The "New Album" Thread - Susan McKagan says album is coming

[MaskingApathy 2,108]

3 hours ago, MidnightToker said:

Agreed. I think some of the harsher criticism of Myles on this board comes from people who are upset that their favorite frontman sings like Mickey Mouse now. 

I agree. And for the people saying that they don't like the SMKC songs because they're too generic or whatever, I guarantee that if it were Axl singing on some of those songs and they were released under the GnR name you all would be all over them.

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4 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I agree. And for the people saying that they don't like the SMKC songs because they're too generic or whatever, I guarantee that if it were Axl singing on some of those songs and they were released under the GnR name you all would be all over them.

But thats exactly due to the Axl effect...He makes everything he sings on better.

You just said it right there...if Myles sings it we overlook it, if Axls there, well, the song becomes better immediatly

[WhazUp 3,903]

31 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I agree. And for the people saying that they don't like the SMKC songs because they're too generic or whatever, I guarantee that if it were Axl singing on some of those songs and they were released under the GnR name you all would be all over them.

It depends, would Axl be keeping the same vocal melodies as Myles had?  If so, I don't know if I would be impressed too much.  I am not a fan of Shotgun Blues for example, for that very reason - just a very paint by numbers GNR song that just is a bit forgettable in my opinion

But if Axl re-writes a melody that turns "Generic Slash riff song #1" into a more memorable tune overall I would say Axl-ifying it would make it all the more better.  Or if GNR takes Slash's initial idea and adds onto it like the band did back in the day

At least for myself, I don't consider me thinking that the songwriting in SMKC is lacking overall, to be a double standard in that sense.  My main gripe is the generic songwriting, not how Myles sings the songs tonally

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[MaskingApathy 2,108]

2 hours ago, Alejandro GNR said:

But thats exactly due to the Axl effect...He makes everything he sings on better.

You just said it right there...if Myles sings it we overlook it, if Axls there, well, the song becomes better immediatly

Not when he's doing Mickey Mouse, then it's not better.

[Free Bird 1,871]

36 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Not when he's doing Mickey Mouse, then it's not better.

Of course it's not becoming better immediatly when Axl is singing something. So many CD songs already proofed that.

But I tend to believe that there is (or was) some kind of chemistry between Axl and Slash, that Axl is just the better fit for him. I said it earlier, I love many songs Slash has written and released over the last 3 decades, but I think Axl and Izzy could have improved all of them.

Axl's work ethic is another story...

 

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4 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

John Frusciante just confirmed that the Chili Peppers will be recording their new album starting next week and into next month.

Even a recluse like Frusciante is getting shit done with his band, while also working on two different solo albums and even a radio show now. Axl has no excuse!

Link? 

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On 6/21/2020 at 4:54 AM, Blackstar said:

I read that Myles is working on a new solo album currently - and, logically, he'll want to tour it when tours start again. So, I guess, there are no plans for SMKC in the near future (I won't pretend that I'm unhappy about this ).

He confirmed it on Download TV. He said he has two albums basically written but hadn't decided which one he would be putting out. I for one quite enjoy SMKC but Myles solo show that I saw was frankly just a little bit better than that SMKC show I saw so I'm okay if it means another Myles solo tour. 

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On 6/4/2020 at 9:50 PM, Live Like a Suicide said:

It's like Groundhog Day in here.

Groundhog Day was adapted into a broadway musical, for which there is an official cast album recording. Basically what I'm saying is Groundhog Day resulted in new music faster than GN'R.

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17 hours ago, dragan1978 said:

Myles is a fantastic guitar player and has absolutely great vocal, no question about it!!!

and I do understand if you do not like it, it is alright

just wanted to say anything positive about Myles as you all just bitch about him

 

Totally agree.

To preface, I am as hardcore a GN'R fan as anyone. IMO vintage AXL is the best rock & roll voice I've ever heard.

