jamillos 1,637 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 11 hours ago, smokingarthur said: You think Fernando doesn’t get it? What’s he supposed to do? What’s anyone to do? Axl just “isn’t ready”. Fernando tries to lie to himself to accept the bizarre circumstances, but he knows he’s lying to himself. He’s essentially living off the leavings of Axl, he had to respect his space and he must do his bidding. Doesn't justify his shitty way with fans, not a bit. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,233 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 The forum seems.to be showing me adverts for life insurance and retirement plans today. How appropriate. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ronartest2004 59 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, gavgnr said: Well said. Sums the situation up nicely. Fernando the ‘manager’ of Guns N’ Roses has no real input in regards to new music. Just like us, he’s waiting for Uncle Axl to decide when the time is right for new music. Unfortunately for all of us, Axl was reticent to release music as a younger man. I fear that now he’s gotten older and is staring down the barrel of 60, he may be even more obstinate. At this point I genuinely suspect there might not ever be a new record. It’s just so fuckin’ easy for the band to keep making money off its past successes. I was told that the some of the original leaks (early 2000s) were traced back to Fernando, I always thought Fernando/TB thought some of the songs were great and ready to release but Axl didn’t feel the same way. I think that Fernando took things in his own hands and leaked some of the tracks to try to motivate axl to do a proper release of an album, but of course Axl didn’t appreciate that approach once it was traced back to Fernando. I think Axl has everyone where he wants them- the band- keep your mouths shut about gnr related items and you’ll keep getting paid. Fernando/TB- don’t try to pressure me to do anything I don’t agree with or you’ll find yourselves on the outside looking in. Axl is the end all be all of new music being released. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePreacher 199 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) Year passes on. A rock n roll band hasn't figured out how to release new music for the public. Yet "top scientists" has now figured out how to make safe and a working vaccine for COVID. It really is "ROCKET SCIENCE", putting out a song or a two I mean.... Edited October 24 by ThePreacher 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Majestic Beast 90 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 AC/DC to release new album,Judas Priest already writing new stuff....only in the world of Axl Rose and GnR there are always unexpected delays for any kind of reasons nobody can explain. The best leaking protection from the other hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamGirl 361 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 If they are not going to release anything I wish they would say and end all this frustrating specullation. It has decided that the touring of arenas will not happen until next fall/autumn maybe not until 2022, there is so much to deal with from insurance, mass cleaning etc it is going to be very expensive for bands, I wonder if, as a conseuence,, they decide to call it a day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokingarthur 118 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 1 hour ago, DurhamGirl said: If they are not going to release anything I wish they would say and end all this frustrating specullation. It has decided that the touring of arenas will not happen until next fall/autumn maybe not until 2022, there is so much to deal with from insurance, mass cleaning etc it is going to be very expensive for bands, I wonder if, as a conseuence,, they decide to call it a day. There’s still too much money to be made for the Appetite For Illusions Of Democracy tour. They’ll come up with some plan to tour at some point in 2021 and have it coincide with a speculative album. Axl will be thinking somewhere in the latter half of 2022. Of course as that date approaches they’ll find another excuse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tyson 48 Posted October 25 Popular Post Share Posted October 25 Can someone please change the title of this thread to the "The NO new album thread?" Thanks 1 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mamundson 15 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/bruce-springsteen-letter-to-you-review-1074811/ a few days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
megaguns1982 629 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 On 10/24/2020 at 11:14 PM, ronartest2004 said: I was told that the some of the original leaks (early 2000s) were traced back to Fernando, I always thought Fernando/TB thought some of the songs were great and ready to release but Axl didn’t feel the same way. I think that Fernando took things in his own hands and leaked some of the tracks to try to motivate axl to do a proper release of an album, but of course Axl didn’t appreciate that approach once it was traced back to Fernando. I think Axl has everyone where he wants them- the band- keep your mouths shut about gnr related items and you’ll keep getting paid. Fernando/TB- don’t try to pressure me to do anything I don’t agree with or you’ll find yourselves on the outside looking in. Axl is the end all be all of new music being released. I agree totally. Here’s my take on it: TB are on the gravy train and are happy to continue while Axl finances their lifestyles. I doubt they give a shit about GnR or Axl for that matter. it’s really sad that the truth is IMO, if Steph seymours baby sitter never came into Axls life, we may have a functioning band who releases music. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Dean 1,984 Posted October 26 Popular Post Share Posted October 26 1 hour ago, megaguns1982 said: I doubt they give a shit about GnR or Axl for that matter. it’s really sad that the truth is IMO, if Steph seymours baby sitter never came into Axls life, we may have a functioning band who releases music. It's only assumption on your part though, we don't know what Axl's life could've been like without a stable family environment surrounding him, especially with the bereavement and the ending of relationships with those that were closest to him throughout the 90's. By all accounts, Axl seemed to find it difficult having a load of money throughout the Illusion era and indulged in anything he wanted to. That could have taken it's toll had he not had a network of support around him, which Beta and co. offered. It's frustrating as fuck not having a regular flow of music from a band/artist that I hold in very high regard, but from the outside looking in and the hurdles that Axl has overcome in his life that we know about, I like the fact that he seems to be winning nowadays. Having a positive environment around you along with mending relationships with those that all played a part in getting each other to where they are just now can only do good things and that is why I'm positive that something will happen sooner rather than later. I don't know what they are due the label in terms of albums, but if they get a big pay day for both themselves and the label if they are only due one more album, then that could open up a lot more possibilities for future releases off of their own label. Fuck knows. I just want new music to dive into and be able to enjoy when they tour in support of it and not always spout the shite I've just done in this post and wondering what could be 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocknroll41 2,318 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 (edited) .. .