CD Leaks Discussion Thread **NO LINKS, NO ASKING / HINTING FOR LEAKS**

[jimisbatman 76]

6 hours ago, Azifwekare said:

 

It wasn't a drum machine loop? And it definitely isn't a 'ska section' either (as I've seen suprisingly many people refer to it) - it's a disco beat/guitar riff, just like on the released version.

It is. The leaked OMG is a VERY rough mix that is nowhere near finished. Comments to the contrary are just about personal preference with regards to it being more stripped-down (nothing wrong with that btw). Axl himself said it was a re-record that wasn't taken too seriously.

 

Thanks

[Gunner927 518]

2 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

I despise those 3 Ashba songs equally.

I despise them and the person playing them equally.

[Sanomatovic 343]

8 minutes ago, Gunner927 said:

I despise them and the person playing them equally.

Lovely water though

[Gibson_Guy87 2,609]

The title track for CD was ready in '99. They really shouldn't have added all that extra stuff 

Edited September 4, 2019 by Gibson_Guy87

[Gunner927 518]

1 hour ago, Sanomatovic said:

Lovely water though

Bottled straight from Monster's run-off swamp!

[sofine11 1,240]

43 minutes ago, Gibson_Guy87 said:

The title track for CD was ready in '99. They really shouldn't have added all that extra stuff 

I'm still on Cloud 9 listening to the 10 tracks that leaked. Mostly because they were spared all the needless bombast that 7 additional years of tinkering did to them. I love the simple intro to Chinese. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by sofine11

[Gibson_Guy87 2,609]

2 minutes ago, sofine11 said:

I'm still on Cloud 9 listening to the 10 tracks that leaked. Mostly because they were spared all the needless bombast that 7 additional years of tinkering did to them. I love the simple intro to Chinese. 

Same here. Not a big fan of Pitman but that little synth part before the verse was cool. The bass-only verse fit really well with that late 90s/early 2000s rock sound as well.

[Basic_GnR_Fan 562]

6 minutes ago, Gibson_Guy87 said:

Same here. Not a big fan of Pitman but that little synth part before the verse was cool. The bass-only verse fit really well with that late 90s/early 2000s rock sound as well.

Pitman has some nice moments on these leaks, I have to admit! He's got interesting stuff going on in CD and I love what he's doing in the last minute or so of The Blues (it reminds me of the synth loops in those early-mid 90's west coast rap songs)

[sofine11 1,240]

3 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Pitman has some nice moments on these leaks, I have to admit! He's got interesting stuff going on in CD and I love what he's doing in the last minute or so of The Blues (it reminds me of the synth loops in those early-mid 90's west coast rap songs)

Agreed, I've been really digging what he's doing on these versions. In fact Pitman as an individual didn't get annoying for me until the 2011-14 era. He would get super annoying when he was fucked up, and it happened a lot. But then again, there's not much that didn't annoy me about that era. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by sofine11

[Russel Nash 611]

19 minutes ago, sofine11 said:

Agreed, I've been really digging what he's doing on these versions. In fact Pitman as an individual didn't get annoying for me until the 2011-14 era. He would get super annoying when he was fucked up, and it happened a lot. But then again, there's not much that didn't annoy me about that era. 

Pitman is a great guy and very talented, maybe he was too rock and roll for this current lineup. But his work on CD tracks is awesome, i hope everything leaks in full so we can apreciate the album we deserve it. Im already remaking my own CD. Jackie Chan is 1st Track followed by CD Josh version.

Edited September 4, 2019 by Russel Nash

[Gunner927 518]

36 minutes ago, Russel Nash said:

Pitman is a great guy and very talented, maybe he was too rock and roll for this current lineup. But his work on CD tracks is awesome, i hope everything leaks in full so we can apreciate the album we deserve it. Im already remaking my own CD. Jackie Chan is 1st Track followed by CD Josh version.

I never in my life thought I would see someone describe Chris Pitman as "too rock n' roll" for anything. 

