WhazUp Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Burroughs said: One thing about 2002, maybe off topic or not too much, any of y aready seen any pic, video of the CD artwork that axl presents to the audience in Summer Sonic Festival? Is it the same art of the final 2008 CD? GNR On Tour says The artwork is black and white and features a bicycle, with a wall behind it that someone painted with “Guns N’ Roses!!” . Very close to the final one. I Remember of a pic that circulated in the web before the album release, probably fanmade, don't remember. This one right? I remember when the official art was revealed in 2008, thinking how close this one got to it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burroughs Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WhazUp said: This one right? I remember when the official art was revealed in 2008, thinking how close this one got to it: Right that, thought the same about the similarity. Never found the one shown in the concert. Summer Sonic was in three days and there's almost nothing of this first day of the artwork presented. Edited October 3, 2019 by Burroughs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTONIUS Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 hours ago, F*ck Fear said: Toronto 2002 was my first GN'R show! Still one of my favs. Same here awesome night💯⚡⚡⚡ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceJ Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Azifwekare said: Thinking again about the PRL title... I can't remember who said it, whether it was that $3P guy or some other "source", but I'm sure PRL was said to stand for something along the lines of 'Perception Reality Life' (I can't remember what the exact words were) which doesn't sound too far fetched. Or I could just be remembering some misinformation pulled from the ass of the Atlist troll. Regardless, a phrase coined/thought up by Axl himself or an acronym of lyrics would probably be the most obvious option. Alternatively, other options could be: In the medical field, PRL is used as an abbreviation for prolactin, the hormone that promotes breast growth and produces milk for feeding. For a song/album title, this could be used in relation to women or could even be used as a symbol of mother nature. It could even be in reference to it's relevance to sex hormones/sex steroids, although this is more of a stretch. There is also the Port Rail Line in Hong Kong, which could have links to both Atlas Shrugged in particular and the Chinese theme in general. This is less likely, however, as although the ups and downs of the Hong Kong freight transport market is relevant to the themes in Atlas the book, the book is largely unrelated to the song itself, and is a pretty random thing to associate with as the follow up to Chinese Democracy. PRL would also be an acronym for a vast amount of research laboratories (may or may not be relevant). Any of this would be more likely than a by then defunct Polish political regime. 'Berlin' as the third title of this supposed politics trilogy, as has been suggested, is also a stretch, especially as Axl said that Chinese Democracy was simply an interesting concept/oxymoron rather than a political statement. Or it could even be named after a completely meaningless title for a Pitman fart loop, and for all we know could stand for some random nonsense like Pitman Reed Lebeis, making all this speculation a waste of time. I think it was 'Perhaps Reimagined Life' or something like that. I've thought about it a lot but no one else seems to bring it up so I was starting to think it was a dream I had hah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THELINESMAN Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Just realised that sometimes when you yawn, it sounds like the beginning of Atlas Shrugged 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdfdemocracy Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Finally almost have my remaster of eye on you complete still needs a little work but no more Mac Daddy. I'm calling it EyeOnYouSe7en 😉 Edited October 3, 2019 by jdfdemocracy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 hours ago, WhazUp said: This one right? I remember when the official art was revealed in 2008, thinking how close this one got to it: Didn't someone from CD.COM make that years back, could be wrong but there was an "insider" doing artwork on there & think this is his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, jdfdemocracy said: Finally almost have my remaster of eye on you complete still needs a little work but no more Mac Daddy. I'm calling it EyeOnYouSe7en 😉 Why remove the best part of the song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave94 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 12 hours ago, SonofaGun said: Wow. Listening to my favorite song -The Blues on CD Mix 1......incredible. The guitar sounds more free! It’s a shame they re-worked it on the album, the final version is pretty bland and mediocre compared to the Blues demo, which would have been a highlight of the album had they kept it how it was, that mini guitar riff part just elevates the whole song 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: You could say that about a lot of these leaks ... Think the strongest theory is the "trilogy" concept This. But man, Atlas Shrugged, Hard School, Oklahaoma, Me & My Elvis, Quick Song, Perhaps, State Of Grace, Eye On You, Zodiac. Throw in General and maybe Silkworms. That's 11 tracks already. So you pretty much have a second album right there. If you combine that bunch and Chinese Democracy, they could've just gone with 2 albums of 12 songs each AND leave out Scraped as an added bonus. Maybe throw in Oh My God somewhere too. Could've both been released before 2002 was over. Edited October 3, 2019 by username 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azifwekare Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 10 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: You could say that about a lot of these leaks ... Think the strongest theory is the "trilogy" concept 100%. These leaks make clear that Axl was holding back the best for last, with the intention of each album being better than the last. