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"YOU WANTED A NEW ALBUM? WELL THEY DIDN'T FUCKIN' MAKE IT. SO HERE'S WHAT YOU GET, FROM HOLLYWOOD"

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6 minutes ago, Route66 said:

There won't be a new album any time soon

probably not, but I still believe Axl will try to release a final Gn'R album with Slash. There's no point in arguing with any fan who thinks Axl simply isn't interested in releasing new music anymore (and I can understand why some feel that way after 12 years of nothing) but I don't think it's cause he doesn't want to do it so there's still a chance it might happen imo.

 

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2 minutes ago, ZODIAC said:

I had that very feeling in 2011 too, man!😂

Today is the end of the Maya calendar... so this time is no time. We will get it. Trust me.

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2 hours ago, axlvai said:

Today is the end of the Maya calendar... so this time is no time. We will get it. Trust me.

😂 well... there must be an alternate timeline. My guess is, that Team Brazil travelled back in time to the year 2012 and prevented an album release back then, to make sure that the 'fam' can tour the nostalgic act over and over again.

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4 hours ago, Rovim said:

probably not, but I still believe Axl will try to release a final Gn'R album with Slash. There's no point in arguing with any fan who thinks Axl simply isn't interested in releasing new music anymore (and I can understand why some feel that way after 12 years of nothing) but I don't think it's cause he doesn't want to do it so there's still a chance it might happen imo.

 

Really hope you are right...

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9 minutes ago, Rovim said:

if not, I'll quit the business

He has every intention of making new music... it's just his intention to follow through with the release that I question. I think it should eventually happen, but there's no guarantee.

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2 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

He has every intention of making new music... it's just his intention to follow through with the release that I question. I think it should eventually happen, but there's no guarantee.

I have no idea what's going on in the mind of Axl Rose, but I think his intention is to release a Gn'R album that will fulfill certain criteria and I'm guessing those are:

1. the music and the lyrics should evolve in some way compared to previous Gn'R records (something Richard has alluded to recently)

2. the album can't be just another hard rock album without making any kind of meaningful (to Axl at least) musical statement, it should work as a complete piece, so every tune in it should play a part in forming a cohesive product. (Axl talked about looking at it like a painting in the past, every detail must fit or something to that effect)

3. maybe he wants it to be regarded as an important continuation in the Gn'R catalog, and to promote it in a big way with a huge tour so it has the best chance in succeeding commercially as much as possible but as always, it's only speculation.

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There’s a part of me that thinks Axl suspects it’s probably going to be the last GNR album and wants it to be ‘perfect’ but then common sense kicks in and I remind myself it’s just a record, you know, a bunch of songs packaged together. It shouldn’t  be rocket science 

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3 minutes ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

I'm little bit more optimist....a plan a double and maybe a triple. Axl are enought crazy to do that !!!

I  actually think a double album is a reasonable idea. Axl supposedly got all this material to work with and if they release another album, it's probably going to be their last. Tommy said Chinese was supposed to be more than just 1 album anyway and it will be cool if they'll have enough space to represent old tunes and new ones as well.

Enough room for all of Axl's more ambitious inclinations and Slash's classic hard rock compositions. I wonder how long we could wait for something like that though. I'm guessing... longer.

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In fact, Axl could do one album after another, but that would require him to tour less, think twice about the songs he selects for live performance, and focus more on releasing stuff (also getting professional management wouldn't hurt). It's not as bad as some seem to think, but a thing like this would need a substantive change of approach.

He nailed it in 2016, and the same could happen again, naturally. The Covid affair is complicating things, but on the ohter hand, it provides more time and prevents touring, which - in our case - is a good thing.

We may speculate here, but these guys apparently just won't accommodate to the internet culture and release stuff online, especially without competent management that would push them in such direction. So they've probably been taking their sweet time, laying poolside, drinking margaritas, and basking in their touring income. Don't see anything particularly wrong about it, except that we could have gotten at least some proper videos in the meantime, like old pro-shots etc. Same old... 

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6 minutes ago, jamillos said:

In fact, Axl could do one album after another, but that would require him to tour less, think twice about the songs he selects for live performance, and focus more on releasing stuff (also getting professional management wouldn't hurt). It's not as bad as some seem to think, but a thing like this would need a substantive change of approach.

He nailed it in 2016, and the same could happen again, naturally. The Covid affair is complicating things, but on the ohter hand, it provides more time and prevents touring, which - in our case - is a good thing.

We may speculate here, but these guys apparently just won't accommodate to the internet culture and release stuff online, especially without competent management that would push them in such direction. So they've probably been taking their sweet time, laying poolside, drinking margaritas, and basking in their touring income. Don't see anything particularly wrong about it, except that we could have gotten at least some proper videos in the meantime, like old pro-shots etc. Same old... 