[sofine11 1,240]

2 minutes ago, Gunner927 said:

I never in my life thought I would see someone describe Chris Pitman as "too rock n' roll" for anything. 

Haha, yeah I had to read that twice too. 

[Gordon Comstock 5,766]

2 hours ago, sofine11 said:

I'm still on Cloud 9 listening to the 10 tracks that leaked. Mostly because they were spared all the needless bombast that 7 additional years of tinkering did to them. I love the simple intro to Chinese. 

There were 11 tracks that leaked... CD '99, CD '00?, Prostitute '99 x 2, CITR '99, Riad '99, TWAT '99, IRS '99, Going Down '99, The Blues '99, and Jackie Chain.

But yea, CD '99, CITR, Going Down and Jackie Chan are all awesome.

[nycgunner 287]

Have any music journalists picked up this story?  Surprised given Hard School is the first new Axl song in 11 years. 

[guitarpatch 554]

Just now, nycgunner said:

Have any music journalists picked up this story?  Surprised given Hard School is the first new Axl song in 11 years. 

No one cares. Now if 20 unreleased songs leaked? Yeah that’s news worthy. Question if people actually go through the trouble of downloading. Everyone is on to streaming and that stuff won’t hit YouTube 

[Russel Nash 611]

1 hour ago, Gunner927 said:

I never in my life thought I would see someone describe Chris Pitman as "too rock n' roll" for anything. 

Common, this version of GNR wake ups at 7 in the morning to do Yoga. I bet Pitman brought booze and shit to the rehearsals and boom. Pitman was coolest cat in that lineup. He rocked a fucking towel man.. A TOWEL.

[Gnrfan2001 3,029]

@Russel Nash Margaritas are on me if we ever meet at a GNR show

[bdinan 216]

If you think ticket sales were great with the reunion of Slash and Duff, wait until they bring back Pitman. It will be the hottest ticket around. NOT IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING GOOSE TOUR. 

[Voodoochild 962]

1 hour ago, Gordon Comstock said:

There were 11 tracks that leaked... CD '99, CD '00?, Prostitute '99 x 2, CITR '99, Riad '99, TWAT '99, IRS '99, Going Down '99, The Blues '99, and Jackie Chain.

But yea, CD '99, CITR, Going Down and Jackie Chan are all awesome.

I believe there are a few corrections. Riad and Hard School have Bucket, so it's a 2000 or later version. TWAT has that weird shitty Axl guitar, which I strongly believe it was more lika placeholder for Buckethead (so, 2000 or later). The Blues - are we sure the studio version was always the slow tempo one? Or was it slower after the 2001 gigs? And CITR is slightly different from the 1999 leak we all have, so it may be from another timeframe.

1 hour ago, nycgunner said:

Have any music journalists picked up this story?  Surprised given Hard School is the first new Axl song in 11 years. 

Didnt see anything. But I do believe it's because it didnt came into their attention yet. There's already tons of websites posting about the Terminator rumor, I don't see why a leak wouldn't have the same attention from the Press. 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Voodoochild

[Gordon Comstock 5,766]

1 minute ago, Voodoochild said:

I believe there are a few corrections. Riad and Hard School have Bucket, so it's a 2000 or later version. TWAT has that weird shitty Axl guitar, which I strongly believe it was more lika placeholder for Buckethead (so, 2000 or later). The Blues - are we sure the studio version was always the slow tempo one? Or was it slower after the 2001 gigs? And CITR is slightly different from the 1999 leak we all have, so it may be from another timeframe.

 

If we go by the photos of the discs then Riad and Hardschool are from November 2000. CITR is from March 2000, though rumour has it that the "slight differences" in this version were added from the multitracks to make this a "new" or "special" version and increase its value somehow.... lol.

But to be fair, I count anything that Josh plays on as a '99 demo, as there's a very good chance that the bulk of the song is from '99 with some new Buckethead parts. Kinda like how Silkworms and OMG aren't "2006 demos" but the Bumblefoot guitar parts are from 2006.

