09/25/19 - Charlotte, NC - Spectrum Center

[RussTCB]

4 hours ago, vloors said:

Yea his middle finger is sick

 I seriously LOL'd. This is my favorite post of the week lol

[jamillos]

Someone did say he was coughing and spitting. Bridge School strep throat incoming? 

[Gibbo]

7 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Everything that has been posted here (Palladium and this show) was gone shortly after. Posting it here makes it quicker to find them and take them down. There's still some up on YouTube but everything that was here is gone.

Yeah but that's not vloors fault, he's just trying to help mate. They will still get removed either way.

 

[sc_gunner]

I thought this show was better than the ATL 2016 as far as set list and quality.  Not so much better as far as excitement is concerned since ATL was the first time I had seen Guns in concert since '92.  I thought Axl kicked ass, and really love that I got to see DTJ live.  That song was on our heads all night/morning/next day.  Seeing Shadow and Slither live was great too.  Also this was my 4th Guns show (2nd NITL), and oddly enough this is the first time I saw Don't Cry live.  So that was awesome.

 

I assume we can't upload video from a phone?  It has to be a link?  I would really love to upload Shadow of your Love.  Not so much for a pro shot, but just so everyone can hear the rasp and energy coming from Axl on that song (recorded from Slash side upper and jittery because I rock out and don't really pay attention to where my phone is pointing if I even record at all).  I also LOVED Slash blues jam this show.  Was different than the Johnny B Good he usually does, and really had a lot of soul in it.  It only strengthened my desire to hear Slash lay down a pure blues album.  I think it would become instantly one of the best blues album made.

Edited September 27, 2019 by sc_gunner

[sc_gunner]

On 9/25/2019 at 8:11 PM, Gibsonfender2323 said:

they said is sold out

It was packed.  Not sure what picture the person saw, but was probably well before Guns came on.  We were in the bathroom, beer, and shirt line nearly the entire set for Shooter so can't really say how many people came in early.  By the time Guns came on though it was packed rafter to rafter.  A ton of energy too.  From the crowd and band.  On some songs you actually hear the crowd singing along over the band!  It was a GREAT show!

[RussTCB]

23 minutes ago, sc_gunner said:

It was packed.  Not sure what picture the person saw, but was probably well before Guns came on.  

This reminds me of this funny situation that happened to me on the 2011 tour in Youngstown Ohio. 

Someone on the forum kept claiming that their buddy was at the show and the attendance was so low, they cut the venue in half (not sure if you've seen that type of thing before, but I actually have). Anyway, I was sitting in the audience and the venue was NOT cut in half so I posted that. 

I got accused of making it up....... I was AT THE SHOW getting accused of making shit up by a guy who was NOT AT THE SHOW lol. 

I had to take pics of the stage from several angles and post them on the forum just to prove to everyone that the other guy was full of shit lol! 

[papashaun]

14 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

'93.  I still remember video premiere on MTV.

Vividly, Garden of Eden, Dead Horse, Estranged, Garden of Eden last single of UYI's.

Nov '93 TSI was already out.  Since I don't..., was the last video they made as a band and that was back in '93.

Gilby released Pawn shop, Duff released Believe in me like Oct '93 or something.

'94 there was complete silence, early '95 5 o'clock came out.

To be fair, you and the other person commenting on the release of Estranged are both correct:

The video for Estranged dropped in December of 1993, while it was released as a "single" officially January 17th, 1994

I think this confused a lot of people, because The Spaghetti Incident had already released in late 1993, then it's like your back tracking and releasing a video from the album prior to it, instead of a video for your new album? Bands didn't do things like that, at that point in time on MTV.

[liqddynamite]

My quick recap, was pit rail slash side, 6th NITL show, I saw ATL and San diego in 2016, winston salem, san diego, and the 4-hour LA forum show in 2017.   This was as good as Axl has been all tour in my opinion.  His rasp on wednesday was consistent and sounded effortless, it honestly reminded me on the 90s.  I do think that 2017 San diego and the forum were amazing performances, he gave every minute of those shows everything he had and the rasp was good, but it was darker, thicker, and less smooth and effortless (aka, more Indiana '91 than Chicago '92).  All of these shows have been incredible, but in Charlotte he just had it and it was incredible to see.

