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7 hours ago, 19AT5 said:

Fair play to ya. I went and listened back to those leaked tracks earlier and came to the same conclusion... not my bag, doesn't excited me, not that interesting musically, and certainly not worth waiting for.

As an aside, whilst on topic of Better, I remember hearing the 2006 version of IRS and absolutely fecking loving it! The final album version didn't hit me the same though. Actually disappointed me. I still have that demo somewhere though and it rocks! 

It’d be pretty boring if we all liked he same stuff. 😂

About CD...I reckon only about a quarter of it benefited for being ‘delayed’ - Prostitute being the big case where it’s much better than the Village ones. The rest were all better as they were in early 2000s - the title track is awesome compared to the final version (and I actually really like that one) and is a proper raw rock song.

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I like the idea of being on my death bed, saying "just refresh that page one more time for me....I'm pretty sure that insider was full of shit, but I want to be totally sure....." 

Axl is close to 60 Reunion is now over 4 years old The last unheard new song was played in 2006 The last studio album was in 2008 The last new song before that in 1999 Every s

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14 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

And that’s what makes his place fun to debate this stuff - I thought Perhaps, Atlas and Hardschool were awesome 😂. Zodiac 13 with vocals.....THATS the holy grail for me.

And agreed - Better really should have been a monster hit. Such a good song and one that would easily take its place in a career spanning ‘Best Of’.

Better should have been huge. Axl fucked himself by doing no promotion, not releasing the music video for it etc... Big missed opportunity to ensure CD reached maximum ears and kickstart a new wave of followers for GnR. 

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12 hours ago, 19AT5 said:

1 album since 1994! 1 whole album of original material in nearly 30 years. There is your evidence. To put that into context, Deep Purple have released 7 studios albums in that time, AC/DC 5, The Stones 4, Metallica 6... and Slash himself has released 8. So the evidence is pretty conclusive really. 

It doesn't make sense to compare them to other bands. There have been so many lineup changes. Slash and Duff have been back since 2016 and at first it was only for one or two reunion shows, since then they seem to be taking baby steps to see where they are and how they get along, and that is mostly touring but it seems they are working on new material now. It's not like they've been working together since 1994 and we're still waiting for a new record since then. 

Of course it's disappointing that Axl has released so little music, but it is what it is. There is no rule for a musician to release x amount of records in their career. In 2009 he said to the question when the new album will come out: ''Have no idea and don't care, (.......), if things go well enough, we'd like to get another out at some point in our lifetimes''. At least he's being honest and he's not giving anyone false hope. Another favourite musician of mine always mentions that his new record will come out within a year, and every time he says that, it takes another three years before he drops a new record. That pisses me off more than Axl, who isn't making any promises.

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15 minutes ago, EvanG said:

It doesn't make sense to compare them to other bands. There have been so many lineup changes. Slash and Duff have been back since 2016 and at first it was only for one or two reunion shows, since then they seem to be taking baby steps to see where they are and how they get along, and that is mostly touring and it seems they are working on new material now. It's not like they've been working together since 1994 and we're still waiting for a new record since then. 

Of course it's disappointing that Axl has released so little music, but it is what it is. There is no rule for a musician to release x amount of records in his career. In 2009 he said to the question when the new album will come out: ''Have no idea and don't care, (.......) if things go well enough, we'd like to get another out at some point in our lifetimes''. At least he's being honest and he's not giving anyone false hope. Another favourite musician of mine always mentions that his new record will come out within a year, and every time he says that, it takes another three years before he drops a new record. That pisses me off more than Axl, who isn't making any promises.

Yeah...but he's got his minions to do that. How many times have Fortus, Fernandont etc. teased new stuff during the years..

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3 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

Yeah...but he's got his minions to do that. How many times have Fortus, Fernandont etc. teased new stuff during the years..

