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26 minutes ago, Nesret said:

Oh my God, I had a dream last night. I was in a room and Fernando communicated with me over some speakers. Each time I asked him if there will be a new album, he told me to move on, so I did. I moved on into the next room each time he said it. But here it is, guys: the last room didn't have any doors. Obviously that's a sign and I'm incredibly excited to announce this here.

If the last room right have any doors then how did you get in?

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It's clearly going to be announced in a few days (or just after the holidays), along with the first single.

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3 hours ago, Nesret said:

Oh my God, I had a dream last night. I was in a room and Fernando communicated with me over some speakers. Each time I asked him if there will be a new album, he told me to move on, so I did. I moved on into the next room each time he said it. But here it is, guys: the last room didn't have any doors. Obviously that's a sign and I'm incredibly excited to announce this here.

Sounds like a Saw trap for GNR fans 🤣

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10 hours ago, Nesret said:

Oh my God, I had a dream last night. I was in a room and Fernando communicated with me over some speakers. Each time I asked him if there will be a new album, he told me to move on, so I did. I moved on into the next room each time he said it. But here it is, guys: the last room didn't have any doors. Obviously that's a sign and I'm incredibly excited to announce this here.

It didn't have any Doors but did it have any Zeppelin? :P

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This is an interesting interview with the Spotify CEO. (https://www.nme.com/news/music/spotify-ceo-says-its-not-enough-for-artists-to-release-albums-every-3-4-years-2719272)

"“You can’t record music once every three to four years and think that’s going to be enough. The artists today that are making it realise that it’s about creating a continuous engagement with their fans. It is about putting the work in, about the storytelling around the album, and about keeping a continuous dialogue with your fans.”

Or a lost less frequently if you're Guns N' Roses.  As much as I can understand and appreciate the time and effort that bands like Tool and Guns N' Roses take to make albums - in an era of everyday streaming and "special edition CD" purchases for the die hards, I can see how that mindset might need to change.  The quote (and larger article) seems more and more accurate.  Or not, it's rock n' roll.

Hopefully it's not just a new album, but "continuous engagement."  Might as well retool the tracks available, add some new ones, drag it out with archive video/audio releases (see Rolling Stones or Metallica) - rinse and repeat for as long as they want to be considered an "active" band.  

For my money, the release of Taylor Swift's "folklore" is as successful launch and marketing as can be done in the modern era.

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People write music in ways that they know/hope will appeal to the spotify playlist generation algorithms. So the CEO and the algorithms essentially pressure songwriters into selecting types of rhythms to get on like a 'chill out' playlist. And they are pressured to sing about BBQing to get on 'pool party' playlists. Producers observe what synths are favoured by the algorithms and put it on everything. Its not good.

Similar thing happening on Tic Tok too. Artists are able to observe and anticipate what rhythms and themes will go viral. So theres artists who dont follow their muse, they follow Tic Toks muse.

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1 hour ago, soon said:

People write music in ways that they know/hope will appeal to the spotify playlist generation algorithms. So the CEO and the algorithms essentially pressure songwriters into selecting types of rhythms to get on like a 'chill out' playlist. And they are pressured to sing about BBQing to get on 'pool party' playlists. Producers observe what synths are favoured by the algorithms and put it on everything. Its not good.

Similar thing happening on Tic Tok too. Artists are able to observe and anticipate what rhythms and themes will go viral. So theres artists who dont follow their muse, they follow Tic Toks muse.

That's perverted. And every "artist" who plays along with that can fuck off as well.

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7 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

That's perverted. And every "artist" who plays along with that can fuck off as well.

I certainly agree with this sentiment.

Id add that fans who play along with Spotifys model can fuck off as well. By that I mean if people never go off-app to support artists they like on Spotify by buying their work at Band Camp or whatever. If fans dont support artists, especially new ones, the artists only chance for revenue is by writing for the algorithms. In theory the artists only need to do that sometimes if they have any success for the algorithms to then start also presenting their wider catalogue more frequently. But it quickly becomes the main grind for some artists. Soon it will be AI wiring for AI if fans dont step up! 

