The "New Album" Thread - Susan McKagan says album is coming

[DTJ80 925]

9 hours ago, Lim666 said:

instead of 1000s of fan emails, we should create some well thought wanted list together and let an admin from here send over our "9 steps master plan to please fans" or however we could call it.
new music sure! but if people request to get Ritz88, Paris92 etc. officially.......that should NEVER be a goal by us. We have them in really good quality already.

main focus should be unheard/unseen songs or song versions and footage we dont even have fan recordings, demos etc. from.

I agree with this - compile a wish list thats within reason. I wouldn’t omit Ritz 88 - it deserves an official release for the less fanatical who don’t know about the cool fan versions.....or at the very least some airplay of he gig/some songs on their channel. I know it may not be the best gig but it captures a time and essence.

As for a list - an easy start would be to get some cool pro shots of some songs out there - like a couple of songs from Troubadour or one of the gigs that we know was professionally filmed. Just a couple of songs would be a start!!

Edited April 19 by DTJ80

[AxlSlashthebest 222]

It's cost us nothing to us to try to do sugestions.......we have time...........and in our world we never know !!!

[Voodoochild 937]

Honestly, I wouldn't even bother to send anything. At best, they are trying to have more email adresses to send spam to.

Edited April 19 by Voodoochild

[MildlyArtistic 720]

I can understand the pandemic affecting the business side of the album, due to albums mostly serving as a means to boost profile before a tour (where artists make the real money these days).

But goddamn, business is all that matters to this band.

[dario27 27]

7 hours ago, fabrph5 said:

"we cant figure out how to release a single"  hahahahahahahaha

The reunion boom has passed.

They need to put their feet on the ground and understand whatever they release is not gonna bring back 1980's. They're not that relevant anymore.

The mainstream music scene is so diferent nowadays GNR has no place in it.

If they "can't figure out how to release a single" is because their aiming to the wrong objectives.

This is not about being better or worse than mainstream artists, is just the way things are. If they want to continue creating music, release it for the loyal base fans they already have and go to stadiums and supports them. But don't aim to achieve anything different than that.

The day they figure that out they'll release something or will just come clean and say (we're not interested in making new music)

 

[DTJ80 925]

1 hour ago, Voodoochild said:

Honestly, I wouldn't even bother to send anything. At best, they are trying to have more email adresses to send spam to.

It can’t hurt to try though....and if your spam goes through the roof just block it. Unless you are in the market for a GNR Laundry Bag.....😂

I agree with @Lim666 that we should have a complied single list of suggestions rather than 100’s of randoms which will have duplicate suggestions.

Edited April 19 by DTJ80

[Tadsy 567]

i am not that interested in a new album (not that i think it will happen anyway)..

 

i didnt realise Guns did a song with NWA back in the day that was never release (apocalypse) or something like that... now that's something i would i would love to hear if i could pick and choose what i could get my hands on.

[GNRfanJen 1,049]

I just have a few thoughts on Fernando’s Reddit posts. 

He says (as expected), that the pandemic changed all the plans they had for 2020. Other than the tour, what plans were those? The tour was announced and promoted long before the pandemic became a pandemic. We said it over and over at the time that if they had plans to release a new album, doing it to coincide with the tour announcement would be the best, most obvious way to do it to create a newfound level of excitement and buzz for the band. That didn’t happen. When a poster in that thread asked if an album release had to coincide with the tour (whenever it starts back up again), Fernando said it didn’t, but it certainly helps. Again...if that’s the case, why was there no album announcement when this tour was first announced months ago? To a similar point - when he says the album is “close” does that mean close to being completed, or close to being released? Big difference between the two, and I don’t believe he ever specified that. 

My next point is regarding the “fan and band gap” he’s referring to. It certainly seems encouraging that he publicly posted the email address and admitted to being open to ideas from fans, but has this not been done before? I’m sure he is fully aware of our gripes over the last several years, yet nothing seems to have been done, so I guess I’m just not sure why all of a sudden the interest in our ideas. And anyways, is a lot of it not common sense? Look around at literally every other band, the answers are right there. But hey, I suppose it’s worth a try (again). 

I am not trying to poke and prod at every word he says, I really try to be as level-headed and fair as possible when conveying my thoughts, but I can’t help but to question some of these things.  

(Ugh, I care way too much about this damn band. Why do they have to be my favorite?! ) 

[vloors 1,363]

14 hours ago, ll_tj1 said:

GNR nor Nando, give a shit about anyone here, or there ideas. It's just another ploy. Axl has nothing left. Any "new" music would be some regurgitated song that began 20 years ago, & would likley include 20 year old vocals. Though, I think its laughable to ever believe this band will ever release "new" (old as hell) music anyway. 