- — -.. —- -. . .— .- .. - .. -. —. —- -. - .... .. ... -... .- -. -.. ^this is Morse code for “I am done waiting on this band.” Maybe, if we speak in Morse code, they’ll actually listen!! Edited October 26 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweersa 426 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 34 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: .. .- — -.. —- -. . .— .- .. - .. -. —. —- -. - .... .. ... -... .- -. -.. ^this is Morse code for “I am done waiting on this band.” Maybe, if we speak in Morse code, they’ll actually listen!! Most of this forum is full of hardcore GN'R fans. (Obviously) Our opinions really don't matter that much to GN'R camp, I'd imagine. Casual listeners and fans are their target. Most casual listeners and fans probably don't even know who's in the band now. A majority of people who bought or listened to Chinese Democracy probably though Slash was on that album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocknroll41 2,318 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 2 hours ago, Sweersa said: Most of this forum is full of hardcore GN'R fans. (Obviously) Our opinions really don't matter that much to GN'R camp, I'd imagine. Casual listeners and fans are their target. Most casual listeners and fans probably don't even know who's in the band now. A majority of people who bought or listened to Chinese Democracy probably though Slash was on that album. ...Yes, but, if we talk to them maybe they will listen!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old_school_gnr_fan 254 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Didn't you hear? There's a new album hidden inside the pinball machines, all you have to do is 1) buy the pinball machine, and 2) take a sledgehammer to said pinball machine in order to access the new album. It sets you back only a few thousand dollars! What's not to love? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweersa 426 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 5 minutes ago, Old_school_gnr_fan said: Didn't you hear? There's a new album hidden inside the pinball machines, all you have to do is 1) buy the pinball machine, and 2) take a sledgehammer to said pinball machine in order to access the new album. It sets you back only a few thousand dollars! What's not to love? Only a few thousand? Put me on the list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rumandraisin 131 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 10 hours ago, megaguns1982 said: I agree totally. Here’s my take on it: TB are on the gravy train and are happy to continue while Axl finances their lifestyles. I doubt they give a shit about GnR or Axl for that matter. it’s really sad that the truth is IMO, if Steph seymours baby sitter never came into Axls life, we may have a functioning band who releases music. I always wondered whether the 2006 leaks were done on purpose... Axl did say "you will hear new music this year" and he wasn't wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocknroll41 2,318 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 If I recall correctly didn’t the Brazil version of rolling stone mag report last year that the next GnR tour would either be for a new album or a UYI reissue, depending on whichever comes first? Cause if that’s the case, I bet the 2021 shows will be rebranded into “new UYI tour” or some shit. Pretty sure they also said that an afd5 reunion was still possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 915 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 5 hours ago, Old_school_gnr_fan said: Didn't you hear? There's a new album hidden inside the pinball machines, all you have to do is 1) buy the pinball machine, and 2) take a sledgehammer to said pinball machine in order to access the new album. It sets you back only a few thousand dollars! What's not to love? I’ve just sledgehammered my pinball machine.....they must have forgot to put it in....😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GnR Chris 882 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Meegan has some photos and videos in her Instagram story, but the sound is off because she says it's top secret. Also has an emoji covering the monitors. I will assume this is GNR-related, though it probably is not. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweersa 426 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 7 minutes ago, GnR Chris said: Meegan has some photos and videos in her Instagram story, but the sound is off because she says it's top secret. Also has an emoji covering the monitors. I will assume this is GNR-related, though it probably is not. lol Maybe she's drumming up interest for something else, but intentionally so to spark thoughts. Someone smooth DM her! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 915 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 29 minutes ago, Sweersa said: Maybe she's drumming up interest for something else, but intentionally so to spark thoughts. Someone smooth DM her! Well it’s worked 😂 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 915 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 (edited) Interesting article on BBC today which says Taylor Swift is the first artist to sell over a million copies of an album in 2020 in the US. And was the only artist in 2019......I knew physical sales had crumbled but not to that extent?!?! And these have been given a boost already with loads of signed copies being made available. Maybe a slightly different demographic I guess (Swift fans probably consume music via streaming I’d guess) and a properly promoted new GNR album would shift some units (us old folk ‘like to have the music in our hands and read the linear notes’...😂) but the numbers would still be lower than I would have originally thought. Edited October 27 by DTJ80 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siraddam 26 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 The thing is there are lots of demos lying around like 'crash diet' and 'atlas shrugged' that they could finish off in a few months. Then maybe make one new song together and release that as an album. It would be a great album and everyone would be happy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CAFC Nick 334 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 28 minutes ago, siraddam said: The thing is there are lots of demos lying around like 'crash diet' and 'atlas shrugged' that they could finish off in a few months. Then maybe make one new song together and release that as an album. It would be a great album and everyone would be happy. Yeah I still struggle to comprehend how Atlas hasn't seen the light of day yet. This song was recorded before I started senior school and I'm 31 years old now! The demo(s) need a slight bit of retouching but I'm truly staggered this hasn't been officially released in any capacity as we come to the end of 2020. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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