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1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

It would be a bit of a mess. 

Best bet without hearing everything... is to just collect the best 12 songs new or old and release 1 great album.

2 albums would probably contain about 14 great songs, and the rest would be good, ok or bad... they really should be focussing on the best album rather than how many songs they can get out at once.

I would love to hear the chinese era songs that were ready in 2014, but I think at the best you're looking at some sort of 20th anniversary of CD where they release it and select bonus tracks. I don't think he'll ever complete his Chinese democracy release plan now.

That's the thing. There's a mix of cd2 with ashba that was probably ready to go in 2010 onwards. A weird thought. 

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Remember, CD2 is not "leftovers" or tracks too weak for CD, it is simply the second part of CD. The locker leaks gave us a good glimpse of that with a few songs.

In 2006 Axl said they had 2.5 albums worth of material.

In 2014 he said they have a CD remix album, and the followup to CD recorded.

We recorded a lot of things before Chinese was out. We’ve worked more on some of those things and we’ve written a few new things. But basically, we have what I call kind of the second half of Chinese. That’s already recorded. And then we have a remix album made of the songs from Chinese. That’s been done for a while, too. - Axl Rose

Source: https://www.stereogum.com/1685104/axl-rose-announces-chinese-democracy-sequel-remix-album/news/

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5 hours ago, Rovim said:

to some musicians if it's not great, it's mediocre and to release just a pretty good album is not their goal. To artistically revisit the same shit they've explored before is maybe not something Axl is interested in doing cause maybe there's no value in that for him? to repeat himself.

He repeats himself every day since 12 fucking years by releasing nothing. He probably will until the end of his life.

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17 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

He repeats himself every day since 12 fucking years by releasing nothing. He probably will until the end of his life.

Slash can do a lot. Let's see if Axl takes advantage of his and Duff's talent and chemistry in Gn'R. There's still time to release a final album with the 3 of them. I think it's how it should end and I believe that with Slash, Axl will go for it.

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5 hours ago, Ralphelmo said:

Myles is not busy with Alter Bridge, tour is being re-scheduled, they released an album not that long ago. His solo record is done, he'll be touring it. Mark Tremonti is going solo aswell. SMKC is in the works.

Do you mean they're working on recording? This would be the perfect time to do that.

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8 hours ago, jamillos said:

You can’t in all seriousness claim to know such things. People confuse stuff that hasn’t been released with stuff that doesn’t exist. I mean, we have 2003, 2004, 2005 (three years in a row), 2008, 2009, then 2014, 2015, half of 2018, most of 2019, and 2020. Do you seriously think he didn’t write/compose anything in all those years? Even if he’s written just 10 decent things recently, he can still use stuff from those "shitloads" he has from the CD era or whatever. 

We take things out of context. I wouldn’t expect him to write much material while on a tour, he’s more like getting a BJ in a pool with a drink in one hand and a cigar in the other (I’d imagine). And we don’t know whether they didn’t plan on starting something new live this year – there surely were hints (sure, could have been just some TB bullshit), but with the C-virus (RE, anyone?) shit happening now, we’ll probably never know. 

I do believe Axl has tons of lyrics in his drawer and tons of music in his studio. The question is not whether they have something – we know they do for sure (Slash, Duff) – but when will we hear it. Even if he wrote just a few songs during the last few years, just couple it with CD II tunes, and we have a full record. Or do you think Slash would contribute to an album of some shitty leftovers? That’s not his style, and it’s not Axl’s style either. 
The trouble is, it’s downtime for now... And yeah, they’re not exactly online-release people, are they. 

I used to think it was true, and pretty obvious, until the locker leaks proved there's more. The only other hint was the publishing deal the band signed with...I want to say Sanctuary? It sold the copyright on 50 new unreleased songs, before Chinese Democracy was released. So they must exist.

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46 minutes ago, SOH said:

I used to think it was true, and pretty obvious, until the locker leaks proved there's more. The only other hint was the publishing deal the band signed with...I want to say Sanctuary? It sold the copyright on 50 new unreleased songs, before Chinese Democracy was released. So they must exist.

Say what now? Not saying I don't believe you, but is there any proof of this? I seem to recall the publishing deal but not that part of it.

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3 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Do you mean they're working on recording? This would be the perfect time to do that.

I agree. But didnt slash say in the most recent interview that he is completely focused on doing Guns stuff at the moment?.

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2 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

I agree. But didnt slash say in the most recent interview that he is completely focused on doing Guns stuff at the moment?.

He said they were doing GnR stuff but we thought that he could be doing other stuff too. His response left that as a possibility.

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3 hours ago, DTV88 said:

Say what now? Not saying I don't believe you, but is there any proof of this? I seem to recall the publishing deal but not that part of it.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-catalog-to-generate-100-million-for-sanctuary/

This says "All future material" but I definitely remember something at the time from a news source that mentioned around 50 songs. 

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9 hours ago, Rovim said:

Slash can do a lot. Let's see if Axl takes advantage of his and Duff's talent and chemistry in Gn'R. There's still time to release a final album with the 3 of them. I think it's how it should end and I believe that with Slash, Axl will go for it.