I had no clue who Myles Kennedy was until I went to one of SLASH's shows in 2010 at the Warfield Theater in SF for his solo album. At the show I then realized, "ok this is the guy that sings Starlight and Back to Cali". Which just happened to be among my favorite songs on that album.

After the show, I began investigating and listening to Alter Bridge, who I was only luke warm to for a while. But over time, I've grown to really love AB and, by proxy, Myles.

I've enjoyed each of the SMKC albums released to this point in time.

Myles isn't vintage AXL, of course. But I still really like his vocals on most songs. Like any vocalist, there are songs I'm not wild about. But on the whole he is very good IMO. When singing GN'R tunes, he offers a different (not equal, certainly not better) spin on the material. I'm very ok with it. I even like when Todd 'Dammit' Kerns sings WTTJ. It's different. And not terrible.

In reality, folks complaining about Myles singing GN'R material is no different than AC/DC fans complaining about AXL singing AC/DC's catalogue. While many were pleasantly surprised at the result, they still greatly prefer Brian Johnson. And rightfully so.

The other thing about Myles is that I greatly appreciate his guitar work. He's very underrated in that regard. His portion of the solo on Blackbird is phenomenal, as is Tremonti's. I really think he and SLASH work well together as guitarists and musicians. I greatly prefer AXl and SLASH, but in a world where we can have both, I'm quite alright with it.

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Myles is also very prolific - since 2004 he's released 6 Alter Bridge albums, 4 live Alter Bridge albums, 3 SMKC albums, 3 live SMKC albums, a solo album, and regularly toured all the above.

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3 hours ago, thunderram said:

 

Totally agree.

To preface, I am as hardcore a GN'R fan as anyone. IMO vintage AXL is the best rock & roll voice I've ever heard.

I had no clue who Myles Kennedy was until I went to one of SLASH's shows in 2010 at the Warfield Theater in SF for his solo album. At the show I then realized, "ok this is the guy that sings Starlight and Back to Cali". Which just happened to be among my favorite songs on that album.

After the show, I began investigating and listening to Alter Bridge, who I was only luke warm to for a while. But over time, I've grown to really love AB and, by proxy, Myles.

I've enjoyed each of the SMKC albums released to this point in time.

Myles isn't vintage AXL, of course. But I still really like his vocals on most songs. Like any vocalist, there are songs I'm not wild about. But on the whole he is very good IMO. When singing GN'R tunes, he offers a different (not equal, certainly not better) spin on the material. I'm very ok with it. I even like when Todd 'Dammit' Kerns sings WTTJ. It's different. And not terrible.

In reality, folks complaining about Myles singing GN'R material is no different than AC/DC fans complaining about AXL singing AC/DC's catalogue. While many were pleasantly surprised at the result, they still greatly prefer Brian Johnson. And rightfully so.

The other thing about Myles is that I greatly appreciate his guitar work. He's very underrated in that regard. His portion of the solo on Blackbird is phenomenal, as is Tremonti's. I really think he and SLASH work well together as guitarists and musicians. I greatly prefer AXl and SLASH, but in a world where we can have both, I'm quite alright with it.

Totally support your post 

also, when I found about Alter bridge, it was a slow grower too but now it is in my top 5 bands, they are amazing!

[Tom2112 2,102]

9 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

John Frusciante just confirmed that the Chili Peppers will be recording their new album starting next week and into next month.

Even a recluse like Frusciante is getting shit done with his band, while also working on two different solo albums and even a radio show now. Axl has no excuse!

Fernandos response "we're not RHCP, there are different circumstances at play" he didn't actually say that, but it's his cut and paste BS response to anything related to actually getting new music out.

As for Axl, I don't count he works on material... but I'm starting to think it's just another Prince vault thing, where he records for his own pleasure without intent of releasing anything, or if he does release something it needs to be the exact right time and band surrounding him.

