or something, but I can assure you no bat, katana, axe, or sword will let you kill as many people and as fast as this shooters kill with each strike they take.

Also I don't give a fuck about his reasons, racism, stupidity, loneliness, nothing will ever make this any better and of course he's a republican, and so what, you americans as a whole have allowed this to carry on for years now with no real response and until you do (and by that I mean take out the motherfuckers stoping changes in policy) nothing will change. It's so easy to be pro-gun when it's not your family the one that's bleeding on the floor, all because some lunatic decided to buy a gun from a stupid son of a bitch that didn't care to even look at the guy that he was selling it to. I will say that having a president that constantly attacks a certain demographic of your country might not be helping. But hey, so long as your guns are safe, who cares about childrens, family and friends.

You opened your statement regarding a tragic shooting by saying that someone should shoot the "thoughts and prayers" squad.  I should've stopped reading there.  I take offense to the "you americans" comment, that somehow I'm personally responsible for not ridding the country of every psychopathic cockroach.  And you're no different than the prayer squad, you just take the opposite stance by railing against the evils of Americans.  Which in the end does no good.

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2 minutes ago, BadApples87 said:

Apparently those thoughts and prayers aren't adding up to solve this problem.

I mean there should be an alternative just in case there's no one listening on the other side. 

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And this went down in gun toting Texas.  I thought everyone packed there.  Yet, it still happened.

Won't be surprised when Trump, the GOP, and the NRA starts advocating that Walmart cashiers have AK-47's with them at the register as the solution.

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8 hours ago, jdfdemocracy1979 said:

I think the United States main issue is entitled brats every where. People are not held accountable really. I still fell like every murderer, child molester, gang member, cartel associate should be executed without hesitation America has become a week country of lazy fucks everywhere. There are great amazing people. To blame Trump for everything that goes on is a copout. All of it has been going on for a long long time now it is nothing new people are just shining light on things that have been ongoing before he took office and decide to dump it on him. I'm not saying he is the brightest and the best but he is no way responsible for all the shit being thrown around. The last GREAT president the USA had for me was Reagan.

The NRA are entitle brats and they are never held accountable

Since you like Reagan so much. Keep in mind he supported gun control. Because he was a victim of gun violence

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11 hours ago, Padme said:

The NRA are entitle brats and they are never held accountable

Since you like Reagan so much. Keep in mind he supported gun control. Because he was a victim of gun violence

Yeh I was never against gun control! Reagan was against disarming law abiding citizens, he was all for law abiding citizens owning guns for self defense. Reagan also stated PEOPLE have to be held accountable for their actions. As far as the NRA I k ow really nothing about the maybe they are entitled brats maybe not. But normal inteligent citizens are not a threat. Yes screen people before they buy guns because it is the PEOPLE WHO KILL PEOPLE NOT THE GUN! Simple enough?

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Isn't Reagan part of the reason our mental health treatment is so poor? That was before my time but I remember reading something about that. 

Awful President really especially in relation to the admiration he generally receives.

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37 minutes ago, -W.A.R- said:

Isn't Reagan part of the reason our mental health treatment is so poor? That was before my time but I remember reading something about that. 

Awful President really especially in relation to the admiration he generally receives.

When he was California Governor he didn't want Goverment money to be spent on mental illness. As President, I don't know. But since he was against big government. I guess it's possible. Still after Reagan came other Presidents. Nothing or very little was done regarding gun control and mental health. There is also the issue of what it should be  Federal Law and States Law.

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14 hours ago, Swampfox said:

So do you also blame Democratic voters in Chicago for the high rate of gun violence there?  

Chicago was a lot more violent during the days of Al Capone

14 hours ago, Swampfox said:

And you of course want to somehow make it Trump's fault which is wrong.

He is part of the problem. So to some degree it is his fault

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