Other notes:

-My last 2 gnr shows have been pit rail 2 with a side profile of axl 8 feet away throughout most of the show.  I don't understand the fat axl thing, if anything he's lost some weight since 2 years ago, but he's most definitely not worse.

-Slash on the other is looking much trimmer

-They tightened up the whole setlist.  The intro video was significantly shorter, the jungle intro shorter, I clocked KOHD at 12 minutes which is still ridiculous, but much better than 15-16 minutes.

-Rocket queen not quite as long and overall much better without the 6 minute bridge.  Axl's outro btw might have the best I've heard on the tour.

-Coma outro was unbelievable, as was shadow, I agree with everyone there, that was a highlight.

-Wichita lineman can't go fast enough for me, but black hole sun was gone so that was another plus.  

-Maddy in the encore was awesome, was realllly hoping that would happen.

-2 hours, 50 min was a little shorter than most of the last shows in 2018, but its only short for GNR, no other rock band plays shows this long.  

 

 

[Gibbo]

Hes still going  I think he liked it 

 

 

[Lio]

Even if I'd been hoping for some more mixing up, I am really pleased to see everyone enjoying the show and seeing that they have worked a bit on the setlist, by changing bits about songs. I think I would miss the Jungle intro though, but if it means he saves his voice and delivers during the rest of the show, that's all fine by me.

And who knows, the leg is just starting out again, new songs may still come, and it's great to see Axl's doing great despite the off time.

[MaskingApathy]

2 hours ago, Gibbo said:

Yeah but that's not vloors fault, he's just trying to help mate. They will still get removed either way.

 

Ok, sorry @vloors. I'm just really frustrated about it. What can we do about it? 

[Crowebar]

9 hours ago, jekylhyde said:

I don't want to fat shame anyone or speculate too much about someone's personal issues, but thyroid problems can cause weight gain, mood swings and issues with voice. It is really not all that uncommon medical problem.

But I don't personally care about any weight stuff. It is the voice that matters. And he sounds pretty great, considering that it is 2019. 

Yes all true about thyroid. Runs in my family. Older brother had to have his removed. Younger brother has to get his checked yearly as do I but so far so good for both of us 👍🏻😊

[AxlRoseCDII]

8 hours ago, Politania said:

That came to mind straight ahead- thyroid problems.

Medications will also mess with your weight, like, a lot. 

Thats why I’m really sick of the Axl bashing. We have no idea what’s going on behind close doors so why make fun of him for it. Even if it was burgers and beer, just let him live. It’s his life and he’s nearly 60 years old now.

[sl4yer]

14 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Medications will also mess with your weight, like, a lot. 

Thats why I’m really sick of the Axl bashing. We have no idea what’s going on behind close doors so why make fun of him for it. Even if it was burgers and beer, just let him live. It’s his life and he’s nearly 60 years old now.

I mostly agree but 

If his weight gain is from sickness or medications then I feel sorry for him. But if it’s because of burgers and beer then he is irresponsible and it’s just not ok. Because people pay money, a lot of money to see him. So if he is out of shape from his own choice, he is disrespectful to his fans. 

But as you said we have no idea what’s going on so we shouldn’t bash him

Edited September 27, 2019 by sl4yer

[swishtz]

11 minutes ago, sl4yer said:

I mostly agree but 

If his weight gain is from sickness or medications then I feel sorry for him. But if it’s because of burgers and beer then he is irresponsible and it’s just not ok. Because people pay money, a lot of money to see him. So if he is out of shape from his own choice, he is disrespectful to his fans. 

But as you said we have no idea what’s going on so we shouldn’t bash him

Yeah because that's what Adele, Elton John,  Aretha Franklin, Barry White etc all did/do , keep/kept themselves in shape just for you lot hey? He is so  'disrespectful' he goes on stage for 3hrs + a show and busts a gut in sometimes unbearable heat that YOU would stand zero chance of pulling off. Fucking comedians some of you

[ChildOfTheMoon]

I think that people have this crazy fantasy that if Axl loses weight he will be that same beautiful, crazy, screaming god he was. Let’s be real, he won’t. The guy is getting old and, for whatever reason, he did not age very well like Duff did. That’s the truth, just deal with it. He still sings good enough so we can enjoy the shows and potentially new music.

