slash23579 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 With all the protests against the Chinese government in Hong Kong and demands for democracy it’s really making me look at the song Chinese Democracy in a new light. This was a song that I never really paid much attention to the lyrics really, but I kinda feel like this song more relevant today than it’s ever been. Anyone else looking at this song in a new light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Interesting. But the problem in Hong Kong does not really gets into China mainland, right? I was there, it's interesting. Landed in Hong Kong and had to go through the customs again to get to China (I was heading to Shenzhen). It was always like a different place even after the independence from UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Extradition Bill sending prisoners to the mainland? It is a definite ''tail that wag's the dog'' pertaining to Hong Kong government and PRC. This will become more explicit of course if the Chinese Army move in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsapple Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I think the song was (partly) inspired by the movie "Kundun". To me the song is about independence and perhaps reactional spirals in general. Axl sure writes some interesting lyrics, it's a shame he isn't recognized more for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax1 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) He mentions the Falun Gong which is a huge no no in the mainland. Dont ever bring up the Falun Gong, thats why more than likely Axl was banned from going back to China. Interestingly, I bought Chinese Democracy in Beijing in 2008 at a open bootleg shop not far from Tienanmen Square before the real album was released. I still have it with a nice flip cover. Edited October 10, 2019 by ax1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I dont know anything of substance pertaining to chinese politics and have never seen the movie he was inspired by to write the lyrics, so I have nothing to add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Hong Kong Democracy Starts Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK6 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, Mendez said: I dont know anything of substance pertaining to chinese politics and have never seen the movie he was inspired by to write the lyrics, so I have nothing to add Thanks for your input.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 It’s about the people accepting their situation and the government knowingly suppressing its people, knowing it will never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagszilla Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I’d love to chat with Axl about what Chinese Democracy was about from his perspective and what, if anything he was trying to get across. I have a lot of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 "relevance" and "Chinese Democracy" sure at two things that doesnt mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sydney Fan Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Are there any songs on the album about china?. I would have thought calling an album chinese democracy would be some sort of concept album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janabis Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 That's one of the many problems with CD; there's no consistent concept throughout, just a random jumble of ideas and musicians and producers with nothing connecting one song to the next except Axl's woeful lyrics about how everyone mistreats him. Half of the songs sound like they could have been written by Donald Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Sydney Fan said: Are there any songs on the album about china?. I would have thought calling an album chinese democracy would be some sort of concept album. That's my thing. Outside whatever he's trying to say in Riad, nothing political about the album at all. Naming an album Chinese Democracy doesn't automatically make the album a political statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax1 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, RussTCB said: That's my thing. Outside whatever he's trying to say in Riad, nothing political about the album at all. Naming an album Chinese Democracy doesn't automatically make the album a political statement. Thank goodness...I dont mind a few songs but mixing it up is a good idea imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorbear Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Janabis said: That's one of the many problems with CD; there's no consistent concept throughout, just a random jumble of ideas... As opposed to UYI? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) The only story the album tells as a whole, and this is just a guess, is songs 1-7 are kinda his grievances against what has brought him down. Then starting with Scraped the rest of the album is him overcoming these things and resisting the urge to let it bring him down. but yea I would have liked an album that was suppose to be well thought out to have some kind of symmetry Edited October 11, 2019 by IncitingChaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Im eating Chinese leftovers while listening to Chinese Leftovers while watching pro democracy rallies in Hong Kong. Serendipitous, yes. Im not so sure about relevance though. Now that Hong Kong police shot a protestor I think its fair to say the the PRC has "seen the end and they cant hold on now" Edited October 11, 2019 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crowebar Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Janabis said:Half of the songs sound like they could have been written by Donald Trump. Another poster dragging Trump into Axl lyrics 😳👎🏻 Beyond pathetic imho 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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