As long as there still selling tickets, what makes anyone believe they would care about anything else? There devotion to there fans?? Yeah ok.

Why would they bother saying anything if thats the case?

Btw I really liked how he recorded rock the rock 20 years ago for a future episode of the looney tunes show.

That just there showed his still happy to go in and nail vocals.

I am sure they wont be just chinese leftovers if they do release something. Chinese material for the most part is outdated. 

Edited April 20 by vloors

[ZODIAC 291]

14 hours ago, ll_tj1 said:

GNR nor Nando, give a shit about anyone here, or there ideas. It's just another ploy. Axl has nothing left. Any "new" music would be some regurgitated song that began 20 years ago, & would likley include 20 year old vocals. Though, I think its laughable to ever believe this band will ever release "new" (old as hell) music anyway. 

As long as there still selling tickets, what makes anyone believe they would care about anything else? There devotion to there fans?? Yeah ok.

I would be more than happy with an unreleased song, even if it's 20 years old. And... beside the fact, that axl still sounds great in studio, i guess his voice was way better 20 years ago. So, 20 years old vocals surely wouldn't harm a release...

[thelostrose 20]

1 hour ago, vloors said:

Why would they bother saying anything if thats the case?

Btw I really liked how he recorded rock the rock 20 years ago for a future episode of the looney tunes show.

That just there showed his still happy to go in and nail vocals.

I am sure they wont be just chinese leftovers if they do release something. Chinese material for the most part is outdated. 

They should release the leftovers CD II & III now, and then something new with Slash/Duff for the tour... what a beautiful dream... 

[Lio 4,512]

5 hours ago, GNRfanJen said:

I just have a few thoughts on Fernando’s Reddit posts. 

He says (as expected), that the pandemic changed all the plans they had for 2020. Other than the tour, what plans were those? The tour was announced and promoted long before the pandemic became a pandemic. We said it over and over at the time that if they had plans to release a new album, doing it to coincide with the tour announcement would be the best, most obvious way to do it to create a newfound level of excitement and buzz for the band. That didn’t happen. When a poster in that thread asked if an album release had to coincide with the tour (whenever it starts back up again), Fernando said it didn’t, but it certainly helps. Again...if that’s the case, why was there no album announcement when this tour was first announced months ago? To a similar point - when he says the album is “close” does that mean close to being completed, or close to being released? Big difference between the two, and I don’t believe he ever specified that. 

My next point is regarding the “fan and band gap” he’s referring to. It certainly seems encouraging that he publicly posted the email address and admitted to being open to ideas from fans, but has this not been done before? I’m sure he is fully aware of our gripes over the last several years, yet nothing seems to have been done, so I guess I’m just not sure why all of a sudden the interest in our ideas. And anyways, is a lot of it not common sense? Look around at literally every other band, the answers are right there. But hey, I suppose it’s worth a try (again). 

I am not trying to poke and prod at every word he says, I really try to be as level-headed and fair as possible when conveying my thoughts, but I can’t help but to question some of these things.  

(Ugh, I care way too much about this damn band. Why do they have to be my favorite?! ) 

My guess: Fernando doesn't know when it will be released or when it will be completely ready for Axl. If there was a set date, he'd tease us with: If only you knew what I knew. Or: 2021 is going to be unbelievable. My guess would be there was a date set, because he said last September or whenever, within 6 months, so roughly with the start of the tour in Mexico/SA. Then GNR/Axl happened again and it got postponed. And then corona happened, and that's a great excuse. Literally everything is uncertain now.

As for the gap between fans and band, you're absolutely right. So many people have tried to reach out and improve the situation between band and fans and all they've done is run into a brick wall. And it is common sense to treat fans with decency and communicate better. Sadly, this is something that Fernando isn't great at. Neither is his mother. Some people have a natural flair to deal with others and make them feel good. But they have a natural flair to rub people the wrong way. Honestly, after having done this for so many years, they should've gotten some training in communications. How is it possible Axl doesn't see this? They travel with a circus of assistants and I don't know what (Andrei ), but I can't think of anyone with great communication skills. They pick a fan to travel with them and moderate their official forum and it's Jarmo. All due respect to Jarmo, I have no problems with him, but he's not the world's best communicator and even less of a reconciling figure.

The only ones from the entourage fans have a completely non-hostile interaction with, seem to be Meegan and (to a lesser degree) Susan. That is because they're nice to fans, at shows and on social media.

Anyway, that's my take on it. I don't see anything changing anymore. (Unless this quarantine suddenly gives them a lot of time and insight ) I would just like new music and a tour again when this nightmare is over.

[WhazUp 3,998]

While I think that it is at least somewhat of step forward, with that "email us ideas" in an attempt to extend an olive branch - at this point do they really need emailed ideas to figure out what the fans want?

