spunko12345 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 12 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: He is rumoured to be getting back with Fergie. He should do Fergie is fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, spunko12345 said: He should do Fergie is fit. Whereas her daughters are most definitely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SoulMonster said: Fuck. I change my opinion. It must have been government hit men breaching prison security to fake his suicide. If I like your post, will you like mine? Haha, I am out of likes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Haha, I am out of likes! You forgot to switch account man. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 At this point, I wonder how big the next event will be to take the focus off Epstein. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Because although some might have wanted him dead (apparently even people here), even powerful people, I am not sure it would be easy to do and if the risk of being caught would be worth it. On the other hand, he was suicidal (had attempted suicide before and had been placed on suicide watch) , hanged himself which is the most common way of prison suicide, in a prison system notorious for its suicide rate, and he ticked off many red flags for being likely to commit suicide (recently incarcerated, accused of pedophilia, a huge fall in power and social standing). Weighing this I conclude I find it likely it was just another prison suicide. I am not saying it is unthinkable that it was murder, just less likely. And just because it sounds like a movie script doesn't make it true. He shouldn't be able to kill himself on a suicide watch. He had one matress, clothes that look a sack of potatoes, one book and court papers and was checked on every 15 minutes. He didn't have anything that can be used to kill himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 There is definite need of an inquiry if he was on suicide watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Silent Jay said: You forgot to switch account man. You think I have more than one account here? 30 minutes ago, Nicklord said: He shouldn't be able to kill himself on a suicide watch. He had one matress, clothes that look a sack of potatoes, one book and court papers and was checked on every 15 minutes. He didn't have anything that can be used to kill himself He wasn't on suicide watch. The suicide watch had ended, he had been on suicide watch after his first failed attempt. Edited August 11, 2019 by SoulMonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Dazey said: One down ......... Edited August 11, 2019 by Silent Jay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Nicklord said: He shouldn't be able to kill himself on a suicide watch. He had one matress, clothes that look a sack of potatoes, one book and court papers and was checked on every 15 minutes. He didn't have anything that can be used to kill himself He could have just held his breath until he died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 What they do - and I recently read up on prison suicide - is to use the cell door or bunk bed as anchoring. I assume that while on suicide watch he wouldn't have access to either, and would be checked upon every 5-10 minutes, but he wasn't on suicide watch anymore. As for the timing: The first period of incarceration is the hardest. His cell mate claimed he had gotten in trouble with other inmates. Details about his alleged crimes had become public the day before he died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Because although some might have wanted him dead (apparently even people here), even powerful people, I am not sure it would be easy to do and if the risk of being caught would be worth it. On the other hand, he was suicidal (had attempted suicide before and had been placed on suicide watch) , hanged himself which is the most common way of prison suicide, in a prison system notorious for its suicide rate, and he ticked off many red flags for being likely to commit suicide (recently incarcerated, accused of pedophilia, a huge fall in power and social standing). Weighing this I conclude I find it likely it was just another prison suicide. I am not saying it is unthinkable that it was murder, just less likely. And just because it sounds like a movie script doesn't make it true. 6 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: It is remarkable how much traction the conspiracy theory has. Hate myself for saying it but I incline towards Soul's assessment. 6 hours ago, Lio said: I'm no conspiracy person but this seems much too convenient to me. At the very least he was given the opportunity to kill himself. If there was some sort of conspiracy, they may have not thunk it through all that well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 I wasn't surprised it didn't make the Sunday Morning Live topical news discussion show on the BBC, but a story about women wearing hijabs for a day to support Muslims did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Lio said: At the very least he was given the opportunity to kill himself. Every television show ever made involving prison has me conditioned to believe that every prison guard is on the take. I do think if there is foul play here it is along these lines. But then whoever did the orchestrating would have to put all their faith in the guard(s) responsible for not letting something slip. Not sure if that's a good situation to put yourself in if you're someone that wanted/needed Epstein dead. 11 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: He decided to off himself NOW when documents are seized instead of when his reputation was already fucked weeks ago Two weeks ago none of the documents relating to his case were unsealed. There is a question as to why he was moved from suicide watch only hours after the incriminating files were unsealed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Even just putting a pedo in gen pop (assuming he was given that he had a cell mate and run-ins with other inmates) is noteworthy. Pedos are frequently targeted by other inmates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: I wasn't surprised it didn't make the Sunday Morning Live topical news discussion show on the BBC, but a story about women wearing hijabs for a day to support Muslims did! Reeeeealllly not a fan of the Muslims are you fella? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I'd much rather wake up to a gaggle of hijabis then... well almost anything really But let me have a shave and a shower before the internationally orchestrated abuse of youngsters gets discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, soon said: I'd much rather wake up to a gaggle of hijabis then... well almost anything really But let me have a shave and a shower before the internationally orchestrated abuse of youngsters gets discussed. I knew you’d find a way to move the conversation from Islam to Catholicism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I'm not one to judge, but... bunch of mudering pedo scumbags. they'll all have to justify themselves, before the lord. that is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 At least the Left and the Right agree this guy has been murdered. The list of people that want him dead is longer than a CVS receipt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) I really would like to know the dirt on prince andrew. Its not like the queen wouldnt know about his escapades and his affiliation with epstein. Edited August 12, 2019 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 The Queen is good at many things but keeping a leash on her extended brood of extravagant and philandering offspring is not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic_GnR_Fan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Why is a thread about Epstein now about Muslims? Anyway, most people are finding it hard to believe that a guy who literally got off in 2008 with a slap on the wrist, is all of a sudden going to be suicidal. Why wouldn't he think he would escape justice again? And then there's the whole 'connected to intelligence' angle that no one in the media or in politics wants to touch...whether he killed himself or got murdered, this can't be ignored and needs further investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 He attempted suicide just a few weeks ago, so it's not hard to believe he may have been suicidal again/still. Unless of course you believe that the first suicide attempt didn't really happen and that those injuries were inflicted just to make it appear he was suicidal - all part of the conspiracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic_GnR_Fan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said: He attempted suicide just a few weeks ago, so it's not hard to believe he may have been suicidal again/still. Unless of course you believe that the first suicide attempt didn't really happen and that those injuries were inflicted just to make it appear he was suicidal - all part of the conspiracy. The suicide/murder is a red herring IMO, the real question is what intelligence connections did he have. I could go either way on if he was murdered or he just offed himself. But the way the incident was reported a few weeks ago was an apparent suicide attempt, the language was not definite. Edited August 12, 2019 by Basic_GnR_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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