I  don't know man... I really hope so but at the end of the day it depends all on Axl. Slash and Duff can record or re-record all they want. It's Axl who has to lay down his vocals and we know it's him who has to be satisfied with the whole thing. The Illusions lasted a while. With CD it took him years. I don't know if Slash and Duff are enough of a reason for Axl to find his creativity and his determination again.

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2 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

He said they were doing GnR stuff but we thought that he could be doing other stuff too. His response left that as a possibility.

If SMKC is in the works right now then there are two possibilities IMO. Either Slash finished his work on a new GNR album completely and Axl's working on final touches for the record or there won't be no new record ever again with Axl and Slash.

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13 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Do you mean they're working on recording? This would be the perfect time to do that.

If GNR aren't actually making proper efforts to make a record, there's no way Slash is at home twiddling his thumbs. GNR either finish their record or he goes and starts sending ideas to Myles. Realistically SMKC won't be able to tour properly until 2022 though, so I can't see Slash being in a mad rush just to release something! great time for an EP though! 

Again, this all depends on if Slash thinks GNR are or are not close to completing or at least "very seriously looking at" the new record. While GNR continue to say absolutely nothing concrete about anything, it's hard to call... but Susan (as strange as it is to say) has been the bringer of good news before, so I'm inclined to believe they are working on music... like I've said a thousand times, the release is another question altogether!!

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The one thing that gives me hope for GNR being Slash’s focus is that Myles Kennedy’s next project is more solo material that he’ll want to tour. That as well as Alter Bridge’s tour being unfinished business doesn’t leave much room for SMKC and implies that Slash will be committed elsewhere for a long while.

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52 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

If GNR aren't actually making proper efforts to make a record, there's no way Slash is at home twiddling his thumbs. GNR either finish their record or he goes and starts sending ideas to Myles. Realistically SMKC won't be able to tour properly until 2022 though, so I can't see Slash being in a mad rush just to release something! great time for an EP though! 

Again, this all depends on if Slash thinks GNR are or are not close to completing or at least "very seriously looking at" the new record. While GNR continue to say absolutely nothing concrete about anything, it's hard to call... but Susan (as strange as it is to say) has been the bringer of good news before, so I'm inclined to believe they are working on music... like I've said a thousand times, the release is another question altogether!!

Slash did say he is focusing on Gn'R material right now. So he is mainly working on ideas that are meant to be used in Gn'R? I believe Susan and Slash so I think Slash jammed with Axl and also jammed with Duff cause they're trying to see what works. So maybe not close to completion, but finally at the stage of having the time and motivation to concentrate on composing and matching old and new ideas.

I think this is where it's taking shape. Axl does have a good instinct to kinda tell which ideas got great potential and which tunes can be key moments on an album, or a main part of his musical vision. (like how he recognized the potential of what became Fall To Pieces) and for Chinese they've worked with a quality list (aaa tunes, aa, a) so the approach could be the same this time as well.

as for releasing it, I agree that it's different but maybe if it ticks all the boxes musically, and lyrically, then he'll let go of it with the help of Slash and Duff and they would choose a way to release it. Still a long road ahead imo, but the inability to tour could lead to an even more prolific Slash and a greater chance of Axl liking at least some ideas enough to use.

 

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I remind you guys that Living The Dream was basically done in two weeks. Keep that in mind. Slash gathers different ideas for GNR and SMKC, working on one album doesn't rule out working on the other one ;) As far as I know the process started in 2019 and if I had to guess I'd say that songs are written from the bottom to the top, by each member of SMKC. 

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6 hours ago, Rovim said:

Slash did say he is focusing on Gn'R material right now. So he is mainly working on ideas that are meant to be used in Gn'R? I believe Susan and Slash so I think Slash jammed with Axl and also jammed with Duff cause they're trying to see what works. So maybe not close to completion, but finally at the stage of having the time and motivation to concentrate on composing and matching old and new ideas.

I think this is where it's taking shape. Axl does have a good instinct to kinda tell which ideas got great potential and which tunes can be key moments on an album, or a main part of his musical vision. (like how he recognized the potential of what became Fall To Pieces) and for Chinese they've worked with a quality list (aaa tunes, aa, a) so the approach could be the same this time as well.

as for releasing it, I agree that it's different but maybe if it ticks all the boxes musically, and lyrically, then he'll let go of it with the help of Slash and Duff and they would choose a way to release it. Still a long road ahead imo, but the inability to tour could lead to an even more prolific Slash and a greater chance of Axl liking at least some ideas enough to use.

 

I think he'll feel less pressure releasing this next record now that he has two other buddies with their heads on blocks beside him. I think he'll be just as collaborative as he was during the CD sessions.  

Let's remain cautiously optimistic for the end of the year or start of next, after that we can collectively give up😄

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1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

I think he'll feel less pressure releasing this next record now that he has two other buddies with their heads on blocks beside him. I think he'll be just as collaborative as he was during the CD sessions.  

Let's remain cautiously optimistic for the end of the year or start of next, after that we can collectively give up😄

Its not gonna be released until they tour again..so you are looking at late next summer....and if the Americans continue to not treat Covid seriously... well ....we are going to be waiting longer than that

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