[Italian girl 2,618]

16 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

 "we're not RHCP,

thanks God

[rocknroll41 2,179]

8 hours ago, GoForJMark said:

Link? 

On this reddit thread, it’s mentioned that John’s gf confirmed the new RHCP album plans for this month via her instagram: https://www.reddit.com/r/RedHotChiliPeppers/comments/he20pm/news_john_has_cancelled_his_radioshow_on_june/

 

[MidnightToker 156]

6 hours ago, ToonGuns said:

Myles is also very prolific - since 2004 he's released 6 Alter Bridge albums, 4 live Alter Bridge albums, 3 SMKC albums, 3 live SMKC albums, a solo album, and regularly toured all the above.

I was about to say this too. Myles has released 10 studio albums compared to one GNR album in the same time period. At least he delivers for his fans, unlike a certain other singer who seems to enjoy trolling his. 

[Tom2112 2,102]

4 hours ago, Italian girl said:

thanks God

Ha! I 100% agree. Although, seeing RHCP in 2018 was was better than any sleeping pill... so they have their use!

[rocknroll41 2,179]

14 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Ha! I 100% agree. Although, seeing RHCP in 2018 was was better than any sleeping pill... so they have their use!

They’re more energetic when Frusciante is around though!

[Tom2112 2,102]

3 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

They’re more energetic when Frusciante is around though!

Sorry! Not trying to shit on them, but I've watched them with Frusciante and and it's hit and miss. Anthony looks like he'd like to be anywhere but on stage a lot of the time, reminds me of Axl dragging his feet at the 02 in Dublin 2010. When I saw them in 2018, Flea was doing his schtick, and the rest of the band just looked bored... and completely separate from each other... didn't seem like there was much love, and almost zero interaction with each other. I remember when they used to be fun and energetic. The music they play just doesn't work if they are up their gritting their teeth until the end.

I love some of their music, and some of their live stuff from the early 90s late 80s was great, but they are an energy void for me!

[rocknroll41 2,179]

9 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Sorry! Not trying to shit on them, but I've watched them with Frusciante and and it's hit and miss. Anthony looks like he'd like to be anywhere but on stage a lot of the time, reminds me of Axl dragging his feet at the 02 in Dublin 2010. When I saw them in 2018, Flea was doing his schtick, and the rest of the band just looked bored... and completely separate from each other... didn't seem like there was much love, and almost zero interaction with each other. I remember when they used to be fun and energetic. The music they play just doesn't work if they are up their gritting their teeth until the end.

I love some of their music, and some of their live stuff from the early 90s late 80s was great, but they are an energy void for me!

They were a more exciting live band in the late 80s and early 90s, I’ll give you that! I think a lot of it just has to do with age, tho. GnR look kinda bored these days too, to be fair.

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[Tom2112 2,102]

14 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

They were a more exciting live band in the late 80s and early 90s, I’ll give you that! I think a lot of it just has to do with age, tho. GnR look kinda bored these days too, to be fair.

Well at points every band is going to look a bit bored especially after 4 years of mostly the same songs. A gnr concert from 93 compared to now in terms of showmanship is relatively the same as a concert in 2020. As far as the actual musical bits go, that's another story. Kiedis is also flat as a pancake live, he makes JBJ look like an opera singer... but in his favour he still sounds like the records, which Axl is definitely struggling with.

Same goes for Pearl Jam! the music has all this energy and then you look on stage, there's zero in stage show, the band members look like they just finished their shift at the local college.

Edited June 23 by Tom2112

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20 hours ago, ToonGuns said:

Myles is also very prolific - since 2004 he's released 6 Alter Bridge albums, 4 live Alter Bridge albums, 3 SMKC albums, 3 live SMKC albums, a solo album, and regularly toured all the above.

Not to mention wrote and recorded another solo album which he shelved and because he believes songs have a shelf life he won't release it. (Wrote 2 more during quarantine). In addition to 2 albums with The Mayfield Four in 1999 and 2002 which aren't half bad albums either!