The only thing that concerns me about his weight is that sometimes he gets out of breath, because he still moves a lot onstage, and the size of his belly, because we all know how dangerous that is for the heart, especially at his age. But I’m sure he’s aware of this.

[sl4yer]

14 minutes ago, swishtz said:

Yeah because that's what Adele, Elton John,  Aretha Franklin, Barry White etc all did/do , keep/kept themselves in shape just for you lot hey? He is so  'disrespectful' he goes on stage for 3hrs + a show and busts a gut in sometimes unbearable heat that YOU would stand zero chance of pulling off. Fucking comedians some of you

So what he gives a 3 hours shows if he is butchering his own songs? 

All people you listed is a bad comparision. They have way different type of performance. People who attends their shows gets what they expected. However some people on GNR shows are shocked by how he look and sounds.

I’m not bashing Axl and I loved the show I went to year ago. But some of GNR performances are very bad because of him being out of shape.

Bashing him too much is a bad thing and we shouldn’t do that. But praising him for whatever he is doing is just stupid too.

 

 

Edited September 27, 2019 by sl4yer

[--DEA--]

So I guess that it's better if Axl retires for some of you.. But wait. Then you will bitching about that. Some of you have to accept that humans gets older. 

Everything is so very simple. If you don't like what's going on.. Then just leave! Bye Bye! 

 

[Fourteenbeers]

3 hours ago, ChildOfTheMoon said:

I think that people have this crazy fantasy that if Axl loses weight he will be that same beautiful, crazy, screaming god he was. Let’s be real, he won’t. The guy is getting old and, for whatever reason, he did not age very well like Duff did. That’s the truth, just deal with it. He still sings good enough so we can enjoy the shows and potentially new music.

The only thing that concerns me about his weight is that sometimes he gets out of breath, because he still moves a lot onstage, and the size of his belly, because we all know how dangerous that is for the heart, especially at his age. But I’m sure he’s aware of this.

Good points, but I don't think his gut is big enough to raise serious health concerns.If it affects his singing, then it's obviously not a good thing.

For me this is not a big deal( no pun intended) and I'm sure there are lot of people on this forum who are tired of reading a single word about this. So here's my suggestion: someone start Axl's gut thread for those who are interested in the subject. OK?

Edited September 27, 2019 by Fourteenbeers

[sl4yer]

8 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said:

Good points, but I don't think his gut is big enough to raise serious health concerns.If it affects his singing, then it's obviously not a good thing.

For me this is not a big deal( no pun intended) and I'm sure there are lot of people on this forum who are tired of reading a single word about this. So here's my suggestion: someone start Axl's gut - thread for those who are interested in the subject. OK?

Or just go to GNFNR forum. Most of discussions there are just „lol Axl is so fat and shit”

[Fourteenbeers]

8 minutes ago, sl4yer said:

Or just go to GNFNR forum. Most of discussions there are just „lol Axl is so fat and shit”

Yeah, I've visited that forum couple of times. Peculiar place - a half dead " fan"forum where everybody hates the band.

[axljungle]

Sounds great and the screen graphics are better than the 2016/17 tour.

 

 

[tadskis]

5 hours ago, sl4yer said:

So what he gives a 3 hours shows if he is butchering his own songs? 

All people you listed is a bad comparision. They have way different type of performance. People who attends their shows gets what they expected. However some people on GNR shows are shocked by how he look and sounds.

I’m not bashing Axl and I loved the show I went to year ago. But some of GNR performances are very bad because of him being out of shape.

Bashing him too much is a bad thing and we shouldn’t do that. But praising him for whatever he is doing is just stupid too.

 

 

Doubt that his increased weight really affects voice so negatively, because in 2010 he was starting to get really fat but his singing sounded absolutely amazing and raspy while in 2002 he was still relatively thin but had that shot voice without any rasp.

Edited September 27, 2019 by tadskis
clarity

[Politania]

3 minutes ago, tadskis said:

Doubt that his increased weight really affects voice that negatively, because in 2010 he was starting to get really fat but his singing sounded absolutely amazing and raspy while in 2002 he was still relatively thin but had that shot voice without any rasp.

I forgot about that. good point

[Gibsonfender2323]

35 minutes ago, axljungle said:

Sounds great and the screen graphics are better than the 2016/17 tour.

 

 

Downloaded and backed up. This is the best Shadow ever

Edited September 27, 2019 by Gibsonfender2323