Nice Boy 310 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Fortus doesn't have the back catalogue or iconic stature of Slash, but he is undoubtedly on a par with him in terms of skill, to the extent that I'm actually surprised Slash is comfortable being in a band with another player who could easily match him playing lead. They've got a great symbiosis though. 7 hours ago, Gimpy Hewitt said: Can’t wait till this hits 200 pages with still no concrete news contributing to the topic Hey, as the Fox News slogan should be, "No news is good news" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post fowlerisgod 63 Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, Nice Boy said: Fortus doesn't have the back catalogue or iconic stature of Slash, but he is undoubtedly on a par with him in terms of skill, to the extent that I'm actually surprised Slash is comfortable being in a band with another player who could easily match him playing lead. They've got a great symbiosis though. Hey, as the Fox News slogan should be, "No news is good news" There are shitloads of technically skilled guitarists...take a look at youtube...the real skill comes from writing memorable songs, riffs, solos..making people emote...Fortus has no track record of doing that...it's absurd how he is highly rated by some on this forum 10 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NicoGNR5 93 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 11 minutes ago, fowlerisgod said: There are shitloads of technically skilled guitarists...take a look at youtube...the real skill comes from writing memorable songs, riffs, solos..making people emote...Fortus has no track record of doing that...it's absurd how he is highly rated by some on this forum I agree 100%. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Rovim 4,925 Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 33 minutes ago, fowlerisgod said: There are shitloads of technically skilled guitarists...take a look at youtube...the real skill comes from writing memorable songs, riffs, solos..making people emote...Fortus has no track record of doing that...it's absurd how he is highly rated by some on this forum Fortus has a lot of feel as a player imo. Not just technical ability. This is so warm sounding and tasteful. One of the "real skills" is expressing emotion with your playing, not only writing memorable tunes. Not like Axl gave him a chance to show what he can do in Guns but I think Slash and Richard can be a killer combination in the studio. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alangarcianr 54 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Fortus made a great job in Love Spit Love. Frank played drums there as well. But I have no idea if he composed anything after LSL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnrjanus 78 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 He wrote a lot with the dead daisies. Really great tunes 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Sweersa 426 Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 On 5/3/2020 at 6:09 AM, allwaystired said: Undoubtedly true. But the best guitarist currently in GNR?! Come on! Crazy statement! Best from a skill level standpoint, not a celeb iconic standpoint. 2 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldnews 68 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 21 hours ago, Gimpy Hewitt said: Can’t wait till this hits 200 pages with still no concrete news contributing to the topic people waited for years for CD and when the album came out some people didn't even buy it, just added my 2 cents on the way to 200 pages Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2020_Intensions 358 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 hours ago, Rovim said: Fortus has a lot of feel as a player imo. Not just technical ability. This is so warm sounding and tasteful. One of the "real skills" is expressing emotion with your playing, not only writing memorable tunes. Not like Axl gave him a chance to show what he can do in Guns but I think Slash and Richard can be a killer combination in the studio. That little jam sounded like he was getting ready to go into SOD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,227 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 18 minutes ago, oldnews said: people waited for years for CD and when the album came out some people didn't even buy it, just added my 2 cents on the way to 200 pages Naughty little scamps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeeJay410 928 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Fortus is an excellent technical guitar player. He has a nice style and tone, and a personality that meshes well with Axl Slash and Duff. That is more than enough for what they need in a non-Izzy guitarist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Gordon Comstock 5,234 Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, Creed said: A combo of Slash / Finck and Ashba / Slash could have worked, too. If Ashba had been the rhythm guitarist on the NITL tour, people would've complained 100X more than they complained about Fortus Honestly if they couldn't make it work with Izzy, then Richard was the next best choice. Wish You Were Here was cool (at least when they first started playing it) and him and Slash seem to click really well on most songs, I think an album full of Slash/Fortus would be really good. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,227 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 03/05/2020 at 6:13 PM, Gimpy Hewitt said: Can’t wait till this hits 200 pages with still no concrete news contributing to the topic Imagine how thrilled you'll be when we get to 300! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Holographic Universe 925 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/3/2020 at 7:24 PM, fowlerisgod said: There are shitloads of technically skilled guitarists...take a look at youtube...the real skill comes from writing memorable songs, riffs, solos..making people emote...Fortus has no track record of doing that...it's absurd how he is highly rated by some on this forum I don’t think anybody rates him high as a player with solid musical contributions, I think people are just saying his skill set is high enough to play rhythm guitar in GNR. Seriously, Gilby is cool AF to me and I loved the guy, but what has he done? Frank is maybe the only weak link and I believe Slash and Duff rehearsed with him until they felt comfortable to go on stage with him as the drummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-Ass 7,595 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 5/3/2020 at 8:24 PM, fowlerisgod said: There are shitloads of technically skilled guitarists...take a look at youtube...the real skill comes from writing memorable songs, riffs, solos..making people emote...Fortus has no track record of doing that...it's absurd how he is highly rated by some on this forum I have shut off many youtube performances half way through due to his solos deflating a song... