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On 21/04/2020 at 9:50 PM, Joraz said:

I live in Oz in Tasmania but i didnt hear SOYL once but if i did damn i woulda been happy lol but i dont think they’ll ever reach mainstream success ever again but id be welcome to be wrong lol.

 

also good to see a fellow Australian here lol

 

There’s heaps of us Aussies here. Another Sydneysider here! 
 

Met up with a bunch of other Aussies in Vegas 2016 for the reunion gigs too! 

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I would have thought this went without saying, but PM'ing an admin to ask for links will also get you a 7 day suspension.... 

Out of curiosity, I searched into a body of newspapers for examples of use of "hard-school" in context other than the literal one (i.e. about school) or the obvious figurative one as in "learning in t

On 4/22/2020 at 10:45 AM, Voodoochild said:

I would love to go to Australia. It's one part of the world I don't know yet (and Africa), and I like to expect that I will someday after all this shit.

 

About Hardschool, you guys really have to put in perspective how Slash and Duff tone and feel (overall, the GNR sound) would totally change the song already. It's kinda hard to judge it by only a 20 year old demo that could be totally reworked in its structure. For what it is, the demo sounds awesome to me, I very much like the changes and Axl's performance.

Did Axl sing at all when they rehearsed hardschool? I didn't actually see the clip. I'm not sure which 'voice' he would use for that song. It is quite good, feels kinda like a UYI song almost. I'd love to hear them play it

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1 hour ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

Did Axl sing at all when they rehearsed hardschool? I didn't actually see the clip. I'm not sure which 'voice' he would use for that song. It is quite good, feels kinda like a UYI song almost. I'd love to hear them play it

Yeah, though it’s only audio. You don’t see him, it’s just audio out of the soundboard. 

Also that “GN’R tone” of Slash and Duff is all over the rehearsed version, and it sounds much much better

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3 hours ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

Did Axl sing at all when they rehearsed hardschool? I didn't actually see the clip. I'm not sure which 'voice' he would use for that song. It is quite good, feels kinda like a UYI song almost. I'd love to hear them play it

Yes, Axl sang it on soundcheck. From the few seconds we heard, it sounded a lot like the studio delivery, but he struggled a bit to sing in key. 

2 hours ago, metallex78 said:

Also that “GN’R tone” of Slash and Duff is all over the rehearsed version, and it sounds much much better

To be fair, I think Duff's bass is what made it great. Slash's guitar didnt really stand out to me in that particular part.

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Just now, Voodoochild said:

Yes, Axl sang it on soundcheck. From the few seconds we heard, it sounded a lot like the studio delivery, but he struggled a bit to sing in key. 

To be fair, I think Duff's bass is what made it great. Slash's guitar didnt really stand out to me in that particular part.

You might need to listen again, Slash adds a classic GN’R sounding melody that wasn’t there in the original. Duff’s bass intro sounds great too 

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20 minutes ago, metallex78 said:

You might need to listen again, Slash adds a classic GN’R sounding melody that wasn’t there in the original. Duff’s bass intro sounds great too 

Dont know man, it just sunded ok to me. 

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I really wonder what the guitars are doing during the verses, it's a mystery to me. Clearly there are at the very least 3 guitars playing individual lines that mesh together, I'm not even sure if any actual (power)chords are being played there. On the first beat of each verse there seems to be a bend or slide. All in all, I'm impressed by the guitar-work on this song, as in CD, there are so many layers, already in the intro you can hear so many guitars playing separate parts.

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On 4/22/2020 at 7:12 AM, DurhamGirl said:

I am from the UK and listen to a radio station called Absolute which plays GnR most days, if GnR were to bring out new music  there would be much excitement:headbang:

People said this about Chinese ... It never happend

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33 minutes ago, jackparker123 said:

I remember Chinese Democracy coming out, I was 18 and in my final year in 6th form. Literally nobody I knew gave a shit about it except me.

In an attempt to spread the word I bored everybody to death about it in a lot of my classes, and kept updating everyone about how many days remained until it was out.

Great times :axl:

I was driving down the coast with my wife and kids to Monterrey and had to stop at a Best Buy when they opened. My wife was not impressed with CD. At all. I remember her saying, "Except for Axl, this doesn't sound like Guns N' Roses. And even Axl sounds weird."