 

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37 minutes ago, soon said:

I certainly agree with this sentiment.

Id add that fans who play along with Spotifys model can fuck off as well. By that I mean if people never go off-app to support artists they like on Spotify by buying their work at Band Camp or whatever. If fans dont support artists, especially new ones, the artists only chance for revenue is by writing for the algorithms. In theory the artists only need to do that sometimes if they have any success for the algorithms to then start also presenting their wider catalogue more frequently. But it quickly becomes the main grind for some artists. Soon it will be AI wiring for AI if fans dont step up! 

 

If you can't put your hand in your pocket and spend a few pounds/dollars on something an artist has spent a lot of time and money on to support them to do the same in the future then it's a sorry state of affairs. 

Some people seem happy to spend more on a damn coffee than music. 

 

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It’s totally a generational thing - people of a certain age know the value of music whereas I’d argue the majority of the younger population don’t (not all - there is always an exception to the ’rule‘).

I always make a point of buying stuff I like by my favourite artists - lots of us do but not everyone. I just wish there was more stuff of one of my favourite bands to buy...... 

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On 27/08/2020 at 9:26 AM, allwaystired said:

He's a total prick. I agree with every musician here: https://www.nme.com/news/music/musicians-criticise-spotify-ceo-album-release-comments-2719827

"Work harder to make me more money". Spotify fuck over artists, so fuck them. I wish artists would boycott them....but with no viable alternative they're stuck. All I can do as a fan is never use it. 

But, yeah, absolutely Taylor Swift is the benchmark for how to release a new album..... especially in the pandemic. It sold great even though she couldn't tour to promote to it. And 'shock, horror' shitloads of people bought physical copies! 

Is the point of Guns N' Roses not meant to be that they're as unconventional as they come? Sure, it'd be fun if they'd released a new album every 4 years for the last 30 years but there's something to be said for maintaining quality over quantity. If they don't have genuinely great music to release I'd probably rather they didn't. Part of the fun of this band is the mythology associated with the "what if" element of the band.

Since 2016 I've managed to see them 4 times in various places around the US. I'm grateful for that and if that's all I ever get again then, to me, they'll live and die as the best rock band ever.

I'm so comfortable with them not releasing a "has been" album these days.

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On 8/23/2020 at 9:14 PM, allwaystired said:

I doubt it. He didn't seem bothered by the last one, and Slash doing a world tour! 

 

But was that in the middle of Guns N' Roses supposedly working on a new album? I can't remember?

The dissapointing years all just get mixed up together for me these days, my timeline of being a GnR fan is just one very long winding road of saddness and dissapointment!

:P

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On 8/30/2020 at 10:43 PM, UseYourDemocracyIII said:

Man, even if they did an AFD5 reunion next week, Izzy would be gone again by Christmas. I don't care if the new album sounds like a Mariah Carey Easter LP, I just want them to work on something. 

they could sing happy birthday 12 different ways, and I would take it 

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6 minutes ago, ThePreacher said:

Just think how time flies. Soon we can celebrate one year anniversary of Fernando saying: "Within six months"

I want a new GNR record more than anything else but this statement by Fernando never got me excited. Even without Covid there wouldn't be a new album out by now.

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1 hour ago, Free Bird said:

I want a new GNR record more than anything else but this statement by Fernando never got me excited. Even without Covid there wouldn't be a new album out by now.

I'm 100% of the view that Covid has nothing to do with the lack of new material in any way, shape or form.

It will be interesting to see what people say though when/if touring starts again and there is no new material........

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GNR in 2022: Our new album consists exclusively of Nickelback cover songs and we got DJ Ashba back on board. The box-set comes with an exclusive remix of the smash-hit "Scraped".

Fan: I'LL TAKE IT GODAMNIT!

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