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11 hours ago, DTV88 said:

700-800 songs? I call bullshit 

Why?

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Let's just make this clear. We will not allow any discussion relating to any correspondence that was intended to be private.  This is none of our business and just as we would want others to resp

Even though the content of the storage locker wasn't intended to be released by its creator, I'm glad I got to hear it. It's music. But private e-mails are another story. As much as curious I am

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8 hours ago, RussTCB said:

LOL, he's not a hoarder. He's a guy who bought a locker and lucked into a bunch of unreleased GN'R songs. 

He then made some deals with GN'R fans who seemingly turned him off to wanting to deal with fans any further. 

I don't know the guy (locker owner). I've never interacted with him and I really don't have any reason to ever do so. So I have no reason to defend him. I'm just going by what I've heard of the situation.

Exactly. Whilst I'm VERY grateful for the music we got to finally hear last year I can't help but wonder what we might be listening to now had the situation been handled differently and with more discretion.

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6 minutes ago, Creed said:

48 songs make a triple CD or 2 double albums. But lets be honest, folks. There isnt hit material on it.

700-800 song ideas finally explain the 14,000,000$ CD production costs.

It may be 700-800 but how many are just slight modifications of drums etc ala Village Sessions?

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So this storage locker guy has the goods but doesn’t want to deal with anyone? Basically we have no chance of hearing the material?

im sure TB have the lawyers knocking his door down by now anyway.

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8 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

It may be 700-800 but how many are just slight modifications of drums etc ala Village Sessions?

Tracks with studio talk / discussion would also be fascinating I think, as it would give us an insight into Axls thought process at the time, and how it changed over the course of the sessions.

I'd kill for a boxset and accompanying documentary of the whole Chinese Democracy project / sessions.

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41 minutes ago, Creed said:

48 songs make a triple CD or 2 double albums. But lets be honest, folks. There isnt hit material on it.

Here's my honest take on it: If there is more music of similar quality as Hardschool, Quick Song and State of Grace still in the vault, then I really, really, really hope we get to hear it some time because those songs are among the best GN'R has ever recorded.

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If we put it bluntly - surely if someone had enough money the guy would sell? He has no emotional attachment to the items and just lucked out on the contents he got. Surely if someone matched his valuation it should be as easy as that? In the same way someone might want to buy a table n’ chairs off the guy?! He is not a traditional ‘hoarder’ - just someone in possession of something of value to a select element of the population.

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11 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Here's my honest take on it: If there is more music of similar quality as Hardschool, Quick Song and State of Grace still in the vault, then I really, really, really hope we get to hear it some time because those songs are among the best GN'R has ever recorded.

You think those songs are that good! Fair play to ya. I don't have them up there but definitely great tunes and I wanna hear more. 

Not having the songs on a official CD takes something special away for me. 

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Just leak it already.... 2020 is a rite off..no album incoming... Give the real fans sum cheer in these dark days, cant go out..so sum music to listen too during isolation would help... The instrumentals [mostly] were awesome and deserve to be heard with lyrics..this stuff is what chi dem lacked.. The person who has is please just release it all...

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7 minutes ago, WildStar said:

You think those songs are that good! Fair play to ya. I don't have them up there but definitely great tunes and I wanna hear more. 

Not having the songs on a official CD takes something special away for me. 

Definitely State of Grace. Granted, we don't have the final vocal version of Quick Song, but the instrumentation and Bucket's solos, as well as the vocal melody, makes it into my top 20 GN'R songs. Not so sure about Hardscool, though, but it is a great song.

To me the songs are great regardless of whether they are official or not. Music is music.

5 minutes ago, Creed said:

I doubt that there is better stuff on it ... the Marco Beltrami stuff is probably the holy grail. But for the rest...don't think. Plus, dont forget the Mickey voice on all of them. The 2010 CD is the better choice vocally...

It makes no sense to me that the songs that did leak were the best of the bunch. 

And Axl's vocals on State of Grace, Eye on You, Nothing, and the scratch vocals on Quick Song are magnificent in my opinion. I wouldn't mind more songs with such blasting vocals.

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5 minutes ago, marinergtfc said:

This is very simple.