At this point, there is plenty of GNR merchandise out there.  They are playing shows - well not right now because nobody is, but you know what I mean lol.  The only thing left to do is either release studio material in any sort of form (album, EP, digital single, etc.) or live albums comprised of either shows from the old days or the reunion.  

In other worlds, we simply want our favorite band, to act like they are actually a band.  And maybe communicating why that isn't possible apparently, may at least be a good start - if we can't have any of the above stated things.

Edited April 20 by WhazUp

[axlvai 264]

Well... i dont have Fernando email, but if he can read this:

- Show some record/mix video or let us see something tangible to talk about the new album. Its painfull to read/make more than 150 page of nothing. Its really easy to make.

- Some of us want to buy music and Blurays. Make it happen! 

- We want exclusive material to buy. What about money goals contributed by fans to get that exclusive stuff? Like documentaries or completes shows from Canters Vault for ex?

Ty.

[Sydney Fan 1,876]

I think if i remember the bands attitude during 87 to 93 they seemed to be fan friendly. Especially with onstage axl rants just before the illusions came out with dissing Geffen for taking ages on releasing the albums. Then telling fans onstage during the illusion period of mixing up the setlist.

Then it seems sometime during the nuguns phase it was "we as a band owe the fans nothing. A fan pays for a ticket we play". nothing more nothing less. Somewhere axl no longer cared about what fans thought about gnr. I dont know why. If i read somd of the online chats axl had with fans, he had a real cut and dried type response. Maybe it was to do with the age of the internet, who knows.

Edited April 20 by Sydney Fan

[DurhamGirl 367]

5 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

I think if i remember the bands attitude during 87 to 93 they seemed to be fan friendly. Especially with onstage axl rants just before the illusions came out with dissing Geffen for taking ages on releasing the albums. Then telling fans onstage during the illusion period of mixing up the setlist.

Then it seems sometime during the nuguns phase it was "we as a band owe the fans nothing. A fan pays for a ticket we play". nothing more nothing less. Somewhere axl no longer cared about what fans thought about gnr. I dont know why. If i read somd of the online chats axl had with fans, he had a real cut and dried type response. Maybe it was to do with the age of the internet, who knows.

One of the reasons could very well be the internet, so called 'information' must have quadrupled including a load of made up stuff etc

[UseYourDemocracyIII 50]

What do people think are actually the chances of GnR releasing something? I want to hear from the optimists and the pessimists; I fell into this rabbit hole of GnR'dom in 2017 after going to see them and I know there are people here who know this band infinitely better than I ever will.

[ShadowOfTheWave 761]

14 minutes ago, UseYourDemocracyIII said:

What do people think are actually the chances of GnR releasing something? I want to hear from the optimists and the pessimists; I fell into this rabbit hole of GnR'dom in 2017 after going to see them and I know there are people here who know this band infinitely better than I ever will.

30% and that's my optimistic side. I believe Axl has serious intentions to release something, but he somehow always withdrawals when it's time to deliver.

[mikeman5150 253]

27 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

30% and that's my optimistic side. I believe Axl has serious intentions to release something, but he somehow always withdrawals when it's time to deliver.

Sadly I have to agree, but really hope I’m wrong! 

[Sonicjam 19]

Does anybody have a screenshot or text exhert of what Fernando said? Perhaps put it on the 1st comment for everyone? Having trouble finding it on here and reddit. Thanks!

[marinergtfc 109]

Dear Fernando

Here’s the first idea for you.

Upload a new pro-shot Use Your Illusion show every week on the official YouTube channel.

 

that would be a good start.

[allwaystired 2,273]

2 hours ago, UseYourDemocracyIII said:

What do people think are actually the chances of GnR releasing something? I want to hear from the optimists and the pessimists; I fell into this rabbit hole of GnR'dom in 2017 after going to see them and I know there are people here who know this band infinitely better than I ever will.

I'd go with 'very unlikely at any point in the near future'. 

I'd imagine that when Axl passes away the vaults will open and we'll get unreleased stuff at that point. That seems to be the case with most deceased musical acts. 

[WildStar 444]

55 minutes ago, marinergtfc said:

Dear Fernando

Here’s the first idea for you.

Upload a new pro-shot Use Your Illusion show every week on the official YouTube channel.

 

that would be a good start.

Yes either that or let us buy Them! 

[imsorry 87]

Make a live stream debuting Hard Skool release it as single and donates part of the earns to covid victims could be a good start.

[jimisbatman 75]

57 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

I'd go with 'very unlikely at any point in the near future'. 

I'd imagine that when Axl passes away the vaults will open and we'll get unreleased stuff at that point. That seems to be the case with most deceased musical acts. 

Sad but true