The "New Album" Thread - Susan McKagan says album is coming

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6 hours ago, Nightrain7 said:

Ive always thought there was a vocal error in Madagascar just before the speech/solo. Axl "we held together- ah' it seems he goes to sing as it would be in the live version, but gets cut off- live version  'we held together aaaah oooohhh'. You hear a slight 'ah' in the studio version then it goes. 

Or maybe I'm just hearing the live version in my head when i listen haha. 

The vocals recorded in that song clearly were never meant to be on the final version. This is most notable on the very first few words of that song (I won’t be told anymore). They’re pretty obviously an error, or just wrongly-performed. The rhythm is completely different to how it’s actually supposed to be sung. I’m still convinced it’s the first time he ever sang it, for demo purposes, and he just never decided to do a final take.

Edited August 4, 2020 by Tyler Drama

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8 hours ago, UseYourDemocracyIII said:

Nothing makes my Tuesday like checking in on the mygnr forum after a few weeks to see the musical progression from 'absolutely nothing' to 'fuck all'  

In that case, there's plenty more exciting and fulfilling Tuesdays ahead for you! 

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4 hours ago, Tyler Drama said:

The vocals recorded in that song clearly were never meant to be on the final version. This is most notable on the very first few words of that song (I won’t be told anymore). They’re pretty obviously an error, or just wrongly-performed. The rhythm is completely different to how it’s actually supposed to be sung. I’m still convinced it’s the first time he ever sang it, for demo purposes, and he just never decided to do a final take.

Perhaps, but they are far from scratch vocals like we hear in State Of Grace and Quick Song.

It's possible those issues noted were not caught, I've read on here Scraped has an editing error.

I believe CD was rushed when it came out in 2008 (as weird as that sounds) as the booklet was a draft, etc. I also feel it was mastered well, but the bass seems too low but that may have been from the mixing stage. Or my equipment is trash.

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Is anyone surprised Axl got sucked into a parasitic cult family?

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13 hours ago, Nightrain7 said:

Ive always thought there was a vocal error in Madagascar just before the speech/solo. Axl "we held together- ah' it seems he goes to sing as it would be in the live version, but gets cut off- live version  'we held together aaaah oooohhh'. You hear a slight 'ah' in the studio version then it goes. 

Or maybe I'm just hearing the live version in my head when i listen haha. 

I think you're actually hearing the first note of the guitar riff? I can't hear this "ah" you mentioned. 

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

I believe CD was rushed when it came out in 2008 (as weird as that sounds) as the booklet was a draft, etc. I also feel it was mastered well, but the bass seems too low but that may have been from the mixing stage. Or my equipment is trash.

I agree 100% that the album was rushed in its final format. It could be just a "fuck this" mentality because Axl didn't really wanted to release it? 

Seems to me that the 2002/03 version would sound way more finished than what it came to be. The Village demos are somewhat proof: those songs lacks proper mixing and mastering, but they are well thought and realized products already. 

The 2008 CD was a mess in its sonic signature, especially the lack of Tommy's bass, like you said. We know they didn't let the songs breath, but rather just add another several layers in.

This fucked up the arrangement big time. Bumblefoot's guitar were also rushed IMO, and there's no real reason to have a lot of his added rhythm guitars in songs like Street of Dreams. In Riad, it's not that his work is bad, but I can't stand how they went to put his rhythm guitar on the right channel almost alone and at least three other guitar layers all squeezed together in the left channel. To me, it sounds like this wasn't really well thought, it doesn't match the original idea - to have this huge emphasis on the drums and guitar riff - of the song and underpowered it. 

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Not sure if this has been discussed here yet, but when someone asked “what songs would you like the band to play live that they haven’t yet?” he answered “some of the new ones” lol!

that alone tells me that it’s not TB holding up a new album. It’s Axl, and only Axl.