 

leak the fucking lot.

 

badda-bing badda bong betty boo,

 

the end.

It ain't that easy.

 

Look how fast Guns cracked down on Rick and are now looking to have him locked up /fined in a BIG way 

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11 minutes ago, marinergtfc said:

This is very simple.

 

leak the fucking lot.

 

badda-bing badda bong betty boo,

 

the end.

The dude who has it has almost zero interest in GNR. Hell - he may not even like music for all we know. It APPEARS simple - someone buys the content and they can leak it as they please.

@axlrosefan4life Has he indicated how much he wants?

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3 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said:

It ain't that easy.

 

Look how fast Guns cracked down on Rick and are now looking to have him locked up /fined in a BIG way 

Do we really know that’s the case - we all know about the banning of gigs but that’s about it.

And regarding the HDD - no idea of the legalities as the item was bought legitimately. Don’t know about the ‘content’?

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3 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Do we really know that’s the case - we all know about the banning of gigs but that’s about it.

And regarding the HDD - no idea of the legalities as the item was bought legitimately. Don’t know about the ‘content’?

I would imagine regardless of a potential Sale GNR lawyers will throw the trademark laws at it 

 

 

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6 hours ago, gnfnr2k said:

Why would you call bullshit lol  You have some of the lockerroom discs and see how many verisions of the same song there all.

 

That is all it would be, something like

Oklahoma V1

Oklahoma Vocals up

Oklahoma vocals down

Oklahoma drums up

Oklahoma drums down

Oklahoma w BH

Oklahoma wout BH

Oklahoma Freese

Oklahoma brain

 

etc etc

 

It would just be like 40-50 songs with 10 different versions of each.

You really cant see that.

That is not 700-800 songs. That would be x number of songs with xx number of versions :shrugs:

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6 minutes ago, DTV88 said:

That is not 700-800 songs. That would be x number of songs with xx number of versions :shrugs:

Thing is - the person who has advised this appears to have no interest in GNR so would likely have looked at the contents and saw 700+ items without breaking it down.

That said - the figure of 48 full songs with vocals must mean some kind of interrogation of the data has taken place.

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28 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Thing is - the person who has advised this appears to have no interest in GNR so would likely have looked at the contents and saw 700+ items without breaking it down.

That said - the figure of 48 full songs with vocals must mean some kind of interrogation of the data has taken place.

48 songs is mental.

We've basically been cheated out of at least 3 studio albums by GNR over the years.

I'm thankful we at least got a peak at the stockpile last September.

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I don't get the thing about the guy (Bird, Robert, whatever his name is). If he has no interest in GNR, it's all good. But why would he sit on those hundreds of tracks for no reason then? He doesn't have to deal with all the GNR hardcore fanbase drama. It's just a matter of how much he wants and who wants to buy it. 

Also, we're talking about digital files. He can sell it to more than one person with ease. 

I'm not saying I'm pro-leaking, I honestly think we had more than enough demos last year. Of course I'm curious and would listen, the New GNR era is my favorite. But the rehearsals video would really be interesting for me. I don't believe there's Axl singing on those, but at least seeing that band's creative process would really be fun. As an amateur musician myself, that would be really exciting to watch.

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42 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

I don't get the thing about the guy (Bird, Robert, whatever his name is). If he has no interest in GNR, it's all good. But why would he sit on those hundreds of tracks for no reason then? He doesn't have to deal with all the GNR hardcore fanbase drama. It's just a matter of how much he wants and who wants to buy it. 

Also, we're talking about digital files. He can sell it to more than one person with ease. 

I'm not saying I'm pro-leaking, I honestly think we had more than enough demos last year. Of course I'm curious and would listen, the New GNR era is my favorite. But the rehearsals video would really be interesting for me. I don't believe there's Axl singing on those, but at least seeing that band's creative process would really be fun. As an amateur musician myself, that would be really exciting to watch.

That’s exactly what I was saying - surely it’s a case of ‘name your price’ like we would do if he was flogging anything else from a locker sale?

It seems he has zero emotional attachment to it so note sure why he doesn’t just sell it. In which case TB/Gergen SHOULD be all over it.....

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