I have no idea, I don't really follow them to be honest. Have his ''minions'' ever confirmed a new record within a year or said more than ''we're working on stuff'' type of rhetoric? 

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6 hours ago, Chuzeville said:

Here's something I like to say: Oasis have done all their recording carreer in the time it took GnR between TSI? and CD.

In the time it took GNR to do TSI and CD, Prince made:

Come (1993)

The Gold Experience (1995)

Exodus (1995)

Chaos & Disorder (1996)

Emancipation (1996)

Crystal Ball (1998)

The Truth (1998)

New Power Soul (1998)

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (1999)

The Chocolate Invasion (2000)

The Slaughterhouse (2000)

The Rainbow Children (2001)

One Nite Alone Piano & Vocal (2002)

N.E.W.S. (2002)

Musicology (2004)

3121 (2006)

Planet Earth (2007)

Lotusflow3r (2008)

MPLSoUND (2008)

20Ten (2010)

Art Official Age (2014)

Plectrum Electrum (2014)

HitNRun Phase One (2015)

HitNRun Phase Two (2015)

 

^^ Two of them are triple albums. He also wrote and produced entire albums for Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, Bria Valente and George Clinton. 

His estate has released more music since his death 5 years ago than GNR have put out in their entire career. 

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3 minutes ago, Towelie said:

^ Two of them are triple albums. He also wrote and produced entire albums for Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, Bria Valente and George Clinton. 

His estate has released more music since his death 5 years ago than GNR have put out in their entire career. 

So what's your point? That Axl doesn't release a lot of music? I think pretty much everyone here is well aware of that.

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13 hours ago, 19AT5 said:

1 album since 1994! 1 whole album of original material in nearly 30 years. There is your evidence. To put that into context, Deep Purple have released 7 studios albums in that time, AC/DC 5, The Stones 4, Metallica 6... and Slash himself has released 8. So the evidence is pretty conclusive really. 

Guns N' Roses: Chinese Democracy was from 2008.

The next album is probably going to be mostly, if not all CD2 with Slash and Duff added.

As for CD, I take it you're one of those "It's not a real GN'R record!" person which I can understand, me being a Star Wars fan and not liking Disney's trilogy, but they are still Star Wars movies and whether you like it or not, the next GN'R album will be their seventh studio album, not sixth. 

Hopefully it's a double, so it will be the seventh and eight GN'R studio album. :)

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Maybe they shouldn't hurry things and feel things out for another 6 or 7 seven years. Then they should be comfortable enough to do some serious talking about musical direction, etc. This ain't no Burger King after all, fam!

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3 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

Maybe they shouldn't hurry things and feel things out for another 6 or 7 seven years. Then they should be comfortable enough to do some serious talking about musical direction, etc. This ain't no Burger King after all, fam!

They'd be crazy to think about putting anything out before they start hitting 70 in my opinion.

A minimum of 10 more years touring the same songs is going to be essential at this point.

#TheNextChapter 

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We can talk about 'evidence' all we like, but given all the things we've heard over the years, and all the things that have never happened but been talked about,  absolutely the only 'evidence' I'd accept of a new album now is when it's in my hands.  

Other than that event occuring, there's nothing that could convince me now it's happening. 

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11 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

Maybe they shouldn't hurry things and feel things out for another 6 or 7 seven years. Then they should be comfortable enough to do some serious talking about musical direction, etc. This ain't no Burger King after all, fam!

Guarantee you that when/if the never ending 'NITL' tour resumes people will say "oh they need time to get into the mood of working with each other again, can't expect them to just release something new, as soon as the tour is finished they'll be in the studio and doing new material". 

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3 hours ago, DownUnderScott said:

Better should have been huge. Axl fucked himself by doing no promotion, not releasing the music video for it etc... Big missed opportunity to ensure CD reached maximum ears and kickstart a new wave of followers for GnR. 