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Azifwekare said: 100%. These leaks make clear that Axl was holding back the best for last, with the intention of each album being better than the last. It's interesting too how CD '08 ended up being an amalgamation of the entire sessions ('98-'07) but still left as only a "Part 1" so to say .. Would have been amazing for the band to have had an '00 release .. '02 release .. then an '04 release .. After that .. The NuGuns with Bucket Brain Finck etc could have continued making kickass music throughout the decade .. the CD tour for the whole trilogy could have been finished & wrapped up before 2008 ... Edited October 3, 2019 by 2020_Intensions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 PRL just dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogman Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 After a few weeks of soaking in the new leaks (with Axl), I'd say Atlas is my favorite. Especially that first verse...really makes the song for me. Maybe more complete/reworked versions of Hard School or SOG could become better, but as they stand, Atlas is my favorite. I like the way Axl sings in Perhaps, but I don't really like the melody; there's something I can't put my finger on. It's very boy band-y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trin9498 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Perhaps is the catchiest in my opinion. State of Grace is decent as is Atlas. But perhaps is best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Perhaps could get Top 40 airplay if it dropped tomorrow - out of all the Chinese Democracy songs it's the most radio friendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I'm still putting my hopes on the last RMCD containing at least one unheard full song with Axl's non-scratch vocals... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STPGNR4EVER Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 What's all of this hard drives galore talk?? Sounds like more than a CD worth of stuff to come unless someone's lying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasmusGuns Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, jamillos said: I'm still putting my hopes on the last RMCD containing at least one unheard full song with Axl's non-scratch vocals... Me too 🤞🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Intentions Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I just heard "Nothing" for the first time. Good God was that terrible lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Cruel Intentions said: I just heard "Nothing" for the first time. Good God was that terrible lol. The title should have warned you of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) As we wait for Rough Mixes 2 to finally leak, I thought it'd be fun to revise my Village Sessions "box set" of all the leaks from this year (I chose to keep the pre-album leaks and the remixes as separate entities). Disc 1: The Lost Album 1.Hardschool (RM3) 2.Atlas Shrugged (RM1) 3.Perhaps (RM1) 4.State of Grace (RM3) 5.Silkworms (RM1) 6.The General (Evader Remix) 7.Quick Song (w/Vocals) 8.Nothing 9.Going Down (2002) 10.Tommy Demo One 11.Eye On You 12.KOHD (Acoustic) Disc 2: Alternates & Instrumentals 1.Atlas Shrugged (RM160) 2.Riad N' the Bedouins (RM1) 3.Street of Dreams (RM1) 4.Three-Dollar Pyramid (Take 2) 5.Quick Song (Full Instrumental) 6.Zodiac 7.Berlin 8.Prom Violence (Take 3) 9.Curly Shuffle 10.Soul Monster Disc 3: More Instrumentals 1.Dub Suplex 2.Devious Bastard 3.D-Tune 4.The Rebel 5.Inside Out (Remix w/ fixed glitches + fadeout added) 6.Circus Maximus 7.Thyme 8.PRL 9.Billionaire 10.As It Began Disc 4: 2000 Intentions 1.Chinese Democracy (w/Freese) 2.IRS (RM3) 3.Street of Dreams (first leak from this year) 4.There Was A Time (RM1) 5.Catcher in the Rye (RM1) 6.Atlas Shrugged (Drums Up) 7.Riad N' the Bedouins (w/Freese) 8.Going Down (Tommy Only) 9.Three-Dollar Pyramid (Take 1) 10.Prostitute (Version 2) The only "new" song I haven't added yet is Dummy... Can't fucking stand that one... Edited October 4, 2019 by rocknroll41 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I actually really like "Nothing" .. Anyone else get D'yer Mak'er vibes from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: I actually really like "Nothing" .. Anyone else get D'yer Mak'er vibes from it? I really like it now too, but I'm not hearing Dyer Maker in it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Intentions Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: I actually really like "Nothing" .. Anyone else get D'yer Mak'er vibes from it? Definitely didn't, but then again I only listened to it one time and felt like that was enough lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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