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44 minutes ago, jackparker123 said:

I remember Chinese Democracy coming out, I was 18 and in my final year in 6th form. Literally nobody I knew gave a shit about it except me.

In an attempt to spread the word I bored everybody to death about it in a lot of my classes, and kept updating everyone about how many days remained until it was out.

Great times :axl:

Was living in the east end of London ... Orderd it via Play.com spent hours reading the little booklet.

 

Personally one of my favourite albums of Guns but my mates at the time never seemed fussed with it.

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27 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said:

Was living in the east end of London ... Orderd it via Play.com spent hours reading the little booklet.

 

Personally one of my favourite albums of Guns but my mates at the time never seemed fussed with it.

I got the bus into town after a long day in 6th form and bought my copy from HMV, I still have the receipt in the CD case. I loved it when it came out and still do.

I also have loads of fond memories of Play.com. I used to spend an absolute fortune on there website on games, CDs and DVDs. I was gutted when it went out of business and became Rakuten.

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3 minutes ago, jackparker123 said:

I got the bus into town after a long day in 6th form and bought my copy from HMV, I still have the receipt in the CD case. 

Bonus. Return it, get your money back, then listen for free on Spotify! 😉

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I live in the UK. Pre-ordered to get the single, arrived a day late. Hardly a feather ruffled on release day here. 

Though rolling stone or some other music mag. did do an article on how they were wrong not to have it as their album of the year, as they gave the title to Black Ice. 

They pointed out that Metallica, AC/DC and GN'R released albums that year and CD was the only album that actually sounded different. Its a shame no other big artist is likely to release an album as experimental and diverse as late in their career as Axl did. 

Clearly a lack of promotion and Axl being in hiding didn't help at all. 

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8 hours ago, Nesret said:

I really wonder what the guitars are doing during the verses, it's a mystery to me. Clearly there are at the very least 3 guitars playing individual lines that mesh together, I'm not even sure if any actual (power)chords are being played there. On the first beat of each verse there seems to be a bend or slide. All in all, I'm impressed by the guitar-work on this song, as in CD, there are so many layers, already in the intro you can hear so many guitars playing separate parts.

There is some great stuff with octave power chords going on there. Someone here actually recorded on his own what he made out from the demo and it sounds insane. Try to use some software like Audacity to extract the vocal or the center channel so you can hear it better. I also recommend you to do the same with Perhaps, there's some awesome guitar work by Robin Finck there. 

And I bet the current lineup version (if indeed it exists) got rid of all that for a more convencional two rhythm guitars approach. 

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1 hour ago, Voodoochild said:

There is some great stuff with octave power chords going on there. Someone here actually recorded on his own what he made out from the demo and it sounds insane. Try to use some software like Audacity to extract the vocal or the center channel so you can hear it better. I also recommend you to do the same with Perhaps, there's some awesome guitar work by Robin Finck there. 

And I bet the current lineup version (if indeed it exists) got rid of all that for a more convencional two rhythm guitars approach. 

It's much appreciated, thanks a lot! :-) I think the same about the current line-up version, since that demo was very much in the overall guitar-style of CD (I'm still not entirely sure who's actually playing though). Curious to check out that fan-recording you mentioned, thanks for the hint.

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14 minutes ago, The Matinator said:

Theoretically the guitar players on this should be Paul & Robin right? I guess you never really know with the early CD sessions.

Buckethead is there as well. 

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17 hours ago, jackparker123 said:

I got the bus into town after a long day in 6th form and bought my copy from HMV, I still have the receipt in the CD case. I loved it when it came out and still do.

I also have loads of fond memories of Play.com. I used to spend an absolute fortune on there website on games, CDs and DVDs. I was gutted when it went out of business and became Rakuten.

Is that what happend to them the old Japs brought them out?

 

My Uncle recommended them to me back in the day.

 

I tend to use shopto.net now days.

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On 3/19/2020 at 7:13 AM, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Safe to say the album version of HS will not have the long intro. And before anyone asks, no, I have not heard the final album cut yet. Just stating this based on what I have been informed elsewhere. 

I think the short rehearsal clips indicate this also. Sounds like HS now has a bass intro (similar to ISE), which is cool and infinitely closer to the GN'R sound.

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