Ahh yes - the video. I know it eventually leaked....why was it never released in the end? I remember Lars getting blamed (Fernando?) which turned out to be bullshit. Don’t see why they don’t just fire it up onto their VEVO/YouTube page. 🤷🏼‍♂️

THAT was the song to announce him/the new band to the world.....and it was handled terribly. :facepalm:

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5 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

I'm more interested in an announcement about the UYI boxset. Hope that happens soon.

 

3 hours ago, Atlas19 said:

I would prefer a new album, but think a UYI boxset release happening this year is more realistic

Let's watch as they name the new album Use Your Illusion III and use the 30th anniversary as a marketing push alongside a boxset... lol.

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21 hours ago, Towelie said:

In the time it took GNR to do TSI and CD, Prince made:

Come (1993)

The Gold Experience (1995)

Exodus (1995)

Chaos & Disorder (1996)

Emancipation (1996)

Crystal Ball (1998)

The Truth (1998)

New Power Soul (1998)

Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (1999)

The Chocolate Invasion (2000)

The Slaughterhouse (2000)

The Rainbow Children (2001)

One Nite Alone Piano & Vocal (2002)

N.E.W.S. (2002)

Musicology (2004)

3121 (2006)

Planet Earth (2007)

Lotusflow3r (2008)

MPLSoUND (2008)

20Ten (2010)

Art Official Age (2014)

Plectrum Electrum (2014)

HitNRun Phase One (2015)

HitNRun Phase Two (2015)

 

^^ Two of them are triple albums. He also wrote and produced entire albums for Chaka Khan, Larry Graham, Bria Valente and George Clinton. 

His estate has released more music since his death 5 years ago than GNR have put out in their entire career. 

No artist would win that comparasion with  Prince. His output is second to none, quality- and quantity-wise

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All this talk of double albums is just mental! First point is they are rarely worth it, though there are of exceptions to the rule. Secondly GNR don't appear to release new music. Yet we've got folk talking about releasing a double album in an age where people don't buy CDs. So if, possibly rightly, GNR don't see today's streaming market as being all that profitable to release a single song, then it seems unlikely that a double album will be making its way to our ears any time soon! 

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1 hour ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

I'm Mental. Is there even One personne in this planette who guess that they gonna be touring years and years with the name NITL ?

No you're not. Chinese Democracy World Tour lasted almost 15 years

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On 1/29/2021 at 3:53 PM, DTJ80 said:

Ahh yes - the video. I know it eventually leaked....why was it never released in the end? I remember Lars getting blamed (Fernando?) which turned out to be bullshit. Don’t see why they don’t just fire it up onto their VEVO/YouTube page. 🤷🏼‍♂️

THAT was the song to announce him/the new band to the world.....and it was handled terribly. :facepalm:

By the time they wanted to release the video, two of the guitarists (Robin and Bucket) and a drummer (Brain) were out of the band. And then DJ was announced in March '09. The revolving door of musicians probably contributed to a whole bunch of things not getting released as they would have been "outdated".

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22 minutes ago, Amir said:

By the time they wanted to release the video, two of the guitarists (Robin and Bucket) and a drummer (Brain) were out of the band. And then DJ was announced in March '09. The revolving door of musicians probably contributed to a whole bunch of things not getting released as they would have been "outdated".

 

If the versions that leaked were anything close to the "finished" product I'm not too surprised it was never released... there's some cool shots but also some sloppy editing and the band member intros have a kinda cheesy reality-show type of vibe.

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1 hour ago, Amir said:

By the time they wanted to release the video, two of the guitarists (Robin and Bucket) and a drummer (Brain) were out of the band. And then DJ was announced in March '09. The revolving door of musicians probably contributed to a whole bunch of things not getting released as they would have been "outdated".

Cheers 👍

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21 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

 

Let's watch as they name the new album Use Your Illusion III and use the 30th anniversary as a marketing push alongside a boxset... lol.

I actually suggested this very same thing a lot of pages ago :D

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