 

He is quite the workhorse.

Edited June 24 by The Dissident

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GNR fans everywhere will forever owe a debt of gratitude to Myles Kennedy.

In a pre-reunion world where it looked like Axl/Slash would never share the stage again he was  responsible for Slash being able to revisit the GNR catalog again in ways he hadn't been able to in the 15+ year period after he left the band.

GNR is a notoriously hard band to cover without sounding like bad karaoke, so Slash was essentially limited over the years to the "easy" ones like Brownstone and It's so Easy that can be more easily handled. 

Myles range however let him thread that needle of having a guy who can credibly sing the songs without sounding like he's trying to be an Axl impersonator or  lead a cover band. People don't appreciate how hard that is to do, and the fact he is  the first guy Slash trusted in that way since leaving GNR  should tell you how much he respects his talent.

As someone who just missed the band's height before breaking up in 93 (I was born in 81) it was thrilling to finally get to hear Slash playing SCOM,Nightrain, Civil War, YCBM  and others on a nightly basis after fearing I might never get a chance to see him do it live.

I finally got to see GNR with the reunion, but will always be thankful Slash found Myles at a time when I was wondering if I would ever get to see Slash rip through the  GNR classics and  have them sound damn good in  the process.

Myles took an impossible assignment and more than credibly pulled it off without ever looking like DJ Ashba parody trying to be Slash when faced with a similar task. He was humble, sang the songs, and never tried to be something he's not and I think that is  why people respected Slash's band the way they did as it never came off as trying to be a GNR cover band even when they were playing the songs (musically they actually sound more like GNR did than GNR does these days).

I stand by that much of the supposed backlash on this board against Myles was because  deep down in places people don't want to admit they knew he was doing a good job and wished like hell Axl would be  a professional like that who took it as seriously, keeps himself in shape, looking good and sounding good despite growing older. Axl wouldn't have become the butt of jokes as he has if he took his job even half as seriously as Myles does. The constant attacks on the  guy in these parts actually struck me more as the school yard kid who goes up and harasses  the girl he really likes while telling anyone who will listen how much he hates her.

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On 6/22/2020 at 8:47 PM, MaskingApathy said:

I agree. And for the people saying that they don't like the SMKC songs because they're too generic or whatever, I guarantee that if it were Axl singing on some of those songs and they were released under the GnR name you all would be all over them.

Slash with Myles Kennedy reminds be of Black Sabbath with Tony Martin. Kennedy, like Martin, is technically a very good singer, but there are a lot of good singers out there. Both Martin and Kennedy are just really, really generic, there's nothing special about either one. I also think Kennedy is a much better fit in Alter Bridge. I'd take Axl in 2020 over Myles and it's not even close and I would never compare the two. 

If Axl sang on those SMKC albums it would be a huge improvement, but I think Axll and the rest of the band would work with the material and make it even better. 

 

 

 

Edited June 24 by RichardNixon

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9 minutes ago, RichardNixon said:

If Axl sang on those SMKC albums it would be a huge improvement, but I think Axll and the rest of the band would work with the material and make it even better. 

 

Slash's 2008 solo album is pretty much his only solo work (non GN'R or VR) I enjoy. Nothing against the talented vocalists on that album, but I always thought it would have been killer with Axl on most of those songs. 

[ToonGuns 435]

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

Slash's 2008 solo album is pretty much his only solo work (non GN'R or VR) I enjoy. Nothing against the talented vocalists on that album, but I always thought it would have been killer with Axl on most of those songs. 

To he fair with Josh drumming on that album there was more members of "Guns n Roses" on that album than there was in Guns n Roses by that point, as even MK2-3 Guns (Bucket lineup etc) had moved into MK4-5. 

Edit: Ain't Life Grand is a fantastic album, check that out.

Edited June 24 by ToonGuns