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1 hour ago, jamillos said:

I meant Locked n Loaded. Guys say UMG completely runs that too. I didn't know that - thought it was the band's/TB's initiative

First mistake thinking TB take initiative🤣 2nd mistake thinking GNR do too🤣

If it was up to Axl I'm sure he'd like to do some of that stuff! but in reality he would never finish it! he would probably start mixing everything, and then re-record everything! 

I think it's best the label runs the ship, so the band has zero excuses like "Our focus was on the remastered anniversary project"... their focus 'should' be on a new record. With bands with members located all around the world currently managing to either get together in person or record remotely GNR should in theory be able to get the finger out too, with all the resources they have available, pandemic or not! 

 

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11 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Price is so critical regarding how a UYI reissue would be received. Really, the AFD super deluxe (4 disc+ blu ray) should never have been more than $50 from the start - i.e. the price it is now being sold for on the official site. That is was more than triple that on release helped the general idea that it wasn't worth bothering with. The Locked and Loaded was always going to be a tough sell at that insane price, so as you say, hopefully pricing will be a big consideration in the future. I fear it won't be though......but many people will know now not to get their fingers burned by buying straight away if not and wait until it falls to a quarter (or less) of it's starting price in a very short space of time.  

 

If I remember, @troccolialluded to the fact that the company wanted to make sure they listened to what he fans want....that itself might not translate to a better price but a simple look at the sales figures/MI will show they completely missed the target. I’d be amazed if they made the same mistake.

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Just thinking....see if Geffen/UMG etc have an option on another album (common thought was there was one more) how much power can the company wield to get it?

We all know about Chinese and how no-one could get it released for years/the record company were still willing to throw money at it....however that whole saga is a ‘one in a million’ case and we would never see a case like that again.

Could they legally force the/a album out if even to finish the contract?

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41 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Just thinking....see if Geffen/UMG etc have an option on another album (common thought was there was one more) how much power can the company wield to get it?

We all know about Chinese and how no-one could get it released for years/the record company were still willing to throw money at it....however that whole saga is a ‘one in a million’ case and we would never see a case like that again.

Could they legally force the/a album out if even to finish the contract?

I'm not sure they could legally force it, and if they did try there's no way we'd ever hear anything GNR related again - outside of them suing and leaving the company with their recorded work! I think the band would take them to court and they would remain in court for years... in which time they could tour but that's about the sum of it! although, I guess they could do leak the record, think they know a thing or two about that!

Axl might be the 'chill Axl' now, but put into a corner and told 'Do it now!!' the old dog with come out again, especially now with Duff and Slash at his side. 

I think UMG would love a new GNR record for a sales bump (in whatever year it appears), but I think they are happy to wait... which is a good thing for all involved😄

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18 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

I'm not sure they could legally force it, and if they did try there's no way we'd ever hear anything GNR related again - outside of them suing and leaving the company with their recorded work! I think the band would take them to court and they would remain in court for years... in which time they could tour but that's about the sum of it! although, I guess they could do leak the record, think they know a thing or two about that!

Axl might be the 'chill Axl' now, but put into a corner and told 'Do it now!!' the old dog with come out again, especially now with Duff and Slash at his side. 

I think UMG would love a new GNR record for a sales bump (in whatever year it appears), but I think they are happy to wait... which is a good thing for all involved😄

True. Maybe legally force is a bit extreme....but perhaps a decent bargaining tool....”if you give us an album then he deal is done and you can go and do whatever you like after” is maybe more realistic. I suppose they would already know this.....and there still hasn’t been anything primed for immediate release. I guess it could also be related to the terms of the contract which would be a fairly archaic one if it dates back to 80’s.

Just a random musing 😂

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I've said it before: I think GNR are in a position where no one can force them to do anything. Should there be any problem with any company, they could always bail out of any old agreement, pay a few million bucks and be off the hook. They made half a billion in the recent few years, let's not forget that. No quarter of a century old contract can hold them back or push them forward if they decide to erase it from their lives. 

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38 minutes ago, jamillos said:

I've said it before: I think GNR are in a position where no one can force them to do anything. Should there be any problem with any company, they could always bail out of any old agreement, pay a few million bucks and be off the hook. They made half a billion in the recent few years, let's not forget that. No quarter of a century old contract can hold them back or push them forward if they decide to erase it from their lives. 

True. But all that NITL money doesn't go direct to their bank accounts, millions and millions goes to legal fees, touring fees (crew, travel, insurance, marketing and advertising, promoters, live nation)... so yes, they are all individually minted! but not as rich as if they took all those millions for themselves. Buying out of their contract would still be a hefty fee and a big headache and IF it is just one LP left then it's not worth it! 