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tom-Ass 7,595 Posted May 5 Popular Post Share Posted May 5 12 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: Gilby is cool AF to me and I loved the guy, but what has he done? He was on the Spaghetti Incident and most of Live Era. He was an instrumental part in making those acoustic sets as amazing as they were. His backing vocals are greatly underrated. I know he never contributed to Gn'R original studio material but all the evidence we have shows that he could have definitely had some song writing chemistry with the band.. Slash especially. Vocals aside most people agree that the first Snakepit album kicked ass musically. That was Slash, Matt and Gilby... His first solo album featured Axl, Slash, Matt, Dizzy.. Maybe Duff too. The songs he did with Slash on that record were great as well as the Dead Flowers cover with Axl. Unfortunately we will never know, but I think he could have continued to evolve flawlessly with the band.. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juventino 330 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Tom-Ass said: He was on the Spaghetti Incident and most of Live Era. He was an instrumental part in making those acoustic sets as amazing as they were. His backing vocals are greatly underrated. I know he never contributed to Gn'R original studio material but all the evidence we have shows that he could have definitely had some song writing chemistry with the band.. Slash especially. Vocals aside most people agree that the first Snakepit album kicked ass musically. That was Slash, Matt and Gilby... His first solo album featured Axl, Slash, Matt, Dizzy.. Maybe Duff too. The songs he did with Slash on that record were great as well as the Dead Flowers cover with Axl. Unfortunately we will never know, but I think he could have continued to evolve flawlessly with the band.. And there are some great tunes on Pawnshop Guitars. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metallex78 366 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 52 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: He was on the Spaghetti Incident and most of Live Era. He was an instrumental part in making those acoustic sets as amazing as they were. His backing vocals are greatly underrated. I know he never contributed to Gn'R original studio material but all the evidence we have shows that he could have definitely had some song writing chemistry with the band.. Slash especially. Vocals aside most people agree that the first Snakepit album kicked ass musically. That was Slash, Matt and Gilby... His first solo album featured Axl, Slash, Matt, Dizzy.. Maybe Duff too. The songs he did with Slash on that record were great as well as the Dead Flowers cover with Axl. Unfortunately we will never know, but I think he could have continued to evolve flawlessly with the band.. Pretty much all of this above 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,185 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said: He was on the Spaghetti Incident and most of Live Era. He was an instrumental part in making those acoustic sets as amazing as they were. His backing vocals are greatly underrated. I know he never contributed to Gn'R original studio material but all the evidence we have shows that he could have definitely had some song writing chemistry with the band.. Slash especially. Vocals aside most people agree that the first Snakepit album kicked ass musically. That was Slash, Matt and Gilby... His first solo album featured Axl, Slash, Matt, Dizzy.. Maybe Duff too. The songs he did with Slash on that record were great as well as the Dead Flowers cover with Axl. Unfortunately we will never know, but I think he could have continued to evolve flawlessly with the band.. I agree. Love Gilby and I think he's a great songwriter and guitarist. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gold top 78 345 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 7 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: He was on the Spaghetti Incident and most of Live Era. He was an instrumental part in making those acoustic sets as amazing as they were. His backing vocals are greatly underrated. I know he never contributed to Gn'R original studio material but all the evidence we have shows that he could have definitely had some song writing chemistry with the band.. Slash especially. Vocals aside most people agree that the first Snakepit album kicked ass musically. That was Slash, Matt and Gilby... His first solo album featured Axl, Slash, Matt, Dizzy.. Maybe Duff too. The songs he did with Slash on that record were great as well as the Dead Flowers cover with Axl. Unfortunately we will never know, but I think he could have continued to evolve flawlessly with the band.. Totally agree i thought Gilby was a good replacement for Izzy it’s just a pity Axl didn’t see it that way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZODIAC 284 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I'm wondering, when this thread finally turns into this 'who is "real Gn'R" ' crap discussion. 😉 I think we are very close... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,227 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, ZODIAC said: I'm wondering, when this thread finally turns into this 'who is "real Gn'R" ' crap discussion. 😉 I think we are very close... Most threads go down that route eventually! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweersa 426 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Let's just end this debate and all agree Paul Tobias carries the GN'R name with his guitar. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post allwaystired 2,227 Posted May 5 Popular Post Share Posted May 5 Just now, Sweersa said: Let's just end this debate and all agree Paul Tobias carries the GN'R name with his guitar. He probably carries the name on his guitar case. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweersa 426 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 So eventual CD2 song credits, how many times will Robin, Paul, Brain, and Buckethead appear on it in both writing and performance on the record? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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