DTJ80 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, WhazUp said: I am guessing that since OMG was released in '99 and not intended for the album, since these are for working mixes of songs potentially for the new album at the time, OMG wouldn't be included I do agree that this is probably a drop in the bucket regarding how much actual material existed, and most likely has exponentially increased since then as well Never considered that actually - whether it was going to be on an album or a b-side.?The fact that Bumblefoot added guitars to a version later on suggested it may have been going to be on something. Plus Axl clearly likes it enough to add it to the sub setlist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 It's kinda peculiar to me how separate the BH tracks are to the others. Like, when you hear them, they are CLEAR Buckethead tracks. It just kinda further shows how fragmented the writing process was for all of this. It almost feels to me like there was one band centered around Axl/Finck/Tobias and then another that was Axl and Buckethead. There was certainly an issue with lack of focus or direction from these sessions, but it's pretty awesome what came out of it. Few artists can say they created this many different kinds of sounds across two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac daddy ax Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: No I watched the interview again the other day. He said Axl forced him to erase the whole thing. the 1992 or the 1998 this I love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 This is from memory but TIL is mentioned in the Robert John documentary, something like "I wrote this tune last weekend yadayadayada" lockdown when that was filmed & you can tell when it was written. I know it was written to a hip hop beat originally and I would love to hear that version. I wonder if the leak is actually closer to the original version than the album one is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mac daddy ax said: the 1992 or the 1998 this I love? The 1992 Tape was destroyed in 1998. There is no 1998 Tape as far as I know. 56 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: This is from memory but TIL is mentioned in the Robert John documentary, something like "I wrote this tune last weekend yadayadayada" lockdown when that was filmed & you can tell when it was written. I know it was written to a hip hop beat originally and I would love to hear that version. I wonder if the leak is actually closer to the original version than the album one is. Only the orchestral bridge was written to a hip hop beat. Not the whole song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, El Guapo said: Is Robin's SRV style solo that Axl mentioned anywhere to be heard on these tracks? Yes I think it's on Quicksong Edited September 28, 2019 by Rambler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burroughs Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Shacklermyrye said: I know it was written to a hip hop beat originally and I would love to hear that version. I wonder if the leak is actually closer to the original version than the album one is. the remix version is a kind of hip-hop beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Burroughs said: the remix version is a kind of hip-hop beat Yeah that's what I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 22 hours ago, ax1 said: Me too, OMG is such an under-rated song. Totally agree, one of my favorite from CD era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I wanted to just jump in here before I start babbling about the leaks and publicly apologize to RussTCB for directly asking him for them last week I haven't been around in a good while, had a few whiskeys in me when I hopped on, and I recognized his name from fifteen years ago! Did not realize he had become a mod here. I'm sorry! BTW-My wife laughed heartily at me for being a grown man who got school suspension from a GNR board...I deserved it! LOL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, oneway23 said: I wanted to just jump in here before I start babbling about the leaks and publicly apologize to RussTCB for directly asking him for them last week I haven't been around in a good while, had a few whiskeys in me when I hopped on, and I recognized his name from fifteen years ago! Did not realize he had become a mod here. I'm sorry! BTW-My wife laughed heartily at me for being a grown man who got school suspension from a GNR board...I deserved it! LOL All good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Shacklermyrye said: This is from memory but TIL is mentioned in the Robert John documentary, something like "I wrote this tune last weekend yadayadayada" lockdown when that was filmed & you can tell when it was written. It isn't mentioned. Axl just said that he had started writing songs "this weekend": Axl: [...] So I kind of wanted to wait, so that I develop some new ideas of what I want to do with photography, so that we can move forward. It’s like, I haven’t really written songs for a new album, until I started, like, this weekend, because I’ve been trying to get my head in a certain space that I was actually growing, rather than staying in the same place. [...] http://www.a-4-d.com/t3461-1994-06-19-guns-n-roses-the-photographic-history-documentary (The Photographic History was filmed in May 1993) --------- The only time Axl mentioned TIL in the 90s (saying that it was the "heaviest thing" he'd ever written) was in an interview conducted in December 1992 during the SA tour (so earlier than May 1993) and printed in various outlets in 1993: Axl: I wrote and recorded a new love song that I want on the next record called This I Love, that's the heaviest thing that I've ever done. Other than that, we're not even sure how we're gonna approach writing for this next album. --------- According to Chinese Whispers: Curiously, onstage in both Antebonné and Paris in September 2010, Axl would refer to This I Love as "the only GNR song written in France". So the best guess is that it was written in France in the summer of 1992. Edited September 28, 2019 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Based on the following quote by Dave Dominguez (and also on what Axl said in the 2000 Rolling Stone interview) Oklahoma must be one of the earliest written tracks of the whole bunch, if not the earliest: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken). [Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05] So there must have been a few earlier, probably a lot simpler/more basic, versions of it before the version that is found on the storage locker CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Blackstar said: Based on the following quote by Dave Dominguez (and also on what Axl said in the 2000 Rolling Stone interview) Oklahoma must be one of the earliest written tracks of the whole bunch, if not the earliest: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken). [Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05] So there must have been a few earlier, probably a lot simpler/more basic, versions of it before the version that is found on the storage locker CDs. If it was brought in that early it’s pretty shocking there is no version with vocals on these discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Arnuld said: If it was brought in that early it’s pretty shocking there is no version with vocals on these discs. It is indeed, more so since it seems that Axl had lyrics for it (and probably had also written the basic composition). Maybe a version with vocals existed elsewhere, but just happened not to be on these CDs? But it also seems that Axl changed his mind about the lyrics, since it later was titled Berlin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 On 27.9.2019 at 7:10 PM, SoulMonster said: Then why isn't This I Love found in demo form on the locker CDs? Maybe they started working on it afterwards, or maybe they worked on it before 2000 but stopped and it wasn't found on the locker CDs because Axl didn't want to release it, at least not as part of GN'R? We know that Robin and Caram insisted that it should be included, so presumably work then happened on it after 2000, and likely quite close to 2008 when CD was released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I'm hearing Slash all over oklahoma, devious bastard, quick song ....maybe some others too that i don't remember right now. I hear his style, feel, the wha pedal and i think i even hear a talkbox somewhere. Is there zero chance that it's him ? Could any of those song have slash matt and duff ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finck2006 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Freightrain said: I'm hearing Slash all over oklahoma, devious bastard, quick song ....maybe some others too that i don't remember right now. I hear his style, feel, the wha pedal and i think i even hear a talkbox somewhere. Is there zero chance that it's him ? Could any of those song have slash matt and duff ? Really are u asking that? Edited September 28, 2019 by Finck2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Just now, Finck2006 said: Really are u asking that? Yes... Why shouldn't ?? If you know better please educate me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finck2006 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Freightrain said: Yes... Why shouldn't ?? If you know better please educate me Well the recordings are dated from 2000. And I can recognise Buckets and Finck style all the way. In fact theres some songs that sounds more like Buckethead solo albums feat. the band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I know that some of the stuff is similar to BH albums. I'm talking especifically of the songs i mention So just the dates on the files? that's all proof for them not being from let's say ...96? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finck2006 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Freightrain said: I know that some of the stuff is similar to BH albums. I'm talking especifically of the songs i mention So just the dates on the files? that's all proof for them not being from let's say ...96? That leaks comes from a locker from march 2000 to 2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMother'sDruthers Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Is there any confirmation of aversion of Oklahoma anywhere with vocals? That, to me, by far, would be the holy grail. Ps, that’s Finck and bucket on that track ALL THE WAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 It's possible that some of the tracks were originally written pre-CD era or very early CD-era. It's surely the case with Oklahoma (see post above) and possibly Hardschool. But the versions on the CDs were recorded by the people who were in the band in 1999-2000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Not asking for a leak or a link to a leak, but I am asking if anyone has all 15 images of the CDs. Mods/admins please don't give me a warning or suspension if this isn't allowed, I know the images were posted on here, I just can't seem to find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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