Judging from what Axl has said publicly he has thought of GNR being an independent group, but obviously he stays with UMG because he doesn't to deal with any potential lawsuit or headache for trying to bail out on their agreement. 

100% agree that no label could force GnR/Axl to do anything though, only people I think that might be able to sway him is TB... and they have no vested interest in giving him no old tomatoes!

 

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55 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

True. Maybe legally force is a bit extreme....but perhaps a decent bargaining tool....”if you give us an album then he deal is done and you can go and do whatever you like after” is maybe more realistic. I suppose they would already know this.....and there still hasn’t been anything primed for immediate release. I guess it could also be related to the terms of the contract which would be a fairly archaic one if it dates back to 80’s.

Just a random musing 😂

Yeah, next time Niven is interviewed i'd love for him to clear up exactly how many records are left over. I think the reason they split UYI into to two releases was to knock a chunk out of the contracted amount of albums.

Anyway, we're aways way from new material, so get comfy!

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2 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

True. But all that NITL money doesn't go direct to their bank accounts, millions and millions goes to legal fees, touring fees (crew, travel, insurance, marketing and advertising, promoters, live nation)... so yes, they are all individually minted! but not as rich as if they took all those millions for themselves. Buying out of their contract would still be a hefty fee and a big headache and IF it is just one LP left then it's not worth it! 

Judging from what Axl has said publicly he has thought of GNR being an independent group, but obviously he stays with UMG because he doesn't to deal with any potential lawsuit or headache for trying to bail out on their agreement. 

100% agree that no label could force GnR/Axl to do anything though, only people I think that might be able to sway him is TB... and they have no vested interest in giving him no old tomatoes!

 

 

So they only made $100 Million each instead of $150 Million? My heart bleeds for them. :lol:

But yea, it's been clear for many years now that UMG won't be prying any material away from Axl until he decides to release it. I doubt even TB would be able to sway him.

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On 9/13/2020 at 3:49 PM, smokingarthur said:

I disagree with this statement. By “they”, you must omit the traveling circus as well as Duff and Slash. There’s nothing holding back the release of new music, this entirely falls on one Axl Rose. 

I can't argue with that..  Slash and Duff sold their soul and screwed over old friends for this crap....

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4 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

Yeah, next time Niven is interviewed i'd love for him to clear up exactly how many records are left over. I think the reason they split UYI into to two releases was to knock a chunk out of the contracted amount of albums.

Anyway, we're aways way from new material, so get comfy!

Ha ha - yeah, hope for something sooner.........but expect something to get released later.

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14 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

 

Albeit there must be some band involvement as with the AFD sets Axls personal photos were included?

Yes

12 hours ago, jamillos said:

 

So Universal releases this stuff without even having to ask the band for permission? That sucks, man. 

Edit: Then again, maybe we otherwise wouldn't have gotten anything at all in the last 4 years...

Well they do technically own the masters and all that.

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13 hours ago, jamillos said:

I meant Locked n Loaded. Guys say UMG completely runs that too. I didn't know that - thought it was the band's/TB's initiative. 

Nah, I don’t think band cared much about it. 

5 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

I can't argue with that..  Slash and Duff sold their soul and screwed over old friends for this crap....

What old friends? 

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19 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

I could really use the 2010 album leaking right about now...

Even just a few new songs so we can create our own new GNR album would do just fine.

  1. Hardschool 
  2. Atlas Shrugged
  3. Me & My Elvis (with vocals)
  4. Perhaps
  5. Zodiac (with vocals)
  6. State Of Grace
  7. Oklahoma (with vocals)
  8. Eye On You (with even more MacDaddy)
  9. Cuban Skies
  10. The General

 

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19 minutes ago, jackparker123 said:

Even just a few new songs so we can create our own new GNR album would do just fine.

  1. Hardschool 
  2. Atlas Shrugged
  3. Me & My Elvis (with vocals)
  4. Perhaps
  5. Zodiac (with vocals)
  6. State Of Grace
  7. Oklahoma (with vocals)
  8. Eye On You (with even more MacDaddy)
  9. Cuban Skies
  10. The General

 

I suppose you could include the Bumble reworked or 1999/2000 Silkworms, and reworked OMG though mixed odd. Going Down with Axl backing vocals too, but that's a stretch. 

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35 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Yup. Were the DJ solos from the 2010 sessions (mi Amor etc)?

My assumption is they were done around that time.

6 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

They were just things he did in his own studio, like his Better remix.

Everything instrumental sounds different in that Better remix, I'm assuming it was an effort by the band. The vocals are the same take, just edited from the original.

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