I think the most important thing is that the quality is at least somewhat comparable to the rest of the albums in Gn'R's catalog. Like Faith No More's Sol Invictus or Tool's Fear Inoculum. It didn't fuck it up. Maybe less like Metallica's Hardwired. Double albums seemed to go over well for Metallica and Maiden fans. (The Book Of Souls)

at least when Slash says he's working on Guns stuff I can believe it and he usually comes up with a lot of ideas so I don't think lack of old or new ideas should be a problem.

maybe it's best to just release a potential double album all at once so Axl doesn't get a chance to not be in the mood to release the second half.

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18 minutes ago, jamillos said:

In fact, Axl could do one album after another, but that would require him to tour less, think twice about the songs he selects for live performance, and focus more on releasing stuff (also getting professional management wouldn't hurt). It's not as bad as some seem to think, but a thing like this would need a substantive change of approach.

He nailed it in 2016, and the same could happen again, naturally. The Covid affair is complicating things, but on the ohter hand, it provides more time and prevents touring, which - in our case - is a good thing.

We may speculate here, but these guys apparently just won't accommodate to the internet culture and release stuff online, especially without competent management that would push them in such direction. So they've probably been taking their sweet time, laying poolside, drinking margaritas, and basking in their touring income. Don't see anything particularly wrong about it, except that we could have gotten at least some proper videos in the meantime, like old pro-shots etc. Same old... 

Wasnt that supposed axls intentions with CD and CD2?.. release CD , tour for abit then drop CD2 not long afterwards?. Keeping in mind this was during a time when axl felt inspired with the lineup as it was at the time.

In terms of new music, i think it will be hybrid. I understand marc canter saying axl feels like each new album should be an evolution. But i think theres room for experiment and to add the usual rockers from slash.I think axls over thinks because hes afraid of any new release to feel "dated". I hope we get a triple new album, but will most likely get one album.

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I’m not really sure if there’s enough good material from the cd2 tracks to warrant a full album, let alone a double.

If the village leaks are anything to go by, the only songs with “potential” are Hardschool, Atlas, Perhaps, and (assuming these all have lyrics now) Quick Song, Zodiac, Berlin, Curly Shuffle, Soul Monster, Mustache, and Tonto. All of the other ones sound too “pitman-ish,” or too “buckethead-ish,” and so on, if you catch my drift.

Then there’s also The General, which we haven’t heard much of but the little we did hear sounded promising. And then there’s Seven, which we haven’t heard at all yet but I assume it’s done, since people talked about it so much.

So there’s probably just BARELY enough good songs from the cd2 sessions to fill up one disc. So if the band wanted to do a double album, they better be ready to write plenty of extra songs!

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33 minutes ago, Rovim said:

maybe it's best to just release a potential double album all at once so Axl doesn't get a chance to not be in the mood to release the second half.

:lol:

31 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

Wasnt that supposed axls intentions with CD and CD2?.. release CD , tour for abit then drop CD2 not long afterwards?. Keeping in mind this was during a time when axl felt inspired with the lineup as it was at the time.

In terms of new music, i think it will be hybrid. I understand marc canter saying axl feels like each new album should be an evolution. But i think theres room for experiment and to add the usual rockers from slash.I think axls over thinks because hes afraid of any new release to feel "dated". I hope we get a triple new album, but will most likely get one album.

Yeah, but that was overall pain in the butt, as he said himself, so it could/should be different this time. Especially since the top hat man is back, who's not just a hired gun and his voice counts. 

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5 hours ago, Rovim said:

I think the most important thing is that the quality is at least somewhat comparable to the rest of the albums in Gn'R's catalog. Like Faith No More's Sol Invictus or Tool's Fear Inoculum. It didn't fuck it up. Maybe less like Metallica's Hardwired. Double albums seemed to go over well for Metallica and Maiden fans. (The Book Of Souls)

at least when Slash says he's working on Guns stuff I can believe it and he usually comes up with a lot of ideas so I don't think lack of old or new ideas should be a problem.

maybe it's best to just release a potential double album all at once so Axl doesn't get a chance to not be in the mood to release the second half.

Hardwired was a great album

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11 hours ago, Rovim said:

I have no idea what's going on in the mind of Axl Rose, but I think his intention is to release a Gn'R album that will fulfill certain criteria and I'm guessing those are:

1. the music and the lyrics should evolve in some way compared to previous Gn'R records (something Richard has alluded to recently)

2. the album can't be just another hard rock album without making any kind of meaningful (to Axl at least) musical statement, it should work as a complete piece, so every tune in it should play a part in forming a cohesive product. (Axl talked about looking at it like a painting in the past, every detail must fit or something to that effect)

3. maybe he wants it to be regarded as an important continuation in the Gn'R catalog, and to promote it in a big way with a huge tour so it has the best chance in succeeding commercially as much as possible but as always, it's only speculation.

I can see him thinking in this, he definitely talks like he thinks of gnr in terms of legacy rather than year to year. He doesn't want to just put things out to fill a space... which he has proven with epic waits and a tiny catalogue of music 😄 

Look, if he releases something I enjoy as much as CD then however long it takes so be it... like I said, I'm not waiting but I'm happy to listen to it when it arrives! 

 

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