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5 hours ago, Tyler Drama said:

The vocals recorded in that song clearly were never meant to be on the final version. This is most notable on the very first few words of that song (I won’t be told anymore). They’re pretty obviously an error, or just wrongly-performed. The rhythm is completely different to how it’s actually supposed to be sung. I’m still convinced it’s the first time he ever sang it, for demo purposes, and he just never decided to do a final take.

I see no problem with the first line, it's just a different rythmic approach which to my ears suits the song very well.

How can we know "how it's actually supposed to be sung"? 

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5 minutes ago, BreakDown2014 said:

I see no problem with the first line, it's just a different rythmic approach which to my ears suits the song very well.

How can we know "how it's actually supposed to be sung"? 

agreed, the difference between the live versions of the song and the studio version doesn't necessarily mean the studio version was sung "wrong". In Scraped for example, it's definitely a mistake where in Madagascar it sounds like it could've been an artistic choice.

Edited August 4, 2020 by Rovim

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20 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet, but when someone asked “what songs would you like the band to play live that they haven’t yet?” he answered “some of the new ones” lol!

that alone tells me that it’s not TB holding up a new album. It’s Axl, and only Axl.

Where was that?

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And who is"he"?

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5 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Where was that?

 

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5 minutes ago, EricA said:

 

That's a tease. 

Seems like he's not really familiar with how numbers work.

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30 minutes ago, EricA said:

 

The "days off", when he's not busy counting Axl's money.

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53 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Where was that?

Reddit

51 minutes ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

And who is"he"?

Fernando

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1 hour ago, Rovim said:

agreed, the difference between the live versions of the song and the studio version doesn't necessarily mean the studio version was sung "wrong". In Scraped for example, it's definitely a mistake where in Madagascar it sounds like it could've been an artistic choice.

Fine

 

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On 8/3/2020 at 10:50 AM, rocknroll41 said:

You’d think Axl would care about that sorta thing, but I guess not lol.

It seems by the time 2008 rolled around he didn't really care about anything ChiDem related

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14 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

It seems by the time 2008 rolled around he didn't really care about anything ChiDem related

Yeah even the release of ChiDem itself was a total fluke thanks to the likes of Dr Pepper, Irving Azoff, and Best Buy. Had it not been for those parties, cd1 still would not be out yet (let alone cd2).

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11 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Yeah even the release of ChiDem itself was a total fluke thanks to the likes of Dr Pepper, Irving Azoff, and Best Buy. Had it not been for those parties, cd1 still would not be out yet (let alone cd2).

The locker leaks would have been even cooler in a 2019 where CD hadn't been released yet.

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47 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

It seems by the time 2008 rolled around he didn't really care about anything ChiDem related

There comes a point where what was your vision has been taken over by so many others it's no longer something you are passionate about.  Take away the passion from the creator and it's something they are just a part of if you know what I mean.

I always wonder how much control the label has over GNR?  We blame Axl and management when things don't happen but I don't think they are as free and in control of what they do that we attribute to them.

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Now they could easily get out of any label stuff for sure if they wanted to. Plus, any label would love to put out a new GnR album feat. Slash, regardless how good/ commercial the music is. 

The label is not the reason nothing ever happens.

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4 hours ago, EricA said:

 

I asked these questions, nothing we didn't already know but nice to hear what Fernando thinks about Izzy 

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5 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet, but when someone asked “what songs would you like the band to play live that they haven’t yet?” he answered “some of the new ones” lol!

that alone tells me that it’s not TB holding up a new album. It’s Axl, and only Axl.

Imo there was never any doubt that only Axl blocks a future release.

Sure TB don't help by not pushing him to release anything but if he wanted to he would.

We know there are countless songs already recorded (plus instrumentals and anything they've done since 2016).

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1 hour ago, SAU3R said:

I asked these questions, nothing we didn't already know but nice to hear what Fernando thinks about Izzy 

So irrelevant what fernandon't thinks of Izzy. Izzy probably doesn't even know who that toddler is