[Russel Nash 611]

13 minutes ago, bdinan said:

If you think ticket sales were great with the reunion of Slash and Duff, wait until they bring back Pitman. It will be the hottest ticket around. NOT IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING GOOSE TOUR. 

The last time i saw that lineup(2010)i had a fucking great time. Then i saw GNR in 2016 and did nothing for me.

I don't fucking care about ticket sales, they are already rich. Bring the new music and it better be good, cos i don't know about you but this is my only lifetime, if i die and come back it will be in form of some squirrel or shit like that.

[Gordon Comstock 5,766]

Just now, Russel Nash said:

The last time i saw that lineup(2010)i had a fucking great time. Then i saw GNR in 2016 and did nothing for me.

I don't fucking care about ticket sales, they are already rich. Bring the new music and it better be good, cos i don't know about you but this is my only lifetime, if i die and come back it will be in form of some squirrel or shit like that.

I honestly think the only chance we have of getting another 2010-level tour from Axl is if it's in support of new material. That doesn't mean chainsaw rasp every night, it means consistently great shows with a varying setlist and lots of new songs that Axl is enthused about. He clearly could not give less of a fuck about singing Sweet Child O' Mine every night, but he sounded good on almost everything that he hadn't sung a thousand times before this tour even started: I Feel Good, Wichita Lineman, SOYL, Big Shot, ACDC, etc.

[Voodoochild 962]

11 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

CITR is from March 2000, though rumour has it that the "slight differences" in this version were added from the multitracks to make this a "new" or "special" version and increase its value somehow.... lol.

I know, but that's not true. It's just because people thought one particular guitar was Bumblefoot, but it's not. Most likely, it's Robin. The multitracks alone couldn't be used that much without any impact on the instrumental overall. In the demo it's clear how it even has tiny bits of Robin's lead going on seamlessly with this "new" guitar. The Rock Band multitracks don't have that. Also, even if you paste anything on the original demo, it would still have the original instrumental behind it. 

[ZoSoRose 9,138]

12 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

I honestly think the only chance we have of getting another 2010-level tour from Axl is if it's in support of new material. That doesn't mean chainsaw rasp every night, it means consistently great shows with a varying setlist and lots of new songs that Axl is enthused about. He clearly could not give less of a fuck about singing Sweet Child O' Mine every night, but he sounded good on almost everything that he hadn't sung a thousand times before this tour even started: I Feel Good, Wichita Lineman, SOYL, Big Shot, ACDC, etc.

Axl sounds good when he cares

2006/07 = Thinking the album was coming, on cocaine

2010 = Supporting the album

2016 = First reunion tour/ACDC

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by ZoSoRose

[bdinan 216]

55 minutes ago, Russel Nash said:

The last time i saw that lineup(2010)i had a fucking great time. Then i saw GNR in 2016 and did nothing for me.

I don't fucking care about ticket sales, they are already rich. Bring the new music and it better be good, cos i don't know about you but this is my only lifetime, if i die and come back it will be in form of some squirrel or shit like that.

Truth be told, I had a better time on the 2006 tour than the NITL tour. The novelty of NITL wore off quick for me. It's not organic. 

2006 was awesome; Axl was vocally on point most nights. I saw all four Hammerstein shows, and they were outstanding. I met Ron Thal a few times, and the guy is a gem of a human being. I saw him shortly thereafter at one of his solo shows in Brooklyn; I will forever be a fan of his. 

'06 was peak for me. Not being old enough to have seen the appetite/UYI tours. The band looked cool, sounded tight. Don't get me wrong - I love Bucket, but the whole everyone wearing a different Halloween costume era didn't really do it for me. They looked and sounded like a legit band in '06.

 

 

36 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

Axl sounds good when he cares

2006/07 = Thinking the album was coming, on cocaine

2010 = Supporting the album

2016 = First reunion tour/ACDC

 

He was vocally outstanding in '06. I remember him coming out at Hammerstein not knowing where that power was coming from.